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[Miami Hurricane]

Here we go...
1. Star lotulelei 
2. Jarvis jones
3. Manti Teo
4. Keenan Allen
5. Luke joeckel
6. Matt Elam
7. Johnthan Banks

Just kidding here is the  real draft

1. Matt Elam S-
Incredibly athletic, non-stop motor, and always around the ball. He has been a leader on the florida defense since his sophomore season and he plays with an unrivaled fierceness. (that may not be grammatically correct) He punishes anyone that comes in his territory and is a natural and fluid center fielder. The only knocks on him are he is a little undersized and that he drops some passes that should be picks.
2. Ezekiel Ansah DE- or Shariff Floyd DT Florida
Insane athlete came to BYU for track but took up football and has excelled this season. At 6'6'' 270lbs he has ideal size for a DE and with his superb speed and strength his ceiling is ridiculously high although he is very raw with minimal pass rushing moves and some difficulty getting of the ball but with some good coaching he has superstar potential.
3. Bennett Jackson CB- 
Quick, fluid corner with strong coverage skills. A leader in the Irish secondary he was originally recruited as a WR  so he has above average hands and is very shifty on returns (not that we need a return man anymore). At 6'2'' around 185-190lbs he has decent size although he could gain a little muscle and strength to improve on his tackling but has potential to be a very good corner.
4. Seantrel Henderson OT-
Highly rated recruit going into his college career and showed off his potential in his freshman season but suffered a back injury that required surgery and hurt his development substantially but since returning he has taken over at RT but could easily be moved to LT. He is a gifted athlete with prototypical LT size at 6'8" 350lbs. He has enormous potential but has not put things together yet. He drops due to back surgery, lack of production, and character concerns.
5. Marquess Wilson WR-
A top rated receiver coming into the year Wilson broke almost all the washington state receiving records in his college career but has one glaring issue...He is very immature and has some big character concerns after walking out of practice and being suspended/quitting the team. At 6'3" 190lbs he is a tall lanky receiver with good hands and above average speed who can make plays all over the field.
6. Nick Kasa TE- 
Kasa is an underutilized weapon in the pathetic Colorado offense. He possesses big play ability along with prototypical size at 6'5" 265lbs as well as being fairly quick for a man his size. He has displayed good hands on his limited chances this season while averaging over 20 yards per catch.
7. John Boyet/Tyrann Mathieu DB-
At this pick you might as well take 1 of the 2 assuming that 1 of them will be available at this point. They are both incredibly talented playmakers with impressive athletic ability. They are both undersized and have Injury or character concerns respectively.
Criticism and opinions greatly appreciated

Edited by Miami Hurricane, 25 November 2012 - 10:39 AM.

[SecretAgentMan]

Here we go...
1. Star lotulelei 
2. Jarvis jones
3. Manti Teo
4. Keenan Allen
5. Luke joeckel
6. Matt Elam
7. Johnthan Banks

Just kidding here is the  real draft

1. Matt Elam S-
Incredibly athletic, non-stop motor, and always around the ball. He has been a leader on the florida defense since his sophomore season and he plays with an unrivaled fierceness. (that may not be grammatically correct) He punishes anyone that comes in his territory and is a natural and fluid center fielder. The only knocks on him are he is a little undersized and that he drops some passes that should be picks.
2. Ezekiel Ansah DE-
Insane athlete came to BYU for track but took up football and has excelled this season. At 6'6'' 270lbs he has ideal size for a DE and with his superb speed and strength his ceiling is ridiculously high although he is very raw with minimal pass rushing moves and some difficulty getting of the ball but with some good coaching he has superstar potential.
3. Bennett Jackson CB- 
Quick, fluid corner with strong coverage skills. A leader in the Irish secondary he was originally recruited as a WR  so he has above average hands and is very shifty on returns (not that we need a return man anymore). At 6'2'' around 185-190lbs he has decent size although he could gain a little muscle and strength to improve on his tackling but has potential to be a very good corner.
4. Seantrel Henderson OT-
Highly rated recruit going into his college career and showed off his potential in his freshman season but suffered a back injury that required surgery and hurt his development substantially but since returning he has taken over at RT but could easily be moved to LT. He is a gifted athlete with prototypical LT size at 6'8" 350lbs. He has enormous potential but has not put things together yet. He drops due to back surgery, lack of production, and character concerns.
5. Marquess Wilson WR-
A top rated receiver coming into the year Wilson broke almost all the washington state receiving records in his college career but has one glaring issue...He is very immature and has some big character concerns after walking out of practice and being suspended/quitting the team. At 6'3" 190lbs he is a tall lanky receiver with good hands and above average speed who can make plays all over the field.
6. Nick Kasa TE- 
Kasa is an underutilized weapon in the pathetic Colorado offense. He possesses big play ability along with prototypical size at 6'5" 265lbs as well as being fairly quick for a man his size. He has displayed good hands on his limited chances this season while averaging over 20 yards per catch.
7. John Boyet/Tyrann Mathieu DB-
At this pick you might as well take 1 of the 2 assuming that 1 of them will be available at this point. They are both incredibly talented playmakers with impressive athletic ability. They are both undersized and have Injury or character concerns respectively.
Criticism and opinions greatly appreciated

I like everything cept the first round pick... If we want to go this route might I suggest Dion Jordan, or Sylvester Williams? Monsters they will be

[BloodRaven]

I like Ansah's upside but he's definitely a 4-3 type as a pro, a real boom or bust pick. I'm a big fan of Seatrel Henderson and would take him in the second if Aboushi isn't available based on potential alone. Don't know much about CB Jackson other than he's an athlete.

[Miami Hurricane]

I like everything cept the first round pick... If we want to go this route might I suggest Dion Jordan, or Sylvester Williams? Monsters they will be

I like Jordan a lot but I dont think he falls to us and I thought Williams would be a bit of a reach in the first.

[black blood purple passion]

I think Ansah will be the stephen hill of this year. Hill was considered a 4th-5th round pick until he showed up at the combine. Some idiotic team will gamble on his boom potential in the first for sure. The only difference between Ansah and hill is, Ansah actually has some good tape, making his acquisition even less likely.

[Miami Hurricane]

I think Ansah will be the stephen hill of this year. Hill was considered a 4th-5th round pick until he showed up at the combine. Some idiotic team will gamble on his boom potential in the first for sure. The only difference between Ansah and hill is, Ansah actually has some good tape, making his acquisition even less likely.

I could see that but it was a very hopeful mock in terms of players dropping

[dhstandard]

I think Ansah will be the stephen hill of this year. Hill was considered a 4th-5th round pick until he showed up at the combine. Some idiotic team will gamble on his boom potential in the first for sure. The only difference between Ansah and hill is, Ansah actually has some good tape, making his acquisition even less likely.

I think that goes to Margus Hunt. Ansah is a terrible pick. As of right now he is barely a 3rd round pick. He would also probably play OLB in a 3-4 so it would be a waste with the depth we have. I'd go with Margus Hunt as my 2nd round Defensive End.

I like safety in the first round but it's too early to know who will fall to be first round steals. I would go for Sheldon Richardson or hope Jonathon Hankins slides considering what happened to Defensive Ends/Tackles in last years draft.
This leaves a bunch of room for the people who will fall in the 2nd round.

Edited by dhstandard, 24 November 2012 - 02:11 AM.

[Miami Hurricane]

I think that goes to Margus Hunt. Ansah is a terrible pick. As of right now he is barely a 3rd round pick. He would also probably play OLB in a 3-4 so it would be a waste with the depth we have. I'd go with Margus Hunt as my 2nd round Defensive End.

I like safety in the first round but it's too early to know who will fall to be first round steals. I would go for Sheldon Richardson or hope Jonathon Hankins slides considering what happened to Defensive Ends/Tackles in last years draft.
This leaves a bunch of room for the people who will fall in the 2nd round.

why would you go hunt over ansah? Not only is hunt very raw but he's also like 28 and ansah is only like 23.

[Miami Hurricane]

I think that goes to Margus Hunt. Ansah is a terrible pick. As of right now he is barely a 3rd round pick. He would also probably play OLB in a 3-4 so it would be a waste with the depth we have. I'd go with Margus Hunt as my 2nd round Defensive End.

I like safety in the first round but it's too early to know who will fall to be first round steals. I would go for Sheldon Richardson or hope Jonathon Hankins slides considering what happened to Defensive Ends/Tackles in last years draft.
This leaves a bunch of room for the people who will fall in the 2nd round.

and ya I would also take Hankins or Richardson if they fell

[dhstandard]

why would you go hunt over ansah? Not only is hunt very raw but he's also like 28 and ansah is only like 23.

He's only 25 and will turn 26 during training camp. He is very raw but Ansah doesn't have enough talent to take him in the 2nd. I'm not a huge fan of projects but for a defensive end having his natural ability is a major positive considering he can just bullrush tackles and guards. A lot of it may be upside but he is a way better pick than Ansah. Ansah is probably just as raw and would sit behind Upshaw, Kruger, and Suggs.

[GrimCoconut]

Not a bad draft but I'm not very big on Ansah. Also Matt Elam in the 1st? I think he is talented sure and it's possible but right now I don't see it. A lot can change with the Combine, so that's true. Right now I see him as a 2nd or 3rd round prospect. Remember: safeties aren't drafted as high as CBs. Henderson is a good pick in the 4th, but I'm tempted to go elsewhere.

I don't know enough about the other prospects to intelligently comment, lol. So I will say that I like the Matheiu pick since I am a big fan of The Honey Badger in the 7th.

With that, since this is called Mock 2013 I will reply with my own, with only the first few rounds since I don't have a lot of time for long ones.

1st: Louis Nix, NT, Notre Dame: I've done a lot of thinking. I was tempted to say Sheldon Richardson (though he may not even drop this far) I believe a dominant NT makes the entire defense better. I think with a dominant NT like Nix next to Ngata we can have a dominant line. I think it will also elevate McPhee's game & Jones'. I feel comfortable with this pick.

2nd: Oday Aboushi, LT, Virginia Tech: I am reluctant to go with a LT here, but I agree with Arnie--I think he will be that good and I think he will still be here. If he is still here, I got to take him. I would move Oher to LG or back to RT and Osemele to LG. I rather like the idea of having Oher be the LG, though. It's easier to move over one spot than from the right to the left.

3rd: Andrew Jackson, MLB, Western Kentucky: I wanted a successor for Lewis in this draft and I think this is the guy. Jackson is a thumper & playmaker of a ILB and I think he has the instincts to play in the middle. I see his stock rising with the Combine, so I'm picking him in the 3rd. I think he's the 3rd best MLB in the draft behind Te'o & Minter from LSU, whom I also really like.

4th: Brandon Jenkins, OLB, Florida State: he should be a 1st round pick but he's declaring from what I hear. If so you have to take him here if available. Too much upside as a pass rusher. He can be our Paul Kruger. He needs work in run defense but that sounds like Suggs coming out of college. He is injured but so what.

5th: Joe Vellano, DE, Maryland: I like Vellano a lot. He's one of my favorite DEs even if he is 6'1". He is a quality pass rusher at MD and I think he can be a good rotational player on our DL with McPhee & Jones.

Edit: I also want to add another player. I believe we will get a 4th round comp pick at least for Grubbs. With that said, I wanted to add my pick for that spot. I might even move Andrew Jackson down to the 4th round pick & take this guy in the 3rd.
3rd/4th round pick: Robert Lester, S, Alabama: he has had a quiet year, no big plays, but he is a quality safety who is good in coverage and who has good instincts and not long ago was considered a 1st round pick.

Edited by GrimCoconut, 24 November 2012 - 02:06 PM.

[Miami Hurricane]

Not a bad draft but I'm not very big on Ansah. Also Matt Elam in the 1st? I think he is talented sure and it's possible but right now I don't see it. A lot can change with the Combine, so that's true. Right now I see him as a 2nd or 3rd round prospect. Remember: safeties aren't drafted as high as CBs. Henderson is a good pick in the 4th, but I'm tempted to go elsewhere.

I don't know enough about the other prospects to intelligently comment, lol. So I will say that I like the Matheiu pick since I am a big fan of The Honey Badger in the 7th.

With that, since this is called Mock 2013 I will reply with my own, with only the first few rounds since I don't have a lot of time for long ones.

1st: Louis Nix, NT, Notre Dame: I've done a lot of thinking. I was tempted to say Sheldon Richardson (though he may not even drop this far) I believe a dominant NT makes the entire defense better. I think with a dominant NT like Nix next to Ngata we can have a dominant line. I think it will also elevate McPhee's game & Jones'. I feel comfortable with this pick.

2nd: Oday Aboushi, LT, Virginia Tech: I am reluctant to go with a LT here, but I agree with Arnie--I think he will be that good and I think he will still be here. If he is still here, I got to take him. I would move Oher to LG or back to RT and Osemele to LG. I rather like the idea of having Oher be the LG, though. It's easier to move over one spot than from the right to the left.

3rd: Andrew Jackson, MLB, Western Kentucky: I wanted a successor for Lewis in this draft and I think this is the guy. Jackson is a thumper & playmaker of a ILB and I think he has the instincts to play in the middle. I see his stock rising with the Combine, so I'm picking him in the 3rd. I think he's the 3rd best MLB in the draft behind Te'o & Minter from LSU, whom I also really like.

4th: Brandon Jenkins, OLB, Florida State: he should be a 1st round pick but he's declaring from what I hear. If so you have to take him here if available. Too much upside as a pass rusher. He can be our Paul Kruger. He needs work in run defense but that sounds like Suggs coming out of college. He is injured but so what.

5th: Joe Vellano, DE, Maryland: I like Vellano a lot. He's one of my favorite DEs even if he is 6'1". He is a quality pass rusher at MD and I think he can be a good rotational player on our DL with McPhee & Jones.

Edit: I also want to add another player. I believe we will get a 4th round comp pick at least for Grubbs. With that said, I wanted to add my pick for that spot. I might even move Andrew Jackson down to the 4th round pick & take this guy in the 3rd.
3rd/4th round pick: Robert Lester, S, Alabama: he has had a quiet year, no big plays, but he is a quality safety who is good in coverage and who has good instincts and not long ago was considered a 1st round pick.

I like most of those picks but I don't think Aboushi will be there and also I think Brandon Jenkins is incredibly overrated and injury prone. He mostly gets by on effort and hustle rather than technique and athleticism I just don't think he's a very impressive prospect. I also think Elam is the most talented player on the gators D and the most talented Safety in the draft.

[Mt. Crushmore]

Not a bad draft but I'm not very big on Ansah. Also Matt Elam in the 1st? I think he is talented sure and it's possible but right now I don't see it. A lot can change with the Combine, so that's true. Right now I see him as a 2nd or 3rd round prospect. Remember: safeties aren't drafted as high as CBs. Henderson is a good pick in the 4th, but I'm tempted to go elsewhere.

I don't know enough about the other prospects to intelligently comment, lol. So I will say that I like the Matheiu pick since I am a big fan of The Honey Badger in the 7th.

With that, since this is called Mock 2013 I will reply with my own, with only the first few rounds since I don't have a lot of time for long ones.

1st: Louis Nix, NT, Notre Dame: I've done a lot of thinking. I was tempted to say Sheldon Richardson (though he may not even drop this far) I believe a dominant NT makes the entire defense better. I think with a dominant NT like Nix next to Ngata we can have a dominant line. I think it will also elevate McPhee's game & Jones'. I feel comfortable with this pick.

2nd: Oday Aboushi, LT, Virginia Tech: I am reluctant to go with a LT here, but I agree with Arnie--I think he will be that good and I think he will still be here. If he is still here, I got to take him. I would move Oher to LG or back to RT and Osemele to LG. I rather like the idea of having Oher be the LG, though. It's easier to move over one spot than from the right to the left.

3rd: Andrew Jackson, MLB, Western Kentucky: I wanted a successor for Lewis in this draft and I think this is the guy. Jackson is a thumper & playmaker of a ILB and I think he has the instincts to play in the middle. I see his stock rising with the Combine, so I'm picking him in the 3rd. I think he's the 3rd best MLB in the draft behind Te'o & Minter from LSU, whom I also really like.

4th: Brandon Jenkins, OLB, Florida State: he should be a 1st round pick but he's declaring from what I hear. If so you have to take him here if available. Too much upside as a pass rusher. He can be our Paul Kruger. He needs work in run defense but that sounds like Suggs coming out of college. He is injured but so what.

5th: Joe Vellano, DE, Maryland: I like Vellano a lot. He's one of my favorite DEs even if he is 6'1". He is a quality pass rusher at MD and I think he can be a good rotational player on our DL with McPhee & Jones.

Edit: I also want to add another player. I believe we will get a 4th round comp pick at least for Grubbs. With that said, I wanted to add my pick for that spot. I might even move Andrew Jackson down to the 4th round pick & take this guy in the 3rd.
3rd/4th round pick: Robert Lester, S, Alabama: he has had a quiet year, no big plays, but he is a quality safety who is good in coverage and who has good instincts and not long ago was considered a 1st round pick.

If that really happened I think I would wet myself.

[Miami Hurricane]

He's only 25 and will turn 26 during training camp. He is very raw but Ansah doesn't have enough talent to take him in the 2nd. I'm not a huge fan of projects but for a defensive end having his natural ability is a major positive considering he can just bullrush tackles and guards. A lot of it may be upside but he is a way better pick than Ansah. Ansah is probably just as raw and would sit behind Upshaw, Kruger, and Suggs.

it's really just a personal preference between the two since they are both very raw physical freaks.

[GrimCoconut]

I like most of those picks but I don't think Aboushi will be there and also I think Brandon Jenkins is incredibly overrated and injury prone. He mostly gets by on effort and hustle rather than technique and athleticism I just don't think he's a very impressive prospect. I also think Elam is the most talented player on the gators D and the most talented Safety in the draft.

Really, you don't think so? I would have agreed but you have the likes of Luke Joeckel, Jake Matthews, Taylor Lewan, I just don't know. OT is a tricky place to predict people to fall. Remember Mike Adams & even Martin? Granted, there was a lot going on with them but I can honestly see Matthews, Lewan, and Aboushi all being low 1st to low 2nd round picks. It really depends on their Combine. I think right now Aboushi is about a 2nd round pick.

I agree regarding Elam; I think he would be a major addition to the Ravens. I would love to have him, and if we can't get Aboushi in the 2nd then I would go with Elam if available. Remember: safeties normally don't go high, it's very rare they do. Elam could go high, but then again may not.

As for Jenkins: I disagree here. I see him more like Suggs coming out. He's a Rush LB that needs to work on his run support. I think he has a good variety of moves for a guy coming out of college.

[JO_75]

Not bad, but I would replace Matt Elam with Alec Ogletree in the first round for our pick. I don't think Safety is a big need unless Ed Reed retires but other wise I would go with Ogletree or Jonathon Cooper in the first.

[Miami Hurricane]

Really, you don't think so? I would have agreed but you have the likes of Luke Joeckel, Jake Matthews, Taylor Lewan, I just don't know. OT is a tricky place to predict people to fall. Remember Mike Adams & even Martin? Granted, there was a lot going on with them but I can honestly see Matthews, Lewan, and Aboushi all being low 1st to low 2nd round picks. It really depends on their Combine. I think right now Aboushi is about a 2nd round pick.

I agree regarding Elam; I think he would be a major addition to the Ravens. I would love to have him, and if we can't get Aboushi in the 2nd then I would go with Elam if available. Remember: safeties normally don't go high, it's very rare they do. Elam could go high, but then again may not.

As for Jenkins: I disagree here. I see him more like Suggs coming out. He's a Rush LB that needs to work on his run support. I think he has a good variety of moves for a guy coming out of college.

I just think Aboushi is too good to fall all the way to the bottom of the second but I guess you never know and if he did I would for sure take him. And with the Matt Elam in the first I just think about where Barron went so I didnt think he would fall to the second.

[Miami Hurricane]

Not bad, but I would replace Matt Elam with Alec Ogletree in the first round for our pick. I don't think Safety is a big need unless Ed Reed retires but other wise I would go with Ogletree or Jonathon Cooper in the first.

I just didn't see Ogletree as a first round prospect I saw him more as a mid second.