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[The Raven]

After looking at some stats, our running game dropped off when Bobbie Williams came in as the starter. In fact, Rice has yet to rush for 100 yards since Bobbie came in. His average also dropped off considerably when Harewood came out. He's only had one game with a YPC average greater than 4.0, and that was against the Browns. Bobbie was also responsible for two negative runs yesterday. He has been atrocious and I don't know why he's still listed as the starter. Our tight ends' inability to run block doesn't help the perimeter game, which was very weak yesterday. I have to put the blame of the inconsistent run game on Williams and the tight ends. KO also needs to do better on sealing the edge on outside zone plays.

What do y'all think?

Here are Rice's stats:
http://www.nfl.com/p...ce/941/gamelogs

Bobbie Williams' first start was against Dallas.

[gabefergy]

I think (hope) Reid will be the starter moving forward. I also think teams try to take away Rice like Oakland did.

[RavensAllTheWay]

Reid or Harewood should start in place of him.

[berad]

Williams got pulled during the Raiders game and Jah did pretty well.

One play, I saw Bobbie flat on his back right after the snap - Rice was stopped near the line by his man. How does that even happen?

[indianstick]

I've noticed this too. I'm not a fan of bobbie williams, whenever hes played this year, whether its preseason or regular season he hasn't been very effective. His run blocking is poor and his pass blocking (which was supposed to be his strength) is not great either. I don't know if his ankle is still hurt but when jah reid replaced him against oakland it was like night and day. I don't think bobbie wiliams is close to being one of the best 5 linemen we have, i like both reid and harewood over him. I hope the coaching staff agrees and at least lets reid start over bobbie williams against pitt because I don't want to see him getting driven back on run plays to the left.

[H8R]

I've also noticed that rice doesnt always follow Leach and for somereason, he wont bounce it outside. Bobbie wont be playing much from here on out.

[wikle]

I think the game with oakland was just the product of them trying to prove that their game against the bucs the previous week was just a fluke. but i'm fine with a team focusing on rice if it means flacco can produce like he did last sunday

[izvoodoo]

I honestly rather have Harewood and Reid then Williams active on game day. If there's injury he's good depth, but I thought Harewood should have been starting the whole time. His run blocking was beastly.

[allballs]

I think (hope) Reid will be the starter moving forward. I also think teams try to take away Rice like Oakland did.

rice, sadly, is going to be a bust, i told you guys last year , and this year, he's another marian barber, thats why we pulled that franchise move, but we gave in... i didnt 4get the indy playoff game, the pit playoff game, ...the front office did. i mean you find a running back anywhere. and we are gravitating to molding flacco into that 100 million dollar qb, so why would u give rice 40? look at what foster did in houston when he was only making $605,000. and never complained, listen to what he said sunday night. no arrogance. dwyer, for pit, guarantee you he outrun rice....

[HoldingCall]

I think the game with oakland was just the product of them trying to prove that their game against the bucs the previous week was just a fluke. but i'm fine with a team focusing on rice if it means flacco can produce like he did last sunday

Flacco is fine until he is overused and throws 40-50 times in multiple games (look at the problem Eli is having). Then we see Joe's accuracy and efficiency decrease for weeks at a time. The workload of both Joe and Ray needs to be monitored and balanced for best results.

[Fred Sanford]

rice, sadly, is going to be a bust,

No doubt. Tony Mandarich, Brian Bosworth, and Ryan Leaf were great draft selections. People might say, 'Hey, the guy led the league in yards from scrimmage,' but those are people who use things like facts, when facts tend to be overrated and listening to 'allballs' asinine blather far more illuminating.

In other news, scientists report that eating paint chips under power lines next to radioactive waste dumps can be detrimental to mental acuity.

[ooo sugahhh 52]

rice, sadly, is going to be a bust, i told you guys last year , and this year, he's another marian barber, thats why we pulled that franchise move, but we gave in... i didnt 4get the indy playoff game, the pit playoff game, ...the front office did. i mean you find a running back anywhere. and we are gravitating to molding flacco into that 100 million dollar qb, so why would u give rice 40? look at what foster did in houston when he was only making $605,000. and never complained, listen to what he said sunday night. no arrogance. dwyer, for pit, guarantee you he outrun rice....

wow

[arnie_uk]

rice, sadly, is going to be a bust, i told you guys last year , and this year, he's another marian barber, thats why we pulled that franchise move, but we gave in... i didnt 4get the indy playoff game, the pit playoff game, ...the front office did. i mean you find a running back anywhere. and we are gravitating to molding flacco into that 100 million dollar qb, so why would u give rice 40? look at what foster did in houston when he was only making $605,000. and never complained, listen to what he said sunday night. no arrogance. dwyer, for pit, guarantee you he outrun rice....

rice was making an average of 700k for 4 years as well and didnt complain. You can't even make that argument.

I'm one of the people here who thik we shouldn't have paid but to even think about calling him a bust shows you know nothing about football. Absolutely nothing.

Just to clarify, you don't want rice or flacco on this team?

[JoeCool#5]

Rice is a bust. haha. Thanks for the laugh allballs.

[gabefergy]

Ignore user isnt effective when other ppl quote the trolls gibberish.

[RavensAllTheWay]

rice, sadly, is going to be a bust, i told you guys last year , and this year, he's another marian barber, thats why we pulled that franchise move, but we gave in... i didnt 4get the indy playoff game, the pit playoff game, ...the front office did. i mean you find a running back anywhere. and we are gravitating to molding flacco into that 100 million dollar qb, so why would u give rice 40? look at what foster did in houston when he was only making $605,000. and never complained, listen to what he said sunday night. no arrogance. dwyer, for pit, guarantee you he outrun rice....

If Rice is a bust, does that mean that leading the nfl in yards from scrimmage last year and balling out every other year is nullified?

[arnie_uk]

Ignore user isnt effective when other ppl quote the trolls gibberish.

i get a laugh form him... Wizard..............

[Ravenslifer]

rice, sadly, is going to be a bust, i told you guys last year , and this year, he's another marian barber, thats why we pulled that franchise move, but we gave in... i didnt 4get the indy playoff game, the pit playoff game, ...the front office did. i mean you find a running back anywhere. and we are gravitating to molding flacco into that 100 million dollar qb, so why would u give rice 40? look at what foster did in houston when he was only making $605,000. and never complained, listen to what he said sunday night. no arrogance. dwyer, for pit, guarantee you he outrun rice....

Most definitely. Totally agree. I mean, just look at his pathetic numbers - 5th in the league in yards from scrimmage, on pace to set a career high in rushing TDs while at the same time on pace right now to have almost 40 fewer carries than last season just proves how overrated Rice is. Breaking 2000 yards from scrimmage is something almost every running back does, not to mention doing it twice in a career, right?

[PolishRifle]

Yup, Rice is on his way to another 1000+ yards rushing season and might reach another carreer high in TDs scored. The danger he poses for opposing defenses helpes our passing game and he still remains one of Flaccos best options to keep the chains moving in the receiving game. So lets complain about his production, because clearly we ran out of things to complain about.

We have the second best record in the AFC, you guys, lets not set a new record for "the most spoiled fanbase in the NFL" and stick with legit complains (here is a hint: It's not the offense!).

Edited by PolishRifle, 13 November 2012 - 06:10 PM.

[H8R]

I mean, I can see some gripes with Rice in the playoffs... However, teams just stacked the box and took away our best player. Until last season, we couldn't do anything about it.