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[flaccopoe]

i'm proud that Flacco didn't do anything stupid against the #1 defense. Thanks to his poise, the Steelers' D couldn't bail Leftwich out. A great QB can dodge sacks and knows when to throw the ball away.

Edited by flaccopoe, 19 November 2012 - 01:31 AM.

[bauer77]

I havent posted here in a long time, but I'm going to give the same rant as I just did on Twitter. We just won the freaking game. We WON. And we have won consistently for 4 and a half years now with Flacco as our quarterback. Our defense factors in, but we are 8-2. Is that not getting into some people's heads? Some of you literally act like you would rather have Grbac, Boller, Banks, Wright (list goes on) as our quarterback. Flacco is infinitely better than all of them but half of this fanbase still complains. I didn't know we were so spoiled with even DECENT QBs in the past to be complaining about Joe. He wasn't great tonight, maybe not even good. But he managed the game, didnt make any mistakes, and WON. His numbers weren't terrible. He made some bad throws, but he did enough to win. Some of you either need to get a serious reality check or just turn in your fan cards. The ignorance and stupidity of anyone who thinks Flacco sucks/should be released just amazes me. Flacco can and will lead us to the Super Bowl, and soon. So enjoy it while it lasts.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[awholelottahaloti]

If we had aaron Rodgers, and he put up these stats during this game would you complain

Do you think Aaron Rodgers would be as good with cam was calling his plays? Or do you think he would excel every time while playing the #1 D in their house?

No, I wouldn't complain because we would be 8 and 2, leading the AFC North, just beat the NFL's #1 D in their house and started a tough stretch of games with a win. And our QB didn't turn the ball over.

[SirPainsalot]

i can't believe out of a win, some of you guys complain about Flacco against the Steelers defense.

Lemme spell it out for you.

THE STEELERS' PASS DEFENSE IS STATISTICALLY NUMBER ONE IN THE NFL

Not only that, Cam could NOT adjust to the defensive plays and decided to go conservative with the lead.

Not to mention shotgun on third and 2 goes without saying to be a bad call all around.

I bet you that if the Steelers was in the lead up by four, Flacco, without restrictions since they're in the lead, would've had the same performance from last year. A clutch drive downfield for a touchdown.

[SecretAgentMan]

i can't believe out of a win, some of you guys complain about Flacco against the Steelers defense.

Lemme spell it out for you.

THE STEELERS' PASS DEFENSE IS STATISTICALLY NUMBER ONE IN THE NFL

Not only that, Cam could NOT adjust to the defensive plays and decided to go conservative with the lead.

Not to mention shotgun on third and 2 goes without saying to be a bad call all around.

I bet you that if the Steelers was in the lead up by four, Flacco, without restrictions since they're in the lead, would've had the same performance from last year. A clutch drive downfield for a touchdown.

This....

[sflegend89]

If the season rests in Joes hand we will lose. Hes proven to choke when the team needs him most. The Ravens have always been a team that finds a way to win. Joe is just not good enough right now to carry anything and Cam is always there to make sure he won't either.

Joe choke when the team needs him most? Did he not orchestrate a brilliant and pin point accurate drive to beat Pitt with Big Ben @ heinz last year? Or how about the perfect ball for Lee Evans that would've put us in the SB. Joe put the ball where it needed to be with the game on the line, in my eyes he got us to the SB last year. He outplayed Brady in Foxboro in the AFCC. He may not be consistent but if anything he's clutch. He didn't turn the ball over at all tonight and in a defensive battle the team that wins the turnover margin usually wins the game. Flacco knows he could've played better but at the end of the day we got the W. .

[kassaiscool]

Joe choke when the team needs him most? Did he not orchestrate a brilliant and pin point accurate drive to beat Pitt with Big Ben @ heinz last year? Or how about the perfect ball for Lee Evans that would've put us in the SB. Joe put the ball where it needed to be with the game on the line, in my eyes he got us to the SB last year. He outplayed Brady in Foxboro in the AFCC. He may not be consistent but if anything he's clutch. He didn't turn the ball over at all tonight and in a defensive battle the team that wins the turnover margin usually wins the game. Flacco knows he could've played better but at the end of the day we got the W. .

Its sad because everyone knows when Joe is clutch, because it doesn't happen often. The ravens have went to the playoffs 4 years straight and 4 years in a row they went home. Plain and simple he doesn't get it done and Cam has some to do with it. He outplayed Tom brady because brady was going against our 3rd ranked defense, while the patriots defense was among the worst if not the worst defense last season. Even Mark Sanchez throws for over 300 yards against them..

Edited by kassaiscool, 19 November 2012 - 02:18 AM.

[sflegend89]

Its sad because everyone knows when Joe is clutch, because it doesn't happen often. The ravens have went to the playoffs 4 years straight and 4 years in a row they went home. Plain and simple he doesn't get it done and Cam has some to do with it. He outplayed Tom brady because brady was going against our 3rd ranked defense, while the patriots defense was among the worst if not the worst defense last season. Even Mark Sanchez throws for over 300 yards against them..

This isn't Fantasy Football guy, I don't care how many yards Mark Sanchez or any QB for that matter throws for. Stuff like passing yards is dependent on the offensive system/flow of the game and the Jets don't have a running game like we do so you can't even compare the two offenses. Plus your counting Joe going to the AFCC game as a rookie against him? lol That's 100x more then we could have ever asked for when he stepped in as our starter as a rookie with a rookie HC.

You play to win the game. period. Earlier this year the offense has picked up the slack when the D wasn't playing well. Tonight it was the other way around, that's football. How are you gonna ignore the fact that Joe put the SB ball right on the money and Lee Evans just didn't secure the ball. Joe didn't miss that FG and miss out on a chance in OT or drop a perfectly catchable TD. It's a team game, you lose as a team and win as a team. Just because our team has lost in the playoffs doesn't mean Joe Flacco isn't a SB caliber QB.

If you don't believe in Joe or the team feel free to hop off the bandwagon. I'm gonna stand by my team and my QB because I know what we're capable of as a team. Once the playoffs start all bets are off, who's playing the best football in january.. could be anyone at this point. Why not us?

Edited by sflegend89, 19 November 2012 - 02:55 AM.

[kassaiscool]

This isn't Fantasy Football guy, I don't care how many yards Mark Sanchez or any QB for that matter throws for. Stuff like passing yards is dependent on the offensive system/flow of the game and the Jets don't have a running game like we do so you can't even compare the two offenses. Plus your counting Joe going to the AFCC game as a rookie against him? lol That's 100x more then we could have ever asked for when he stepped in as our starter as a rookie with a rookie HC.

You play to win the game. period. Earlier this year the offense has picked up the slack when the D wasn't playing well. Tonight it was the other way around, that's football. How are you gonna ignore the fact that Joe put the SB ball right on the money and Lee Evans just didn't secure the ball. Joe didn't miss that FG and miss out on a chance in OT or drop a perfectly catchable TD. It's a team game, you lose as a team and win as a team. Just because our team has lost in the playoffs doesn't mean Joe Flacco isn't a SB caliber QB.

If you don't believe in Joe or the team feel free to hop off the bandwagon. I'm gonna stand by my team and my QB because I know what we're capable of as a team. Once the playoffs start all bets are off, who's playing the best football in january.. could be anyone at this point. Why not us?

.1 About Mark sanchez and their offense, they are not very good. My point is if they are able to throw for 300 yards on the patriots defense and every other team it waters down that accomplishment for Joe.

.2 am counting his rookie playoff lost against him? Yep I am, although I don't expect a super bowl in his rookie season doesn't mean he isn't wasting a opportunity. Big Ben won a super bowl in his rookie year..

.3 I give Joe credit for playing well all the time, but I am also not blind to his short comings. The fact that we played in New england in the playoffs had a lot to with Joe stinking it up in Jacksonville. If we won that game, New England would have had to come down to Bmore. Different ball game if they had to travel here.

.4 As far as being a bandwagon fan, I've been a ravens fan since I was 10 years old. I know a lot about the team and they will always be my team no matter what.

Edited by kassaiscool, 19 November 2012 - 03:32 AM.

[ArmyRavensFan]

Its sad because everyone knows when Joe is clutch, because it doesn't happen often. The ravens have went to the playoffs 4 years straight and 4 years in a row they went home. Plain and simple he doesn't get it done and Cam has some to do with it. He outplayed Tom brady because brady was going against our 3rd ranked defense, while the patriots defense was among the worst if not the worst defense last season. Even Mark Sanchez throws for over 300 yards against them..

While I do not think the offense had a good game by any means, to include Joe, your argument just gave Joe a reason for not playing well. Brady went against the 3rd ranked Defense, Joe just went against the number one ranked defense.

Also, this is the NFL. Every team is great and home field matters. Houston, one of the best teams in the league just allowed the Jaguars to put up 37 points and made Chad Henne look All Pro, while Matt Ryan, one of the best QBs statistically this year just threw 5 picks.

[ThePurpleWall]

.1 About Mark sanchez and their offense, they are not very good. My point is if they are able to throw for 300 yards on the patriots defense and every other team it waters down that accomplishment for Joe.

.2 am counting his rookie playoff lost against him? Yep I am, although I don't expect a super bowl in his rookie season doesn't mean he isn't wasting a opportunity. Big Ben won a super bowl in his rookie year..

.3 I give Joe credit for playing well all the time, but I am also not blind to his short comings. The fact that we played in New england in the playoffs had a lot to with Joe stinking it up in Jacksonville. If we won that game, New England would have had to come down to Bmore. Different ball game if they had to travel here.

.4 As far as being a bandwagon fan, I've been a ravens fan since I was 10 years old. I know a lot about the team and they will always be my team no matter what.

that was last year,this is this year,neg you like to be always negative like ratedr guy,i doubt it,ravens have been here since 96,you think your a fan of the ravens like most,but you really arnt,if you were,you wouldnt be so negative.

Edited by ThePurpleWall, 19 November 2012 - 06:29 AM.

[kassaiscool]

that was last year,this is this year,neg you like to be always negative like ratedr guy,i doubt it,ravens have been here since 96,you think your a fan of the ravens like most,but you really arnt,if you were,you wouldnt be so negative.

So I guess I'm just a huge steeler troll who comes on this message board to start fights.. Go look at the topics I made about this upcoming season and how accurate I was. I called the Texans the best team in the afc which they seem to be, I called our secondary somewhat overrated which they seem to be, and I said Joe flacco wasn't elite which many people would agree with me as of right now. About Joe he still has a chance to be an elite qb, but the facts right now is he isn't. Instead of negative I called that being honest and accurate. oh yea btw I started watching the Ravens when I was 10 years old beginning around the 2000 season up to now.

Edited by kassaiscool, 19 November 2012 - 07:22 AM.

[1/28/01]

Did you just witness how this offense couldn't get a first down to seal the game for the defense? We all know if Ben was playing he would have marched right down the field and scored. Also about the last two times Flacco came back in pitt, how about in the playoffs? 0-2 with leads. My question to is, do you think hes elite?

No, I dont. Thats not what it being discussed here. 0-2 with leads? Which games?

[1/28/01]

.2 am counting his rookie playoff lost against him? Yep I am, although I don't expect a super bowl in his rookie season doesn't mean he isn't wasting a opportunity. Big Ben won a super bowl in his rookie year..

Do you just like making stuff up or what?

[MTRavensFan]

Joe choke when the team needs him most? Did he not orchestrate a brilliant and pin point accurate drive to beat Pitt with Big Ben @ heinz last year? Or how about the perfect ball for Lee Evans that would've put us in the SB. Joe put the ball where it needed to be with the game on the line, in my eyes he got us to the SB last year. He outplayed Brady in Foxboro in the AFCC. He may not be consistent but if anything he's clutch. He didn't turn the ball over at all tonight and in a defensive battle the team that wins the turnover margin usually wins the game. Flacco knows he could've played better but at the end of the day we got the W. .

And this.
And when was the last time Joe threw Five - FIVE! interceptions in a game? You think they're calling to bench Ryan in Atlanta?

[kassaiscool]

Do you just like making stuff up or what?

oh yea it was his second season my bad. /end discussion all I have to say is in this thread

[jaege]

i can't believe out of a win, some of you guys complain about Flacco against the Steelers defense.

Lemme spell it out for you.

THE STEELERS' PASS DEFENSE IS STATISTICALLY NUMBER ONE IN THE NFL

Not only that, Cam could NOT adjust to the defensive plays and decided to go conservative with the lead.

Not to mention shotgun on third and 2 goes without saying to be a bad call all around.

I bet you that if the Steelers was in the lead up by four, Flacco, without restrictions since they're in the lead, would've had the same performance from last year. A clutch drive downfield for a touchdown.

I am NOT a Flacco basher by any stretch. Still statistics are meaningless. The Steelers are statistically this or that. So? They can be and have been beaten. They have had nearly as many yards put on them per game as us, who are statistically one of the worst defenses. I also am a fierce proponent of the "time for Cam to go" group. Still, we cannot blame everything on Cam forever.

I think the thing that irks many fans is Joe's assertion that he is already "elite" and one of the top 5 QBs, then he cannot back it up. Sounds like misplaced arrogance or the mouthing off from some punk kid. I never hear Brady or Rodgers making those claims. Even Peyton remains humble and mature when questioned about his skills or his teams successes. Even if you are elite, it is a bit tasteless to make those claims, but to make them and not perform, can leave a bitter taste in some fan's mouths. Then considering his inconsistent performance, its a hard pill to swallow.

Now on the other hand, he has won more games than any other QB is his first four seasons. He has beaten the best of the best. He has helped his team go to the playoffs 4 times in a row (so far). He has shown he can beat any and all opponents no matter what sort of reputation they have. He has played some damn fine football even while being yoked by a knucklehead like Cam. Bragging aside, he does a pretty good job for the Ravens. That cannot be disputed.

All this nonsense of "he will never take us to a SB". Come on, Dilfer won a SB. If he can do it anyone can.

[berad]

LOl its called being humble and smart. Find me a clip of Peyton Manning saying hes Elite or any others like brees or A-rod. Eli said he was Elite after already winning a superbowl, and then he went out on the field and backed it up with another super bowl. Once you proclaim to be the best or one of the best you put a bullseye on your back. It would have been better off for him to go to the humble route, ESPECIALLY when hes really not elite.

Manning said, before he was drafted, that if the Colts didn't pick him he would whoop them for 15 years... A little bit more inflammatory than what Flacco said.

What Joe Flacco said in an interview during the summer had/has no influence on how he plays.

[kassaiscool]

Manning said, before he was drafted, that if the Colts didn't pick him he would whoop them for 15 years... A little bit more inflammatory than what Flacco said.

What Joe Flacco said in an interview during the summer had/has no influence on how he plays.

He said that privately to the colts. Obviously you don't say that to a stranger, the colts and Manning probably got close during the draft process. My question to you is, where is the video of Peyton calling himself Elite? their are plenty of videos of Joe saying it.

Edited by kassaiscool, 19 November 2012 - 10:41 AM.

[Ed_Reed20]

He said that privately to the colts. Obviously you don't say that to a stranger, the colts and Manning probably got close during the draft process. My question to you is, where is the video of Peyton calling himself Elite? their are plenty of videos of Joe saying it.

Can you post one of them?