Merged: Comments on Cam and the Offense-Week 11

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='callahan09' timestamp='1353450287' post='1227541']
I wanted to look into our third or fourth downs with <= 2 yards to go situations, and here's what I found:

Flacco has a 0.0 QB Rating on 12 such downs. 3 / 11 for 7 yards, 0 TD, 2 INT, 1 Sack for -3 yards. Only 2 first downs. That means 16.7% success rate.

On the other hand, with run plays, we have 18 attempts for 47 yards, 3 TD, 0 Fumbles. 12 first downs. That's a 66.7% success rate.

Just as a fun little comparison, I am going to convert those rushing numbers into a passer's stat line. So, runs that went for positive yardage count as a completion and an attempt, runs that went for no gain count as an attempt and an incompletion, and runs that went for a loss count as a sack (not counted in attempts, yardage counted separately as well).

So, there were 2 attempts for no gain, 3 for a loss of yardage. Therefore the stat line would look like this in passer terms:

118.8 QB Rating on 18 such downs. 13 / 15, 43 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT, 3 Sacks for -4 yards. 12 first downs for a 66.7% conversion rate.

Compare that to Flacco's actual passer statline, and you can see how clearly better we are at running on those downs versus passing.

Remind me again why we ever pass in those situations?
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I wonder how many of those 3rd and short passes were 20+ yard bombs rather than short passes just trying to make the first down.

[DocMartin]

[quote name='callahan09' timestamp='1353450287' post='1227541']
I wanted to look into our third or fourth downs with <= 2 yards to go situations, and here's what I found:

Flacco has a 0.0 QB Rating on 12 such downs. 3 / 11 for 7 yards, 0 TD, 2 INT, 1 Sack for -3 yards. Only 2 first downs. That means 16.7% success rate.

On the other hand, with run plays, we have 18 attempts for 47 yards, 3 TD, 0 Fumbles. 12 first downs. That's a 66.7% success rate.

Just as a fun little comparison, I am going to convert those rushing numbers into a passer's stat line. So, runs that went for positive yardage count as a completion and an attempt, runs that went for no gain count as an attempt and an incompletion, and runs that went for a loss count as a sack (not counted in attempts, yardage counted separately as well).

So, there were 2 attempts for no gain, 3 for a loss of yardage. Therefore the stat line would look like this in passer terms:

118.8 QB Rating on 18 such downs. 13 / 15, 43 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT, 3 Sacks for -4 yards. 12 first downs for a 66.7% conversion rate.

Compare that to Flacco's actual passer statline, and you can see how clearly better we are at running on those downs versus passing.

Remind me again why we ever pass in those situations?
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Excellent post. And why do we pass there? Cam likes the idea of long bomb pass, even if it works 1 time out of 10, rather than good hard run for 1st down. If Flacco would just fall forward at the line of scrimmage and extend his arm, he would probably get 2 yards, but that might be too easy for Cam, who likes to throw it and hope someohe catches it.

[flaccopoe]

The ONE offensive mind worse than Cam Cameron: Russ Grimm, offensive-line coach for the Cardinals. He's almost sigle-handedly responsible for AZ's collapse after the team went 4-0.

[flaccopoe]

[quote name='DocMartin' timestamp='1353358959' post='1226326']
THANKS TO OUR DEFENSE & SPECIAL TEAMS FOR GREAT WIN AGAINST THE STEELERS. And for Cam Cameron we have special Thank You called LET'S MOVE CAM UPSTAIRS BANDWAGON. And here are the reasons why:
1) As a good game planner Cam is, he needs to realize opposing teams make game time adjustments, while he is not adjusting and running the same plays over and over with same personnel. Everyone in the whole stadium knows what play is coming. Worse than Predictable.
2) Joe Flacco is not a robot, he doesn't need to be programmed, he could call the audible or timeout.
3) Cam's nightmare - 3rd down & 2, Rice is nice, but we have Leach & Pierce too, use them.
4) 3rd down non-coversions - when we need 7 yds, Cam calls play for 5, when we need 5 yds Cam calls play for 2 or 3, and when we need 2 yds, we go incomplete or backwards. Maybe he can't see it from his angle.
5) Better view from upstairs, could still call plays, sometimes. Im sure Caldwell can take care of Flacco downstairs, if needed.
Since we have moved DC Dan Peas upstairs, our Defense got much better, so I expect the same result with moving Cam up there as well.
Get more fresh air for Cam, Join LET'S MOVE CAM UPSTAIRS BANDWAGON !
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Cam certainly couldn't get any worse...

[Ravenslifer]

BTW, I don't know if anyone has already mentioned it, but I would say the games where the offense was shut down the worst the last 2 seasons were our 3 meetings with the Houston Texans. The Houston Texans' D-coordinator is Wade Philips, not only acknowledged as one of the better D-coordinators in the league, but remember he and Cam were both part of Marty Schottenheimer's staff on the Chargers. I really think a lot of our struggles against Houston have to do with the fact that Wade knows Cam well, and while Wade can adjust, Cam can't.

[DocMartin]

First half against San Diego and our High Power Offense has 0 points. Total offense - 66 yards. Same old crap playcalling by Offensive Genius Cam Cameron. When Enough is Enough?

[BirdWatcher]

The week 12 thread is now open.