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DeAngelo Tyson the next big draft gem?

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Looked like it with the way he played today. Hopefully he turns into the next of Ozzie's great late round choices. I'm pulling for this guy and hope he gets the start next week.
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One game. Come on. While he was good just look at McPhee, many said that about him after his great YEAR, now well he's looking like that 5th round player you'd except with that caliber of a pick.
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All of these young guys have talent, they just have to develop and adjust. Art Jones is starting to come on as a decent run stopper, but the entire season will be an adjustment for him, because he's never started in the NFL before. Upshaw is ballin, Albert Mac, is ballin, Kruger seems to have found comfort, it's just allowing these guys to develop.

That was the 9th game of the season and despite all the yards by Palmer, it was a pretty good showing at the defense. I wouldn't be surprise to have these guys playing at a top 10 level heading into the playoffs, especially if Ngata can get healthy.
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[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1352674211' post='1216033']
No, not a gem, but a solid player, which we need more of.
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Hey, you never know. He's been quite impressive so far.
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[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1352672955' post='1215995']
One game. Come on. While he was good just look at McPhee, many said that about him after his great YEAR, now well he's looking like that 5th round player you'd except with that caliber of a pick.
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McPhee has been playing injured all year.. How are you gonna say he's looking like a 5th rounder? He didn't even play today.. The guy is a Mississippi country boy, if he missed a game he's really hurting bad. Let the guy get healthy and show you what he can do, anyone who's watched McPhee play when he's healthy knows the kid is a tank.
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[quote name='sflegend89' timestamp='1352674952' post='1216057']
McPhee has been playing injured all year.. How are you gonna say he's looking like a 5th rounder? He didn't even play today.. The guy is a Mississippi country boy, if he missed a game he's really hurting bad. Let the guy get healthy and show you what he can do, anyone who's watched McPhee play when he's healthy knows the kid is a tank.
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Not to mention he added weight this year. It'll take him another year to get his quickness up with the added bulk.
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[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1352672955' post='1215995']
One game. Come on. While he was good just look at McPhee, many said that about him after his great YEAR, now well he's looking like that 5th round player you'd except with that caliber of a pick.
[/quote]I agree. McPhee looked like one of those picks, but just look at him now. Though if McPhee can pick his game up again then I'd consider him a 'steal' at least based on where we got him.
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[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1352672955' post='1215995']
One game. Come on. While he was good just look at McPhee, many said that about him after his great YEAR, now well he's looking like that 5th round player you'd except with that caliber of a pick.
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True. Let's not give out crowns too soon. Like what he did today though. Same for Kruger. That said, what about Upshaw? Now he's balling.
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Gotta give the guy credit. They said his name numerous times and not for penalty calls. The guy is big, fast and looks like he can find a way to be around the ball. Great game. Kruger even stepped up a bunch today.
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I would be confident enough to start him, we need guys who can drop anchor and occupy blocks and he's looking like the only player besides Ngata who can.
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[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1352672955' post='1215995']
One game. Come on. While he was good just look at McPhee, many said that about him after his great YEAR, now well he's looking like that 5th round player you'd except with that caliber of a pick.
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To be fair, McPhee has been hobbled since the off-season. He had two arthroscopic surgeries on his right knee before training camp and we've seen the results. This is will probably be a "lost" year for him, but he could still become the player we thought he'd be after his rookie year.

As for Tyson, it's great he stepped up today, but he has a long way to go before we should start labelling him a gem.
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Tyson and Hall both looked good today, but to be fair Oakland all in all looked pretty awful. It's hard to judge because on one hand he was getting around the ball, eating up blocks and batted 2 or 3 balls.... but a lot of guys had better than usual days and as a team we batted a ton of balls. So was it that Oakland allowed these guys to look good or that they all played better?

Tough to say but probably a combination of both. We'll definitely find out next week.
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[quote name='BOLDnPurPnBlacK' timestamp='1352735716' post='1216713']
Tyson and Hall both looked good today, but to be fair Oakland all in all looked pretty awful. It's hard to judge because on one hand he was getting around the ball, eating up blocks and batted 2 or 3 balls.... but a lot of guys had better than usual days and as a team we batted a ton of balls. So was it that Oakland allowed these guys to look good or that they all played better?

Tough to say but probably a combination of both. We'll definitely find out next week.
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While I want to agree with you I am not sure I will be a believer if Tyson repeats against the Steelers. Their OL isn't that good. It's been doing OK, but not great and also remember Ben is pretty mobile and likes to buy time so I won't count it against Tyson if he has a bad game, either.

Honestly, I think he real test is against the Broncos, but he might not be playing by then. We'll see.

But I do agree; today both Tyson and Hall looked pretty damn good! Happy to see them make an impact.
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[quote name='sflegend89' timestamp='1352674952' post='1216057']
McPhee has been playing injured all year.. How are you gonna say he's looking like a 5th rounder? He didn't even play today.. The guy is a Mississippi country boy, if he missed a game he's really hurting bad. Let the guy get healthy and show you what he can do, anyone who's watched McPhee play when he's healthy knows the kid is a tank.
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He was healthy when the season started and got no pressure, and got pushed around like a rag doll. I dont know why the organization thinks these guys are everydown players. They are situational pass rushers who florish when you have suggs and ngata (and redding last year) locking up guys so they can make a play. This year has proven it, they cant win 1 on 1 matchups with starting lineman. And im sure it had NOTHING to do with Pagano's exotic blitzing and packages.......
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[quote name='jimmypowder' timestamp='1352763682' post='1217026']
Repeat after me, " it was only Oakland "
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Repeat after me, "they beat Pittsburgh".
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[quote name='H8R' timestamp='1352767264' post='1217081']
Repeat after me, "they beat Pittsburgh".
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lol love this response, its the NFL everyones a professional, and anyone can be beat on any given day. Success against any team is great, and it could be worse, they could have looked bad vs Oakland so just be happy for the boys and wish them well!
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[quote name='sflegend89' timestamp='1352674952' post='1216057']


McPhee has been playing injured all year.. How are you gonna say he's looking like a 5th rounder? He didn't even play today.. The guy is a Mississippi country boy, if he missed a game he's really hurting bad. Let the guy get healthy and show you what he can do, anyone who's watched McPhee play when he's healthy knows the kid is a tank.
[/quote]he won't be able to hold down that starting role. His pass rush suffered badly when he had to put weight on to be that 3 down end. He needs to drop the weight and go back to that pass rush specialist, as long as we can draft someone to start.
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[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1352743608' post='1216818']


He was healthy when the season started and got no pressure, and got pushed around like a rag doll. I dont know why the organization thinks these guys are everydown players. They are situational pass rushers who florish when you have suggs and ngata (and redding last year) locking up guys so they can make a play. This year has proven it, they cant win 1 on 1 matchups with starting lineman. And im sure it had NOTHING to do with Pagano's exotic blitzing and packages.......
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First off...he wasnt healthy. You might remember he barely participated in TC and preseason.

Second, please explain Pagano's " exotic" blitzes and "packages".
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The ability to anchor and eat up space is an underrated and an overlooked ability, sometimes it doesn't matter how big or heavy you are or how much weight you put on.
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