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Weird NFL Rules You Hate

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Title says it all. I'll start.
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[*]The Tuck Rule. I think everyone here will agree, as will Rich Eisen
[*]The rule about taking a timeout away from a team with an injured player in the last two minutes of each half. There are people who flop, but how is this fair? You can't control whether or not a guy gets a busted face or a torn ACL or something.
[*]Both teams must have possession of the ball in overtime blah blah blah. I get a level playing field, but this is the pros. Great idea for little kids playing Pop Warner.
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Annnnd... GO!!!
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Santonio Holmes "breaking the plane" is a TD but this isn't

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N83jLhwHME4
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Oh man, I had forgotten about that until now. That was some nonsense. For real.

Another one I hate... holding calls. Putting a guy in a headlock is completely different than grabbing a jersey. If your job is to make sure your quarterback isn't getting pancaked, how are you supposed to do that if you can't actually touch the dude?

Also... why is it that I hear a whistle sometimes RIGHT in the middle of a play and there are no flags, yet in other games or even in the same game, you got a whistle 10 minutes later? Do not get it.
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[quote name='MissK528' timestamp='1352683109' post='1216243']
Title says it all. I'll start.

[*]The rule about taking a timeout away from a team with an injured player in the last two minutes of each half. There are people who flop, but how is this fair? You can't control whether or not a guy gets a busted face or a torn ACL or something.

Annnnd... GO!!!
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I agree.
I am not a fan of how the "taunting " penalty is sometimes used.
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Taunting is one that annoys me sometimes. You're playing a game. It's a competition. Really?

Another one I hate in terms of penalties is the unsportsmanlike conduct one on the bench. If a coach spits in someone's face, sure. But just trying to get their attention or something like how Harbs was against New England? I mean, really? You're supposed to at least be a little fired up...
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I hate that a defensive holding penalty is 5yds, PLUS an AUTOMATIC first down...........it shouldnt carry that much weight......also I think pass interference should be a 15-yd penalty and not a spot foul......
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[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]Don't get me started. Really. I've neither the time nor energy to fix this sport.[/i][/font]

[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]~ Malkavian Raven[/i][/font]
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For a long time the force out would be my answer on this one. You can't imagine how happy I was when they eliminated that rule.

I actually like that intentional grounding in the end zone is a safety. It prevents the QB from dumping the ball out of there to avoid taking a sack and stealing one from the defense. I also like that PI is a spot foul. It keeps defenses honest on deep passes. However, I hate that refs seem to call it on defenses much more often than offense even when it's justifiable for both (although less so in recent years, I think), and that offense have started to abuse it a little bit. Not quite sure how I feel about switching it to a 15 yarder, so I'd say stick with the status quo. I'd guess that thought process is why the owners haven't changed it yet, either.

I hate how when a defensive player grabs the ball carrier's face mask it's a fifteen yard penalty, but when the ball carrier does it it's a stiff arm. I've seen that stiff arm abused (see Willis McGahee against the Raiders a couple years back) by RBs who then get cheered for their toughness. When a defenders pulls the same move everyone calls them a dirty player. It's dangerous no matter who does it.

And I think we could all list all the ways QBs are overprotected for a while, so I just want to get that out of the way so it doesn't turn into a "QBs are sissies" thread.
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[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1352683675' post='1216250']
*Venting*
I hate ties a lot!
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i actually want to see more ties... two teams that after 5 quarters have gone at it and the matched to be equalls at the end of it... rewards both teams' effort with a no-loss game, believe this is fair
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[quote name='bmore187' timestamp='1352690548' post='1216405']
I hate that a defensive holding penalty is 5yds, PLUS an AUTOMATIC first down...........it shouldnt carry that much weight......also I think pass interference should be a 15-yd penalty and not a spot foul......
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this... enforce the 5 yrds but that's it... if it was 3rd and 10 how on earth you get a 1st down, never got that
then... pass int is a QB's dream, just throw it deep-deep-deep and you got 2 out of 3 chances you gain extra good yardage (catch or pass int vs defensive non-pass int play)... if it's 15 yrds for big personal fouls then this should be the same
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Celebration penalties. Why penalize it? If you're happy, you're happy. I get the discipline part of it but I mean really?
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There was a point in time where teams were doing all these crazy choreographed song and dance routines. It was flat out annoying.
It was because of that nonsense the rule was created.
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My goodness, where to start. Basically I hate every rule that has catered to Quarterbacks and offenses that has taken defense out of Football. You can't play good defense anymore without it being some type of flag on the defense.
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I really hate the defenseless receiver penalties and while I understand the desire to protect QBs, I still think it's a bit over the top.

The tuck rule is ridiculous and I dont know how it hasnt been addressed yet.
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Illegal contact... it's almost never called, and when it is, it seems like it's on a 3rd and 25 and away from the play. The refs need to get more consistent in general, but especially with this penalty.
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gabefergy beat me to it, but I can't stand the defenseless receiver penalties, or at least the way that they are implemented. I still recall our last Playoff game against the Colts, wherein Austin Collie attempted to reel in a TD pass, ducked at the sight of Ray Lewis, was subsequently drilled and awarded a penalty that placed the ball at the goal line. Ones like those drive me nuts. I also have an issue with numerous personal foul penalties that penalize a player for making contact after being unable to decelerate after moving at full speed. An obvious opposition would be the tuck rule, as well as anything that significantly favors one side over another.
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[quote name='MissK528' timestamp='1352690677' post='1216408']
Oh, here's another one. Intentional grounding in the end zone equals a safety. Que? Why?
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Thinking is that if the QB wouldn't have grounded it, it would have been a safety anyways. Similar to how offensive holding in the endzone is a safety
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I hate the leverage rule. It's only called once in a blue moon and usually at the worst possible time. It's just plain stupid.
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It blows my mind that the Tuck Rule has not been eliminated. No one on the planet likes that rule except those in the New England area. It's a damn fumble for Pete's sake!

Another one I don't like is all the rules on how an offense has to line up. Playing street ball in Baltimore City, as long as we were behind the line of scrimmage when the ball was hiked nobody cared how someone was lined up. There are way too many illegal formation calls, as long as they are behind the line of scrimage, let the offense line up and run the play they want.
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[quote name='cobrajet' timestamp='1353024532' post='1220015']

Another one I don't like is all the rules on how an offense has to line up. Playing street ball in Baltimore City, as long as we were behind the line of scrimmage when the ball was hiked nobody cared how someone was lined up. There are way too many illegal formation calls, as long as they are behind the line of scrimage, let the offense line up and run the play they want.
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agreed!!
I dont see how being in one formation over another can create a significant advantage or safety issue.
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I hate that a personal foul penalty can negate a turnover, even if it occurs after the turnover and had no effect on whether the turnover would have happened.
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I'm going to echo what every one else has said about DPI. How is it that grabbing and twisting a guy's facemask, which could literally break his neck is only worthy of 15 yards, but grabbing a jersey could lose your team 80 yards if the opposing quarterback has a rocket launcher attached to his shoulder like Flacco?

[quote name='MissK528' timestamp='1352690677' post='1216408']
Oh, here's another one. Intentional grounding in the end zone equals a safety. Que? Why?
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All penalties in the endzone result in a safety, I think.

But speaking of intentional grounding I kind of hate that there isn't more common sense attached to that. When a qb throws the ball into the ground two feet in front of him to avoid a sack, that should be grounding regardless of whether or not the running back (who's often facing the opposite direction) was "in the area." I feel like he should have to at least hit his player with the ball when they're that close to him or something... anyways, that drives me crazy when I see.
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[quote name='cobrajet' timestamp='1353024532' post='1220015']
It blows my mind that the Tuck Rule has not been eliminated. No one on the planet likes that rule except those in the New England area. It's a damn fumble for Pete's sake!

Another one I don't like is all the rules on how an offense has to line up. Playing street ball in Baltimore City, as long as we were behind the line of scrimmage when the ball was hiked nobody cared how someone was lined up. There are way too many illegal formation calls, [b]as long as they are behind the line of scrimage, let the offense line up and run the play they want.[/b]
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Concur.
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That you can't challenge a pass interference penalty, with how potentially big that penalty can be, it should be review-able
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I think you should be able to challenge penalties in general. Remember the game against the Steelers when Webb brought it back on a punt return for a touchdown and it got negated because of a holding call? It was clear that the Steelers player flopped and pulled our guy down with him when you actually watched it again.
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[quote name='callahan09' timestamp='1353080288' post='1220256']
I hate that a personal foul penalty can negate a turnover, even if it occurs after the turnover and had no effect on whether the turnover would have happened.
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I agree. I have no idea why "after the play was over" doesn't apply there. Not to be biased, but take the Kruger penalty at the end of the CLE game for example.
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