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[News] Why Didn’t Haloti Ngata, Jimmy Smith Play?

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Veteran lineman Bobbie Williams also sat out most of the game and Ed Reed had a stinger.

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I liked the way the offensive line played with Jah Reid in there. Maybe that should be a permanent change or something.
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It says a lot about our defense that we were missing our best D-lineman, our best CB, and our third best CB, our best LB, and our best safety and we still balled all day long.
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[quote name='kghandiko' timestamp='1352676433' post='1216088']
I liked the way the offensive line played with Jah Reid in there. Maybe that should be a permanent change or something.
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I didn't realize that Williams started the game (as I missed the first couple possessions), so I thought Reid won the starting job. Regardless, it is so good to see him out there and playing effective. I've been worried about him, given we seemed high on him, yet (due partly to injury) we haven't gotten much out of him as of yet. Hope this trend continues.
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It was nice to have the early lead and build on it to get these guys some rest and others some playing time. Great job today Ravens!
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You gotta love these injured guys attitudes, not a selfish bone in their bodies,...they would play if the team needed them, but are glad for the younger guys to get a chance...this is a close knit team and it shows! All for one and one for all!

Go Ravens!!!
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I'm really liking how a lot of the rookies and 2nd year guys are playing, especially today. Should give all of them a good bit of a confidence boost!!
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First off the secondary looked much improved with Chykie brown in and Graham ,they seemed to work better together back there ,one thing i took note of was Palmer rarely through Chykie or Graham's way it was Mostly to Williams and Williams played pretty well this Game Hopefully that carries on to the steelers Game ,i also noticed with Ray on the Sidelines Pumping the team up its almost like he was still in the game as another man as i said earlier in the week Ray would be the man to go to if our def cord stunk it up again,anyways the complete shock i didnt see coming was Reid on the O-line how well he has come along to make holes that should be a permanent change and same with the D-line Tyson not sure why the guy was a 7th rounder ,but hes a Huge bright spot for the line ,and finally Upshaw picking it up ,i feel this team is peeking at the perfect time ,i keep hearing about the texans Game ,but you know what had that Game been played in Baltimore that Outcome is reversed ,so heres to hoping the steelers lose long shot i know lol but we can hope ,and heres to the bears crushing the texans ,being in Chicago is def Proabable ,,Go Ravens..
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[quote name='yanmei89' timestamp='1352676169' post='1216082']
I thought they benched Jimmy for his poor performances the past couple of games.
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You "thought"???? I think not.
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I guess we've just about maxed this game out. We won, we won deserved and comfortably, the way a Ravens-caliber team is supposed to win, we were good both sides of the ball, in spite of the injuries and the absence of players like Ray Lewis or Ngata, we had the chance to test some youngins in eral NFL action - and they stood up well most of the time.

If we had 2 good CB's it would be nirvana - but hey, you can't have everything.

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For some reason, I just can't get past the thought that maybe this had so much more to do with simply a dreadful Raiders defense (secondary) than it did with us.

All I know is, it didn't seem like the actual pass plays we were calling were much different than most weeks, and our receivers and especially TEs seemed to be running free down the middle on nearly every play.

Mostly, I think the Raiders committee to loading the box against Rice, and Flacco started picking them apart with slants and TE streaks.

However, it just seemed like at times it was simply too easy, which makes it seem much more like a lack of ability on the defensive side instead of a great performance by the offense.

I'm hoping I'm wrong though.
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I say stick with Chykie Brown. Give him as many reps as possible. He can be good. High ceiling.

Next year when Webb comes back, Chykie might have enough game to play the other side of the field
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Jimmy was in on special teams because he had a penalty. And im sure I seen Haloti in on a few plays.
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I was thinking that we shoudnt have played ngata even last week so I'm happy we didn't have to use him. Also giving jimmy a game off is nice. First bc he's been on the injury report every week and second it gives young corners playing time. The only way for players to develop is to be on the field in my opinion and this gives them some experience. I wanna see Asa Jackson in the mix. The last corner we drafted from a small school ended up being a pretty solid player in Ladarius Webb so I wanna see what Asa is made of
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[quote name='sami' timestamp='1352686563' post='1216316']
Jimmy was in on special teams because he had a penalty. And im sure I seen Haloti in on a few plays.
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I dont remember seeing him on the field.. Could have been a Ref getting a wrong #
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It is awesome that Ngata got some extra rest time to prepare for the Steelers next week. And although I was not happy with the amount of yardage put up by Palmer, the game did replace some faith in our depleted defensive backfield. Now let's use our execution this week as a starting point to improve on for next week in Pittsburgh.
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chykie is underrated!

if it wasnt for graham blowing that coverage (on obvious man to man with 1 safety deep against their leading receiver ) thisgame would have been a huge confidence boost on all levels.

reed is forgiven for missing the tackle on dhb because hes reed

front seven looked really solid and upshaw was always in the right position. a healthy suggs and ngata will bring us back to the great run stopping team we are

jimmy plays big in big games ( 2011 playoffs) we will need him more against pitt than we did this week.

jacoby is turning into a monster and i like how we threw within the hashes to our tight ends

keep defenses honest by feeding rice and we are set to make a run!!! never thought id say it but GOOD GAME CAM!
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[quote name='sami' timestamp='1352686563' post='1216316']
Jimmy was in on special teams because he had a penalty. And im sure I seen Haloti in on a few plays.
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ref said 22 wrongly... penalty was on no 32... ihedigbo
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I thought Cary williams played much better this week then I have seen him in the past . and Tyson i would love to see him used more . I am realistic I loved this game but at the same time next week the steelers are not going to allow us to do the same . I think we can beat the steelers if we keep our foot on the gas and play all four quarters like today I think we can proceed with dominating the division.
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DLINE: So after all the insane talks saying that a hurting Ngata is better than any of our Defensive linemen i'm glad to tell that was wrong... this is probably the best game we had from our Dline even since Ngata was not injured... the rookies Tyson and Hall are playing solid and i have very high expectations for them! Tyson is very good at the point of attack and never gave up ground. Hall is undersized but am i the only one to recognize a future Kelly Gregg ? he even has the same body language!
Artur Jones finally had a good game and Cody and Kemo where decent too.

LB CORPS: WOW what an effort by Kruger and Upshaw. Kruger was a beast at pass rushing and Upshow is becoming a good run stuffer LB.

CB: those who read my post know what i thought about Chykie Brown especially after his final minute performance against the cowboys! this kid is a beast in man coverage, probably better than williams or smith. he deserve more playing time.

Safeties: i have a big problem with Ed reed right now. i'm a huge fan of Reed and i know how much he gave for this ffotball team but right now he is a liability in our secondary (no matter how much game changing play he can make in our way ). he can't secure a tackle anymore and it's not new. His experience and hard hitting shoulder charge are not cutting it. Pollard is finally the intimidator again in our defense laying the wood play after play.

ST : Jacoby jones again! what a great returner. Our coverage team is playing solid especially RB anthony allen wich is a great surprise.

Offensive Line : we have seen a glimpse of our future Oline for years to come (except for Birk)
jah reed was decent, yanda and Osemele are forces and Oher is having a quiet good season at LT. They protect very well Flacco. Not dominating at the running game but solid.

WR/TE: finally a good offensive performance. Dickson finally able to hang a pass. Pitta always a great receiver. torrey smith the speedster and Boldin the mentor. this group can be explosive and beat you in many different ways.

RB/FB: Rice/leach we have a probowl backfield period. pierce is becoming a legit change of pace back. he need to play a little more south/north but he has some great breaking tackle ability.

QB: If you give Joe flacco 3 second to throw , he will shred you... Great game for n°5

kudos to our fans : we are invincible at home !!!

GO RAVENS GO!
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[quote name='JakeNumber55' timestamp='1352720659' post='1216604']
Jimmy got penalty for holding on Tandon Dosses punt return. Either im going crazy or refs messed up, lol.
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Refs messed up...it was on 32.
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It's common sense. If your hurt you shouldn't play. Harbaugh must be afraid to sit Ed Reed down. There is no way he plays better hurt than one of our other young healthy safeties. As it turns out we have better linebacker play with Ray Lewis cheerleading from the sidelines. Our coach has to learn to field the best team and not worry about egos and being politically correct.
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lol perfect sit game , heaL UP For steelers this week!

Flacco always plays good at Pitts.. So i really think we got a huge chace of taking it .. Lets see how they look tonight , lol prob smash cheifs at HOME.
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[quote name='KidNme' timestamp='1352722737' post='1216621']
Goodbye Ed!
I'm poking you with a fork because....you're done!
[/quote] I'm voitng the above, the worst comment ever.
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Chykie Brown and Deangelo Tyson are showing steady improvement and I like the depth they provide us~

Upshas has been getting better with each game and I am excited about his potential. Feel like he is just starting to hit his stride

Wow... though that JAH looked dominate is spots. He looked lost a time or two but I think that is just reps. WHen you see his upseide... he can be a mauling, nasty presence on the OL! Hope he continues his development!
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I say it was a great decision to sit most of our injured players for this game... we where already leading big... save them for the BIG SHOW DOWN NEXT WEEK. And this is the 1st game i've seen our defensive line jumping up if they couldn't get to the QB knocking down balls. I thank we had 7 total. great job defensive line. and even though it was a 3rd string back i'm glad ya'll held him under 100 yrds. but now its time to put this game behind us and get ready for the steelers... i'm happy for the blow out but I kind of already had a blow out in my head when they 2 hbs was out for the game. but once again good job defence and offence. now lets carry this with us on the ROAD cause thats where we are having the problems at. GO RAVENS!!!!!!!!
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also... glad we kept attacking until the 3 mins was left. I would love to see this every game but we all know thats not going to happen. but Cam if you keep coaching like that then we might actually want you to stay,,, MAYBE LOL
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jacoby jones may be the best FA signing the ravens have picked up on offense, he provides big plays on special teams and forces teams to respect his speed as well as torrey's, opening up the middle for the run game and te's
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Its great to see then when fairly minor injuries occur that the coaches are taking them out. Gives our first string players time to rest and gives second string guys a chance to prove themselves but to also get themselves game ready if the time comes when more serious injuries happen.
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I was really surprised on how the D Line played without Ngata they looked real physical and they did there job grant run DMC wasn't playing but still they played great without a pro bowler in the lineup
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Soooooo ..... great game on Sunday. Take it to Pittsburgh this week. Really liked Upshaw's aggressive play.
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Hey man! Good news as far as I'm concerned! A healthy Jimmy Smith and Haloti Ngata? Merry Christmas! Going into Pittsburgh week? Happy Christmahankwanza! I just hope Jimmy Smith will have a break out game against the Steelers because everyone is saying he's a disappointment and I don't want anyone on the Ravens to be talked about like that! Especially a defensive player the Ravens drafted in the first round! That doesn't happen very often and yeah! Common Jimmy! Work and study and have yourself a ball on this Ravens defense come Sunday! The Pittsburgh Steelers and Big Ben will have plenty of trouble if you do! Big Ben might even be out. Exciting times.
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Prediction: Ravens 24 - Steelers 20. I think we'll sweep our division again if that offense we saw vs. the Raiders shows up and plays their "A game". We fans needed to see a blowout game by the offense, first to instill confidence, and secondly to stop us from having heart attacks when the offense struggles against lesser opponents.

One thing the Ravens' defense has to focus on is getting off the field on 3rd and longs. For instance, it seems like if it's 3rd and 17 they give up 18 yards...etc... Closure with solid tackling and discipline on those plays will let us start winning that time of possession stat.

Kudos to the tight ends, especially Dixon, who seems to have vastly improved his ability to make athletic catches and hold onto the ball.
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So what are the chances we bring in Stanford Routt with two corners down now??? And what about Ray Edwards? He could be hungry for a starting spot again after boloing in ATL.
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