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Anthony Allen seems to have been a good decision

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Coach Hard-Ball made an emphasis on special teams during this offseason and so far so good. A lot of us fans were anticipating a big year out of Anothony, they were indeed correct, but not on the offensive side of the ball.

I stumbled across a pretty cool article today, in which the Ravens gave a lot of our team's kick return success to Anthony Allen:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/nfl-rapidreports/20996281/ravens-credit-unsung-hero-anthony-allen-for-jacoby-jones-kick-return-success
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It's been interesting to see the evolution of the blocking scheme of the kick returns. I don't know if Rosburg finally figured out something or if Allen is the only one in the last couple years who can actually accomplish it, but essentially using 2 blocking backs was a good move. Leach takes the initial guys coming head on and Allen comes in behind to take the next one, usually leaving a good seam for Jones.
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The offseason focus on guys like Considine, Corey Graham, Jacoby Jones, and then getting James Ihedigbo has paid off nicely. We've had some big returns, limited them in coverage, Koch and Tucker have been rock solid. Special teams isn't "sexy" but we made it a priority and it's been a big part of our success, with the sometimes struggling defense and inconsistent offense.

Anthony's been a big part of it not only in the "lead blocking" on returns, but has made some nice pops in coverage too.
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[quote name='CalvinSmoke' timestamp='1353021172' post='1219981']
Coach Hard-Ball made an emphasis on special teams during this offseason and so far so good. A lot of us fans were anticipating a big year out of Anothony, they were indeed correct, but not on the offensive side of the ball.

I stumbled across a pretty cool article today, in which the Ravens gave a lot of our team's kick return success to Anthony Allen:

[url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/nfl-rapidreports/20996281/ravens-credit-unsung-hero-anthony-allen-for-jacoby-jones-kick-return-success"]http://www.cbssports...-return-success[/url]
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I was all about A.Allen until this past preseason. Man he stuck it up BAD, couldn't catch, run or block.

And all last season i saying that they need to give him the ball.


I will say this, B.Pierce turned out to be a great draft pick. When we drafted him, i wasn't really impressed but this guy won't go down where, if Rice were to get the ball on that same play he would be tackled behind the line of scrimmage or his Shoe lace would be touched and he would go down.

Im not trying to knock Rice but he is reminding me of Chris Johnson of last season. Yes Rice will get a break out run but more often than not we are lucky if he gets pass the 2 yd mark.

Now I would much rather have Rice in the spread or a check down. No one does it better but Running it, i think B.Pierce can do just as good.
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I'd say we have one of the top special teams (defensively) in the league without looking at stats. The punt coverage has been great. Rarely give up many yards. Kickoff has been pretty good as well. When Anthony Allen suffered in the preseason as a running back while Bernard Pierce shined I think he knew what he had to do. Special teams has been great and I'm glad we didn't fire Rosburg just because the players weren't playing well.
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[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1353029176' post='1220051']
I still think he has starter potential.
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Rice and Pierce will be a lethal combination for years. Pierce I think can become something special on our team. Allen won't get a chance unless we bulk him up to a fullback. He also doesn't have the best hands. He dropped an easy screen pass in the last game that would've gone for a huge gain.
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[quote name='redrum52' timestamp='1353032774' post='1220070']


Rice and Pierce will be a lethal combination for years. Pierce I think can become something special on our team. Allen won't get a chance unless we bulk him up to a fullback. He also doesn't have the best hands. He dropped an easy screen pass in the last game that would've gone for a huge gain.
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I am so happy we drafted Pierce. I think he is Rice's successor. I love the way he runs. He doesn't come down easy. I can see him replacing Rice in 2-3 years. Also, I think Allen could make a good FB. He needs to add some weight, though.

I wonder how long Leach can keep going.
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He's a great special teamer. On offense though, he's been given plenty of chances to show what he's got, and blown them all.
[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1353033623' post='1220074']
I am so happy we drafted Pierce. I think he is Rice's successor. I love the way he runs. He doesn't come down easy. I can see him replacing Rice in 2-3 years. Also, I think Allen could make a good FB. He needs to add some weight, though.

I wonder how long Leach can keep going.
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Rice aint' goin nowhere, at least for 5 years.
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[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1353033623' post='1220074']
I am so happy we drafted Pierce. I think he is Rice's successor. I love the way he runs. He doesn't come down easy. I can see him replacing Rice in 2-3 years. Also, I think Allen could make a good FB. He needs to add some weight, though.

[b]I wonder how long Leach can keep going.[/b]
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Seriously, there's only so many times you can run into things with your head before it starts to suck. That has to hurt haha.
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[quote name='display name' timestamp='1353034903' post='1220079']
He's a great special teamer. On offense though, he's been given plenty of chances to show what he's got, and blown them all.

Rice aint' goin nowhere, at least for 5 years.
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Never said he was. McGahee was replaced by Rice. Just because someone's replaced doesn't mean he's off the team, though I understand why you thought so.

Rice will play out his contract, relax. I just don't think he remains the starter for the whole contract.
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It's not just on KO Returns. Ant does a really good job covering kicks as well. He's often in on st tackles and I'd be interested in knowing exactly how many he has.

This guy did not have a great training camp or PS, but I think him getting cut really opened his eyes. He's really working hard and it's paying off.

@Berad..I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Allen converted into a FB type in a couple of years. I don't think the up tempo no huddle style of offense is going anywhere. Especially with Harbs and Flacco both talking about getting it faster, I just think the Ravens will bring someone other then Cam to run the offense. I could see Allen being used as that FB/HB type guy kinda like we use Leach now. But as much of a traditional FB
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[quote name='redrum52' timestamp='1353032774' post='1220070']
Rice and Pierce will be a lethal combination for years. Pierce I think can become something special on our team. Allen won't get a chance unless we bulk him up to a fullback. He also doesn't have the best hands. He dropped an easy screen pass in the last game that would've gone for a huge gain.
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The operative word here is "potential."
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[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1353035281' post='1220083']
Never said he was. McGahee was replaced by Rice. Just because someone's replaced doesn't mean he's off the team, though I understand why you thought so.

Rice will play out his contract, relax. I just don't think he remains the starter for the whole contract.
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people arent going to like that comment but i totally agree
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[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1353044630' post='1220140']
I have an idea

Bulk him up, and have Vonta mentor him.... This way, when Leach retires, we dont lose anything.
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Not a bad idea. He played in an option offense in college so blocking is not a new concept for him. If I recall correctly, his blocking was praised coming out of college.

Also, with the changes in the NFL it would help be cool to have a TB/FB hybrid type instead of a strictly traditional FB. Someone like Bruce Miller.
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[quote name='redrum52' timestamp='1353032774' post='1220070']
Rice and Pierce will be a lethal combination for years. Pierce I think can become something special on our team. Allen won't get a chance unless we bulk him up to a fullback. [b] He also doesn't have the best hands. He dropped an easy screen pass in the last game that would've gone for a huge gain.[/b]
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Oh man, any back who dropped a pass this year must have bad hands.
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Good article. I thought Allen was a goner after the pre-season but it's great that he stuck and has carved out key roles on special teams.
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[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1353046075' post='1220149']


Oh man, any back who dropped a pass this year must have bad hands.
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He's dropped others but like I said he won't get his shot because of who's ahead of him, not necessarily his talent level. He's been involved of both of Jacoby's returns and is playing well on st.
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[quote name='display name' timestamp='1353034903' post='1220079']
He's a great special teamer. On offense though, he's been given plenty of chances to show what he's got, and blown them all.

Rice aint' goin nowhere, at least for 5 years.
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We'd be lucky to get 5 years out of rice.
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Good job, AA; you will get paid good next year......

Not alot of ppl pay attention to ST group cuz they don't seem to be very appealing like defense and offense, but ST group can determine the outcome of the game. KR with TD or causing fumbles can shift the game momentum greatly...
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Allen has been a beast on ST which has been our best unit. According to Football Outsiders our ST is far and away the best in the NFL this season and one of the best units ever. Allen has been a big part of that, but Chykie Brown, Corey Graham, BA, Jacoby, Koch, and Tucker have all been excellent. Props to Jerry Rosburg as well.
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[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1353099850' post='1220482']
Allen has been a beast on ST which has been our best unit. According to Football Outsiders our ST is far and away the best in the NFL this season and one of the best units ever. Allen has been a big part of that, but Chykie Brown, Corey Graham, BA, Jacoby, Koch, and Tucker have all been excellent. Props to Jerry Rosburg as well.
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Jerry Rosburg? THE Jerry Rosbury, who fans said to fire, throw under a bus, get hit by a train, etc. last year? Is this the same man, or is it his son, Jerry Rosbury JR or perhaps an unaffiliated Jerry Rosburg or perhaps you meant Gerry Rosburgh, like Gerry Sandusky.

Rosburg's done a great job. He just didn't have a lot to work with last year. Too many young players look like they underestimated ST last year. Glad they got it in gear.
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It didn't have a major impact on the return but did anyone else catch Allen obliterate a guy on Jacoby's TD return?

I loved his desire when he returned the squib kick too.
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[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1353300697' post='1225340']
It didn't have a major impact on the return but did anyone else catch Allen obliterate a guy on Jacoby's TD return?

I loved his desire when he returned the squib kick too.
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I saw that. Did you see his stiff arm on his squib return? He almost bent the guys head off.
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[quote name='rmw10' timestamp='1353300782' post='1225349']


I saw that. Did you see his stiff arm on his squib return? He almost bent the guys head off.
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Ooooooh that was awesome.
Despite his weak pre season, I am thrilled the Ravens kept him.
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