The Season Rests in the hands of #5

[ThePurpleWall]

[quote name='kassaiscool' timestamp='1353313890' post='1225729']
.1 About Mark sanchez and their offense, they are not very good. My point is if they are able to throw for 300 yards on the patriots defense and every other team it waters down that accomplishment for Joe.

.2 am counting his rookie playoff lost against him? Yep I am, although I don't expect a super bowl in his rookie season doesn't mean he isn't wasting a opportunity. Big Ben won a super bowl in his rookie year..

.3 [b]I give Joe credit for playing well all the time, but I am also not blind to his short comings. The fact that we played in New england in the playoffs had a lot to with Joe stinking it up in Jacksonville. If we won that game, New England would have had to come down to Bmore. Different ball game if they had to travel here.[/b]

[b].4 As far as being a bandwagon fan, I've been a ravens fan since I was 10 years old. I know a lot about the team and they will always be my team no matter what.[/b]
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that was last year,this is this year,neg you like to be always negative like ratedr guy,i doubt it,ravens have been here since 96,you think your a fan of the ravens like most,but you really arnt,if you were,you wouldnt be so negative.

[kassaiscool]

[quote name='ThePurpleWall' timestamp='1353323799' post='1225749']
that was last year,this is this year,neg you like to be always negative like ratedr guy,i doubt it,ravens have been here since 96,you think your a fan of the ravens like most,but you really arnt,if you were,you wouldnt be so negative.
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So I guess I'm just a huge steeler troll who comes on this message board to start fights.. Go look at the topics I made about this upcoming season and how accurate I was. I called the Texans the best team in the afc which they seem to be, I called our secondary somewhat overrated which they seem to be, and I said Joe flacco wasn't elite which many people would agree with me as of right now. About Joe he still has a chance to be an elite qb, but the facts right now is he isn't. Instead of negative I called that being honest and accurate. oh yea btw I started watching the Ravens when I was 10 years old beginning around the 2000 season up to now.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='kassaiscool' timestamp='1353303901' post='1225575']


Did you just witness how this offense couldn't get a first down to seal the game for the defense? We all know if Ben was playing he would have marched right down the field and scored. Also about the last two times Flacco came back in pitt, how about in the playoffs? 0-2 with leads. [B]My question to is, do you think hes elite?[/b]
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No, I dont. Thats not what it being discussed here. 0-2 with leads? Which games?

[1/28/01]

[quote name='kassaiscool' timestamp='1353313890' post='1225729']
.2 am counting his rookie playoff lost against him? Yep I am, although I don't expect a super bowl in his rookie season doesn't mean he isn't wasting a opportunity. [B]Big Ben won a super bowl in his rookie year..[/b]
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Do you just like making stuff up or what?

[MTRavensFan]

[quote name='sflegend89' timestamp='1353308162' post='1225698']
Joe choke when the team needs him most? Did he not orchestrate a brilliant and pin point accurate drive to beat Pitt with Big Ben @ heinz last year? Or how about the perfect ball for Lee Evans that would've put us in the SB. Joe put the ball where it needed to be with the game on the line, in my eyes he got us to the SB last year. He outplayed Brady in Foxboro in the AFCC. He may not be consistent but if anything he's clutch. He didn't turn the ball over at all tonight and in a defensive battle the team that wins the turnover margin usually wins the game. Flacco knows he could've played better but at the end of the day we got the W. .
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And this.
And when was the last time Joe threw Five - FIVE! interceptions in a game? You think they're calling to bench Ryan in Atlanta?

[kassaiscool]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1353328545' post='1225772']
Do you just like making stuff up or what?
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oh yea it was his second season my bad. /end discussion all I have to say is in this thread

[jaege]

[quote name='SirPainsalot' timestamp='1353307266' post='1225678']
i can't believe out of a win, some of you guys complain about Flacco against the Steelers defense.

Lemme spell it out for you.

[b]THE STEELERS' PASS DEFENSE IS STATISTICALLY NUMBER ONE IN THE NFL[/b]

Not only that, Cam could NOT adjust to the defensive plays and decided to go conservative with the lead.

Not to mention shotgun on third and 2 goes without saying to be a bad call all around.

I bet you that if the Steelers was in the lead up by four, Flacco, without restrictions since they're in the lead, would've had the same performance from last year. A clutch drive downfield for a touchdown.
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I am NOT a Flacco basher by any stretch. Still statistics are meaningless. The Steelers are statistically this or that. So? They can be and have been beaten. They have had nearly as many yards put on them per game as us, who are [u]statistically[/u] one of the worst defenses. I also am a fierce proponent of the "time for Cam to go" group. Still, we cannot blame everything on Cam forever.

I think the thing that irks many fans is Joe's assertion that he is already "elite" and one of the top 5 QBs, then he cannot back it up. Sounds like misplaced arrogance or the mouthing off from some punk kid. I never hear Brady or Rodgers making those claims. Even Peyton remains humble and mature when questioned about his skills or his teams successes. Even if you are elite, it is a bit tasteless to make those claims, but to make them and not perform, can leave a bitter taste in some fan's mouths. Then considering his inconsistent performance, its a hard pill to swallow.

Now on the other hand, he has won more games than any other QB is his first four seasons. He has beaten the best of the best. He has helped his team go to the playoffs 4 times in a row (so far). He has shown he can beat any and all opponents no matter what sort of reputation they have. He has played some damn fine football even while being yoked by a knucklehead like Cam. Bragging aside, he does a pretty good job for the Ravens. That cannot be disputed.

All this nonsense of "he will never take us to a SB". Come on, Dilfer won a SB. If he can do it anyone can.

[berad]

[quote name='kassaiscool' timestamp='1353306055' post='1225658']
LOl its called being humble and smart. [b]Find me a clip of Peyton Manning saying hes Elite[/b] or any others like brees or A-rod. Eli said he was Elite after already winning a superbowl, and then he went out on the field and backed it up with another super bowl. Once you proclaim to be the best or one of the best you put a bullseye on your back. It would have been better off for him to go to the humble route, ESPECIALLY when hes really not elite.
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Manning said, before he was drafted, that if the Colts didn't pick him he would whoop them for 15 years... A little bit more inflammatory than what Flacco said.

What Joe Flacco said in an interview during the summer had/has no influence on how he plays.

[kassaiscool]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1353333816' post='1225851']
Manning said, before he was drafted, that if the Colts didn't pick him he would whoop them for 15 years... A little bit more inflammatory than what Flacco said.

What Joe Flacco said in an interview during the summer had/has no influence on how he plays.
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He said that privately to the colts. Obviously you don't say that to a stranger, the colts and Manning probably got close during the draft process. My question to you is, where is the video of Peyton calling himself Elite? their are plenty of videos of Joe saying it.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='kassaiscool' timestamp='1353339661' post='1225950']
He said that privately to the colts. Obviously you don't say that to a stranger, the colts and Manning probably got close during the draft process. My question to you is, where is the video of Peyton calling himself Elite? [b]their are plenty of videos of Joe saying it.[/b]
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Can you post one of them?

[ravens88]

look Joe played mistake free football exactly what we needed to win. with a crappy run game i thought joe made plays where he could a few times he missed throws or didnt see the open guy but on the road against the number 1 d i thought he played exactly how we needed him to. He didnt go above and beyond but he got the job done. no one i think can use that elite word with Joe hopefully in the next 5 years we can but right now he is winning games by playing effectively and i wont complain about that.

[kassaiscool]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1353340079' post='1225960']
Can you post one of them?
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google it, i'm sure you will find it.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='kassaiscool' timestamp='1353341357' post='1225985']
google it, i'm sure you will find it.
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No, I won't, because those videos don't exist.

Beyond his off-season quote about [url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/03/joe-flacco-thinks-hes-the-best-quarterback-in-football/"]considering himself the best QB in the league[/url] and a quote about considering himself "elite" I vaguely remember being brought up prior to the Texans game in 2010, I don't remember Joe ever calling himself "elite" on video.

[Tank 92]

[quote name='kassaiscool' timestamp='1353339661' post='1225950']


He said that privately to the colts. Obviously you don't say that to a stranger, the colts and Manning probably got close during the draft process. My question to you is, where is the video of Peyton calling himself Elite? their are plenty of videos of Joe saying it.
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I thought you said you were done in this thread? You should stop because the more of this nonsense you post the more misinformed you sound.

[kassaiscool]

[quote name='awholelottahaloti' timestamp='1353342075' post='1226003']
I thought you said you were done in this thread? You should stop because the more of this nonsense you post the more misinformed you sound.
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like what? Saying the Texans were better than us this season, or was it when I claimed the secondary is overrated? Also what is your opinion on the ravens if everything I post is nonsense?

[rlh445]

[quote name='kassaiscool' timestamp='1353342636' post='1226020']
like what? Saying the Texans were better than us this season, or was it when I claimed the secondary is overrated? Also what is your opinion on the ravens if everything I post is nonsense?
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[img]http://www.krackblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/cmonson.gif[/img]

Our secondary isn't overrated at all..in fact I don't think anyone has even taken the time to rate them .

[nk02442]

[quote name='sflegend89' timestamp='1353308162' post='1225698']
Joe choke when the team needs him most? Did he not orchestrate a brilliant and pin point accurate drive to beat Pitt with Big Ben @ heinz last year? Or how about the perfect ball for Lee Evans that would've put us in the SB. Joe put the ball where it needed to be with the game on the line, in my eyes he got us to the SB last year. He outplayed Brady in Foxboro in the AFCC. He may not be consistent but if anything he's clutch. He didn't turn the ball over at all tonight and in a defensive battle the team that wins the turnover margin usually wins the game. Flacco knows he could've played better but at the end of the day we got the W. .
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God I hate ignorant statements like this. HE DID NOT OUTPLAY BRADY.

He played well against the worst defense in the league.
Brady Played good against one of the best defenses in the leage.


Had Brady Been playing against his own Defense, he would have Blown it up. Not even close.

[rlh445]

[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1353342905' post='1226025']
God I hate ignorant statements like this. HE DID NOT OUTPLAY BRADY.

He played well against the worst defense in the league.
Brady Played good against one of the best defenses in the leage.


Had Brady Been playing against his own Defense, he would have Blown it up. Not even close.
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Oh, so defensive quality is what we use to determine quarterback play now? THAT is the ignorant statement, sir. Flacco has put up comparable numbers to the ones he put up in the AFCCG against the Patsies against the #1 defense in the league in the Steelers AT THEIR HOUSE, so don't gimme that guff.

Flacco 61.1 Completion Percentage 306 yards 2 TDs 1 Int
Brady 61.1 Completion Percentage 239 yards 0 TDs 2 Int - Both of which were bad decisions.

Verdict: Outplayed. Even Patriots fans agreed and were dogging Brady all night.

[kassaiscool]

[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1353342905' post='1226025']
God I hate ignorant statements like this. HE DID NOT OUTPLAY BRADY.

He played well against the worst defense in the league.
Brady Played good against one of the best defenses in the leage.


Had Brady Been playing against his own Defense, he would have Blown it up. Not even close.
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NO NO NO you can't take this game away from joe! This is one of Joes best playoff games ever.. Please don't bring up how bad the patriots defense is because that will only show how favorable of match up that was for him. (sarcasm)

[Tank 92]

[quote name='kassaiscool' timestamp='1353342636' post='1226020']


like what? Saying the Texans were better than us this season, or was it when I claimed the secondary is overrated? Also what is your opinion on the ravens if everything I post is nonsense?
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Just stop dude!

The Texans have had a good run so far and smoked us in a perfect storm for them. Better than us? I don't think one game proves that. They looked like losers yesterday at home against a bottom tier team and were fortunate to get the W.

The secondary? Overrated by whom? They are what they are and losing Webb hasn't helped the chemistry. I think come January they will be fine.

My opinion on the Ravens is that we are 8 and 2 , lead the AFC North and still have a shot at the #1 seed. Are we the "perfect team" yet? No. Still a work in progress, especially offensive communication on the road and defensive execution. And I also think Joe is a top 5 QB in this league. Period.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1353342905' post='1226025']
God I hate ignorant statements like this. HE DID NOT OUTPLAY BRADY.

He played well against the worst defense in the league.
Brady Played good against one of the best defenses in the leage.


Had Brady Been playing against his own Defense, he would have Blown it up. Not even close.
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Brady did not play good against one of the best defenses in the league that night.

[SecretAgentMan]

[quote name='awholelottahaloti' timestamp='1353343947' post='1226046']


Just stop dude!

The Texans have had a good run so far and smoked us in a perfect storm for them. Better than us? I don't think one game proves that. They looked like losers yesterday at home against a bottom tier team and were fortunate to get the W.

The secondary? Overrated by whom? They are what they are and losing Webb hasn't helped the chemistry. I think come January they will be fine.

My opinion on the Ravens is that we are 8 and 2 , lead the AFC North and still have a shot at the #1 seed. Are we the "perfect team" yet? No. Still a work in progress, especially offensive communication on the road and defensive execution. And I also think Joe is a top 5 QB in this league. Period.
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A tip for the near future kasias.... Don't mess with longtime members and or mods on here.... Horrible idea I would know.
Anyway. Secondary.... Injured, and Jimmy hasn't taken the next step yet....
8-2 is still a playoff team as far as I am concerned.
Whole lotta haloti.... Flacco isn't top 5 yet..... He's number 7

[SecretAgentMan]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1353344674' post='1226057']

Brady did not play good against one of the best defenses in the league that night.
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Brady has a tendency to destroy every Defense.... Just sayin

[berad]

[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1353342905' post='1226025']
God I hate ignorant statements like this. HE DID NOT OUTPLAY BRADY.

He played well against the worst defense in the league.
Brady Played good against one of the best defenses in the leage.

Had Brady Been playing against his own Defense, he would have Blown it up. Not even close.
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[quote name='kassaiscool' timestamp='1353343505' post='1226032']
NO NO NO you can't take this game away from joe! This is one of Joes best playoff games ever.. Please don't bring up how bad the patriots defense is because that will only show how favorable of match up that was for him. (sarcasm)
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ROFL you guys cannot be serious!

Brady gets credit for 'playing good' against a tough D but Flacco 'stunk it up' against an even tougher D???

[b][color=#000080]Brady[/color] vs [color=#4b0082]Ravens[/color][/b][color=#4b0082] [/color][i]22/36, 61.1% comp, 239 yds, 6.6 yds/att, 0 TD, 2 INT[/i], [b]57.5 QB rating[/b]

[b][color=#4b0082]Flacco [/color]vs Steelers [/b][i]20/32, 62.5% comp, 164 yds, 5.13 yds/att, 0 TD, 0 INT[/i], [b]75.5 QB rating[/b]

Be consistent at least

[K-Dog]

[quote name='Purple Nurple' timestamp='1353304040' post='1225582']
Haha. I can't believe I'm considering staying out of Ravens Talk for my mandatory four days ( after a loss ) AFTER A WIN!
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A win = loss around here for some odd reason.

[izvoodoo]

[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1353342905' post='1226025']
God I hate ignorant statements like this. HE DID NOT OUTPLAY BRADY.

He played well against the worst defense in the league.
Brady Played good against one of the best defenses in the leage.


Had Brady Been playing against his own Defense, he would have Blown it up. Not even close.
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That's simply not true. Our defense played well, but Joe absolutely Balled out that game. You could also say that New England has better players, but of course there's no one on the field but quarterbacks.

[Corvus]

This fanbase continues to leave me at a loss for words. No one on here is going to argue with the fact that Flacco missed several throws tonight. But as I said in another thread, each game for every team in the league is its own microcosm. Throw out your conceptions of our opponent beating so-and-so last week or us beating whoever last week, it is going to have ZERO affect on the game that is in the present. All 32 teams have professional players who are paid to do a job and from what I've seen, the overwhelming majority play their hearts out on the field. No victory is easy. Am I concerned about our offense? A little bit, only in the sense that obviously we all want to see them put up big numbers. Well guess what, it doesn't always work that way. We were playing the #1 defense in their house, our two victories at Heinz are the only two such losses they have suffered in their home confines as of late. Yet you'd think our team did absolutely nothing based on some of your pessimistic comments. No one is denying our team has tons of work to do to improve in EVERY facet of their game, but for you armchair QBs, can I ask which team in the league is playing perfect right now? I am so sick and tired of the people on these forums who are going to continue doubting our team, you know who you are. I in no way, shape, or form have my purple blinders on. I am one of the most objective sports fans you will ever converse with which is why I can truly appreciate a gritty, extremely hard fought victory like last night's. As Harbaugh has said in the past: "Was it pretty? No, but it was us!" The good teams (see Houston, Atlanta, Denver, Green Bay, and THE RAVENS yesterday) always find a way to win because nothing will ever go as you may have planned in a game. Be a true fan and enjoy this moment and W because last night's game will never happen the same way in any future matchups, and that is the point I am trying to get across. Any given Sunday people. Now, onto the Chargers!

[SecretAgentMan]

[quote name='K-Dog' timestamp='1353348613' post='1226141']


A win = loss around here for some odd reason.
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What does a loss= then??! Hell?

[Tank 92]

[quote name='K-Dog' timestamp='1353348613' post='1226141']


A win = loss around here for some odd reason.
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[quote name='Corvus' timestamp='1353348701' post='1226144']
This fanbase continues to leave me at a loss for words. No one on here is going to argue with the fact that Flacco missed several throws tonight. But as I said in another thread, each game for every team in the league is its own microcosm. Throw out your conceptions of our opponent beating so-and-so last week or us beating whoever last week, it is going to have ZERO affect on the game that is in the present. All 32 teams have professional players who are paid to do a job and from what I've seen, the overwhelming majority play their hearts out on the field. No victory is easy. Am I concerned about our offense? A little bit, only in the sense that obviously we all want to see them put up big numbers. Well guess what, it doesn't always work that way. We were playing the #1 defense in their house, our two victories at Heinz are the only two such losses they have suffered in their home confines as of late. Yet you'd think our team did absolutely nothing based on some of your pessimistic comments. No one is denying our team has tons of work to do to improve in EVERY facet of their game, but for you armchair QBs, can I ask which team in the league is playing perfect right now? I am so sick and tired of the people on these forums who are going to continue doubting our team, you know who you are. I in no way, shape, or form have my purple blinders on. I am one of the most objective sports fans you will ever converse with which is why I can truly appreciate a gritty, extremely hard fought victory like last night's. As Harbaugh has said in the past: "Was it pretty? No, but it was us!" The good teams (see Houston, Atlanta, Denver, Green Bay, and THE RAVENS yesterday) always find a way to win because nothing will ever go as you may have planned in a game. Be a true fan and enjoy this moment and W because last night's game will never happen the same way in any future matchups, and that is the point I am trying to get across. Any given Sunday people. Now, onto the Chargers!
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I swear that a lot of these people get the reality of the NFL confused with fantasy. I can't think of any other explanation for all of the negativity and cynicism.

[KnowNoLimits]

Raven Nation my dear family must I remind us all of the brutal years without a decent quarterback. I came from a highschool where we've won 6 state championships, three the past three years (Yes I'm bragging a little), I'm sure a lot of you also played some football in your life time. That being said, do you remember the feeling of being in the playoffs? It's live or die!!! Expect this Raven team to blow up during the playoffs, the 2012 Baltimore Ravens are a clutch team!