Weird NFL Rules You Hate

[JO_75]

Figured I put it here, since this does have to do with adding a rule to the NFL and your opinion on it. From PFT, the League will consider ELIMINATING all blocks below the waist in 2013.

[quote]Peter King of SI.com and NBC’s Football Night in America reports that the Competition Committee currently plans to consider [url="https://twitter.com/SI_PeterKing/status/272115956992585728"]eliminating all blocks below the waist[/url]. King believes the league office is “solidly behind” a comprehensive ban, but that resistance from coaches likely will prevent a full prohibition.[/quote]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/23/report-league-will-consider-abolishing-all-blocks-below-the-waist-in-2013/

So let's say this rule does get passed in 2013, would this be added to your list of rules you hate or do you like it?

[K-Dog]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1353643213' post='1229264']
Yep that rule has to be the worst rule. I didn't even know that was a rule. Whatever. It needs to go. I can understand if you want to flag penalize the coach at the very least. But then not to review the play at all when it would be because its a scoring play is an absolute joke.

Once again the Texans get bailed.
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my question is, he was not challenging the touchdown. He was challenging the fact that the runner was down.
Is any given challenge for the WHOLE play or form one particular aspect of the play?

[The Raven]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1353717888' post='1229659']
Figured I put it here, since this does have to do with adding a rule to the NFL and your opinion on it. From PFT, the League will consider ELIMINATING all blocks below the waist in 2013.



[url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/23/report-league-will-consider-abolishing-all-blocks-below-the-waist-in-2013/"]http://profootballta...-waist-in-2013/[/url]

So let's say this rule does get passed in 2013, would this be added to your list of rules you hate or do you like it?
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I'd hate it. Cut blocks have always been a part of football. This is another step in the direction of making the NFL a touch football league.

[MissK528]

Reviving this due to the idiocy over the concern about Frank Gore's sock length.

He's dressed. He looks like a 49er due to his 49ers jersey. Sock length, truly a threat to the game of football...

[ravensdfan]

The Tuck Rule. Most ridiculous thing ever to hit a football field...until.....the "Challenge Flag Rule". How stupid is that rule? Sure okay, walk off the 15 yards, but to not review the play? C'mon man!

I like the new rule for both teams getting possession in OT. Why? Because BS refs can/do put a team right into FG range when they don't deserve it.

Different TD rules for runners and receivers. If a runner only has to break the plane by 1/16 th of an inch, then a receiver should have a TD the second that 2nd foot hits the turf, regardless of what occurs after. This "keeping possession while falling to the ground, getting tackled, smacked in the face and hitting the turf" stuff for receivers is not consistent at all.

Defenseless receiver rules. I don't mind the "helmet to helmet" rules because I understand that but that you can't touch a receiver after a catch or it's a penalty is ridiculous.

All the crappy QB rules. Remember when QBs had to actually be football players? I mean what is it like an inch of their uniform you can legally touch now? lol

[Irish Raven]

Death to the tuck rule

[quote name='MissK528' timestamp='1352690677' post='1216408']
Oh, here's another one. Intentional grounding in the end zone equals a safety. Que? Why?
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I think that's a good rule which makes sense

[1/28/01]

Yes

[wastewheeler]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1353737650' post='1229743']
I'd hate it. Cut blocks have always been a part of football. This is another step in the direction of making the NFL a touch football league.
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I'd have to agree. Plus, Ray Rice blocking most people is below the waste.

[theblackdog]

I hate that the helmet to helmet rule has no exception to when the runner purposely drops their head at the last second so that it contacts the defenders helmet.

[K-Dog]

[quote name='theblackdog' timestamp='1359485480' post='1334280']
I hate that the helmet to helmet rule has no exception to when the runner purposely drops their head at the last second so that it contacts the defenders helmet.
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Like the Pats game right?

I am SO GLAD there was no flag on Pollard for that one.
I am tempted to say I am glad the runner got knocked out cause he brought it on him self, but I will stop just short of saying that.

[flaccopoe]

Does the 1-pt safety rule exist in the NFL?

[ravens__]

[quote name='flaccopoe' timestamp='1359509932' post='1334902']
Does the 1-pt safety rule exist in the NFL?
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No.

[Gojira_Shinigami]

I hate that weird Rooney Rule.

[JO_75]

Roughing The Passer. That flag is thrown so inconsistently that there is no clear definition of roughing the passer. Case in point, Joe has taken a bunch of hits over the years that would be considered roughing the passer but no flag. In the NFC Title game, a Falcons player just SLAPS Kaepernick's helmet and the flag happy receiver said Kaepernick was "roughed". Kaepernick didn't even move when the defender slapped his helmet and it was thrown.

[runamuk]

Mine is excessive celebration or how it's administered. how can a dance in the end zone be excessive and the lambeau leap not be excessive.

[Sizzlebshu]

[quote name='runamuk' timestamp='1359605663' post='1336329']
Mine is excessive celebration or how it's administered. how can a dance in the end zone be excessive and the lambeau leap not be excessive.
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Tradition

Also I hate the Rooney Rule. It is the most laughable rule in the nfl. You can't force someone to hire someone they dont want to hire and to force someone to hire a minority in itself would be racist. (NFL states Team A must have a black HC, team A only interviews black candidates which is racist towards white people, team A hires black candidate and the excuse is he only got the job because he is black....).

Note: I know the rule says you only have to interview one, but thats hilariously racist in itself. I mean look at how many teams interviewed Lovie Smith. He was that guy this year ( and that is hilariously racist toward him as he became their token black guy to end run around the Rooney Rule, the sad part is he is actually a good HC.)

[Neal Could Block the SUN!!]

3 Rules that need looking at-

1) Helmet to Helmet- There is evidence now (see Ray Lewis in NE) that offensive players are dropping there heads down to make helmet contact. This should be reviewable and if the defender keeps his head on plane and the offensive player drops his, the penalty should be negated.

2) Roughing the Brady- C'mon, that's what it is. Stafford gets killed up there in Detroit and no penatly. Brady can walk over to the ref after the play is over and get the call. (Happened to Suggs 3 years ago, IIRC)

3) Review Flag on a auto Review play- Heard this on the radio and it really puts a fly in the ointment. Referring to the 81 yard TD in the Texans v. Lions game. What if Kubiak throws his flag on the play? Schwartz wanted the review to favor his team. If Kubiak throws the flag that negates the honest intention of Schwartz and blocks a review. I can easily see this rule start to be abused by smart coaches to avoid plays being reviewed and getting illegitimate points on the board.

[darklight1216]

This thread has been up for a while and I can't remember if this has already been mentioned, but I think that there should be limitations on the number of red flags that a coach can throw provided that they are successful. If they can get three calls in a row right, then that says to me that those refs deserve to have greater scrutiny on their decisions and if they don't want the flags to be thrown then they can try making the right calls the first time.
[quote name='Neal Could Block the SUN!!' timestamp='1359733412' post='1337480']
3 Rules that need looking at-

1) Helmet to Helmet- There is evidence now (see Ray Lewis in NE) that offensive players are dropping there heads down to make helmet contact. This should be reviewable and if the defender keeps his head on plane and the offensive player drops his, the penalty should be negated.

2) Roughing the Brady- C'mon, that's what it is. Stafford gets killed up there in Detroit and no penatly. Brady can walk over to the ref after the play is over and get the call. (Happened to Suggs 3 years ago, IIRC)

[b]3) Review Flag on a auto Review play- Heard this on the radio and it really puts a fly in the ointment. Referring to the 81 yard TD in the Texans v. Lions game. What if Kubiak throws his flag on the play? Schwartz wanted the review to favor his team. If Kubiak throws the flag that negates the honest intention of Schwartz and blocks a review. I can easily see this rule start to be abused by smart coaches to avoid plays being reviewed and getting illegitimate points on the board.[/b]
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That thought never occured to me, but it is brilliant. (As long as it used by and not against the Ravens, of course) I hope someone does that just to spite the league.

[berad]

[quote name='Neal Could Block the SUN!!' timestamp='1359733412' post='1337480']
3 Rules that need looking at-

1) Helmet to Helmet- There is evidence now (see Ray Lewis in NE) that offensive players are dropping there heads down to make helmet contact. This should be reviewable and if the defender keeps his head on plane and the offensive player drops his, the penalty should be negated.

2) Roughing the Brady- C'mon, that's what it is. Stafford gets killed up there in Detroit and no penatly. Brady can walk over to the ref after the play is over and get the call. (Happened to Suggs 3 years ago, IIRC)

[b]3) Review Flag on a auto Review play- Heard this on the radio and it really puts a fly in the ointment. Referring to the 81 yard TD in the Texans v. Lions game. What if Kubiak throws his flag on the play? Schwartz wanted the review to favor his team. If Kubiak throws the flag that negates the honest intention of Schwartz and blocks a review. I can easily see this rule start to be abused by smart coaches to avoid plays being reviewed and getting illegitimate points on the board.[/b]
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In regards to that, it is the team that throws the flag cannot benefit from the review. The play would still have been reviewed and would have been overturned in the Lions favor... if Schwartz hadn't thrown the flag.

Either way, dumb rule.

[Neal Could Block the SUN!!]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1359747039' post='1337783']
In regards to that, it is the team that throws the flag cannot benefit from the review. The play would still have been reviewed and would have been overturned in the Lions favor... if Schwartz hadn't thrown the flag.

Either way, dumb rule.
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That is the kicker. If Kubiak threw the flag to thwart the review, what would have happened?

[url="http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2012112200/2012/REG12/texans@lions?icampaign=GC_schedule_rr#tab=recap&menu=highlights"]From NFL.com[/url]

[size=4][color=#585858][font=arial, sans-serif]Schwartz threw a challenge flag when Houston's[/font][/color][url="http://www.nfl.com/player/justinforsett/927/profile"]Justin Forsett[/url][color=#585858][font=arial, sans-serif] scored on an 81-yard touchdown run in the third quarter. Replays showed Forsett was down near midfield, but Schwartz negated the automatic review by challenging the play and was called for unsportsmanlike conduct.[/font][/color][/size]

[berad]

[quote name='Neal Could Block the SUN!!' timestamp='1359747754' post='1337800']
That is the kicker. If Kubiak threw the flag to thwart the review, what would have happened?

[url="http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2012112200/2012/REG12/texans@lions?icampaign=GC_schedule_rr#tab=recap&menu=highlights"]From NFL.com[/url]

[color=#585858][font=arial, sans-serif]Schwartz threw a challenge flag when Houston's[/font][/color][url="http://www.nfl.com/player/justinforsett/927/profile"]Justin Forsett[/url][color=#585858][font=arial, sans-serif] scored on an 81-yard touchdown run in the third quarter. Replays showed Forsett was down near midfield, but Schwartz negated the automatic review by challenging the play and was called for unsportsmanlike conduct.[/font][/color]
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That's what I said: if Kubiak threw the flag, it would have been reviewed/overturned. They make a distinction about who would benefit from the replay, if it were to be overturned.

http://nflcommunications.com/2012/11/22/rule-explanation-from-houston-detroit-game/

[Neal Could Block the SUN!!]

Just not seeing your point.

The play in Detroit was not reviewed due to Schwartz throwing the flag. How does any of this suggest that Kubiak can not throw the flag to also circumvent the review?

Obviously, Schwartz blew this effort and is clearly in violation of the rules (re:your link). I do not see any where in that where it states which team can and can not toss a flag. Where are you finding that in this circumstance Kubiak is not allowed to throw a flag? I am not seeing where a statement is being made as to who can and can not challenge a play of this nature.

[color=#404040][font=arial][size=3][u][background=rgb(245, 245, 245)]He must initiate a review before the next legal snap or kick and cannot initiate a review of any ruling against a team that commits a foul that delays the next snap.[/background][/u][/size][/font][/color]

[jaege]

A rule which seems absurd to me is the limited challenge flags. Starting with two is fine, but if a coach wins his challenge he should get the challenge back. Why should he be penalized if the refs get a call wrong?

[cobrajet]

Tuck rule is by far the most ridiculous rule and needs to be eliminated.

[MissK528]

Reviving.

 

So yeah, I've never liked the way they pick playoff teams. I sorta kinda in a way understand the whole "pick one team from each division" thing, but let's face it... there's some bad divisions out there, and they're taking the place of a team that would otherwise be in the playoffs. Just do the top 6 from each conference. Two 10-6 teams missed out because the 7-9 Seahawks in 2010 were the cream of the crap. I don't think that's fair.

[Pats]

^^ agreed, also every rule thats in the vain of roughing the passer, hitting a defenseless receiver and the fair catch I hate, let it be brutal like it should be. Also holding calls and push off pass interference calls and controlling the ball before getting to the ground rules stink in my opinion.

[TSizzle00]

Roughing the passer. QBs who have a history of being overly strong (Big Ben) or overly elusive (Vick) can basically never get a roughing the passer call cause the NFL needs to keep the play alive in case they pull some miracle play.