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[News] The Breakdown: No Easy Answer To Offensive Inconsistency

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Eisenberg offers 5 gameday thoughts, including key coaching decisions and taking a chill pill.

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I have an easy answer, play calling was bad. When the Browns started stopping the run in the 3rd quarter the Ravens kept at it, it normally set up a 3rd and long followed by Flacco taking a shot deep to Torrey Smith. This happened for those 5 or so consecutive 3 and outs. I sometimes think drawing plays out of a hat would be better than letting Cam call plays IMO.
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The call to for two by Harbaugh is not a notable "good coaching decision." The chart that all head coaches have with all possible scoring combinations would dictate that you go for it in that situation. It was the right call, just not notable as a great coaching call.
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ran the ball well in the first... stopped running in the second.... by the late 2nd early third we were back to our 3 throws in a row 3 and out... and when we did run it was first and second running inside and then 3rd and long, the play calling is still poor but it got it done today. the first quarter is the way we can play every game if cam will let us
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Ravens on offesne still needs to be able to make in game adjustments. Ravens always seem to start off good, but when the defesne adjust, the Ravens don't counter-adjust which lead to 5 straight 3 and outs. That is exactly what happend in Houston except Houston is a much better team. Even with Ray and Webb out, overall the Ravens have a talented roster especially on offense. No, the O-line isn't great, but neither is the Steelers or Patriots. They use scheme and design to get guys opens and setup runs. Cam just can't in-game adjust and the offense, even at home, goes throug lulls. Expect Cam to be gone next year. Pees, isn't great either. The defense always looks like its reacting instead of attacking. Pees is definetly more like Mattison than Chuck.
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According to footballoutsiders, Ravens came into today's game with the # 3 special teams outfit. ST is keeping us competive.
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There is a easy answer, its called Cam Cameron. My god people I promise you,almost any other offensive coordinator that has this type of talent would not have such bad play calling, its not Joe`s fault not the O-lines fault, it is Cam Cameron`s fault. You know why the Offensive dose good at home because it is a more friendly place to run that no huddle offense and Flacco takes control, when we go into the lions den like Pittsburgh like Huston its really hard to communicate and Cam Cameron slows the game down and takes control and fails. I mean look what happened in Seattle last year no man in his right mind besides Cam Cameron would pass the ball 60 times with Ray Rice in the back filed..... common sense man he dosent have it please get rid of him!!!!
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So running the ball all the time doesn't work either? Why am I not surprised? You need to do, what is the right thing to do at that moment. Lately I have a feeling, that all those Cam haters are right and our much better performance at home comes from Flacco being able to correct Camerons playcalling more effectively.
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I couldn't disagree with the title of this article more. There is an extremely obvious, glaring answer to the offense being inconsistent. It's so obvious, I called it in previous posts, long before this game started. Everyone has been calling for Ray Rice to get the ball more, and I've been saying all along that Cam will go back to running almost every 1st down, defenses will adjust, and the offense will be extremely predictable and easy to defend. That's what he's always done in the past, so it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that he's doing that again. It's been going on ever since Cam has been here. The routes the receivers run are also very basic and easy to defend, which is why Flacco almost never has open receivers to throw to. I don't know how you can be an NFL writer who watches every Ravens game and not be able to figure that one out.
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I now we asked for run man but if you notice the run isnt working pass is not that difficult....i was the only one that was super happy after the 2 touchdown and then was what is hapenning?
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BoominRaven, We kept running in the 2nd and 3rd quarter wWe just kept getting nothing from it. Every single 3 and out the offense has follows a specific formula: 2 back to back runs by Ray Rice result in a 3rd and 8 or 9, Flacco either throws a very deep pass for an incompletion or a quick completion to a close target who doesn't have a prayer of making it the 1st down marker. I'm not an offensive guru, but maybe, when the opponent stacks the box begging you to throw the ball, maybe that's an appropriate time to start the intermediate passing game. I know Ray Rice is a great back, but he is also human and every time you throw him against a solid wall of 300 pound men he's going to get held for little to know gain; even when the O-line wasn't dominated and managed to open some cracks, there was always an ILB or SS there to hold him to 3. Cam is capable of putting together an adequate gameplan, but he has absolutely NO concept of adjustments in his head.
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Here is an easy answer. Let Cam call plays in the 1st and 4th Quarters. And anybody else in the 2nd and 3rd Quarters.
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General Eisenhower said it best after the Normandy invasion; that you can have all of your battle plans written down on paper, ready to attack and defeat the enemy. After the first shot is fired you throw them all away. Cameron is incapable of readjusting to a new course of action that defenses create on the playing field. He still clutches to his dog eared, four year old playbook.
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When we ran the ball left or right we had success (1st qtr). Up the middle we had no success (2nd & 3rd qtrs). So what does Cam call for ? You got it, run plays up the middle.

Did anyone else catch this ?
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Offensive problems are on Cam Cameron he sucks; Dean Pees is no better .. NO way we beat Ben, & the Manning Brothers with the way our deefense is playing.
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pretty easy to see why this offense is stuck in concrete just look at the head coach and his loyalty to Cam Cameron.Can the Baltimore media just ask Harbaugh if he sees any difference in Cams play calling now from previous years as the Ravens OC I bet he wont answer that question and that will be your answer. until Cams playbook is taken away you are going to see the same predictible offense week in and week out.
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The so-called inconsistency was just the opposite. It was consistent. It was consistently bad for 2 quarters with no changes and resulting lousy results. No inconsistency here, though.
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"There%u2019s no easy answer. It just is."

Hey John, your a good writer but please don't be an apologist for Cam Cameron. There is an easy answer and thats saying bye bye to Cam Cam. Never in his time here has Cameron maximized the talent on the offense. They consistently play under the level of talent that is there. We see the flashes from time to time but Cam is never able to get his players to sustain it.

We saw it again today for about the 50th time. The outhouse and the penthouse all in one game.....Too many weapons on this team for the offense to struggle like it does.
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the running game was on point the first two possessions and then after that Cam made no adjustments to the browns adjustments to stopping the Ravens run....especially that inside junk Cam kept calling. sure, throw the ball when need be in order to be balanced and to take advantage of the defense. but what about adding sweeps, pitches and tosses to get Rice's speed running to the outside? Rice isn't a bruiser back to keep trying to pound the ball up the gut with him.

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If we keep playing like this, the steelers are going to kill us! Why are our receivers having a hard time getting open? need to develope some play to open our really good receivers to that they can do the damageafter the catch..........other to the right and mckinnie to the left and power rice!!
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Side effects of watching a Ravens game is it may cause swelling of the lips, tongue and throat. Never a dull moment.
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@Raveninexlle,

I agree We Kept with the Same game Plan on Offense to Feed Ray Rice.. when he gained 11 carries for 66 in quarter 1 and 14 carries for 33 in quarters 2-4 thats little over 2 yards per carry very poor.

And I'm not against giving it to Ray because he's great, but when the Opposing team is stacking up to shut down the Run and they achieve it. And only Passing Plays you give your QB are 3rd and Longs and Obvious passing situations just stupid...

When Cam and Ravens saw Ray Was being Stopped 2nd Q on, he should have adjusted and kept with the run... but go No huddle and play action pass first downs, mix it up and if it fails hand it to Ray 2nd down for 3-5
to make it a manageable 3rd down... and if it's a completion it's a big play..
Nobody is saying abandon the run... or the Nuddle or Play Action

But even a Blind Person could see to make that adjustment in the 2nd quarter on, from Run dominate to Pass/Run mix
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That's all you improved after a bye week?... okay calm down, im sorry guys, so who its going to be fired?
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I thought the play calling was the problem in the "funk".. When Joe has trouble completing passes Cam sticks with it too long and things just die. Why are we still shouting for Cam to run the ball? Because we win when we run and it opens up the big play.
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If I were a football analyst asked to explain our offense - I would need to be a genius and still come up short! It is impossible to know why we underperform and when. It is befuddling to say the least. I have come to the conclusion to not even try henceforth and just hope they make enough plays on offense to eke out a win at least 5-6 more times this season and we make the playoffs. That's all I am hoping for at this point!
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Rice said the Browns adjusted, adding a player in the box to make things harder for him. Meanwhile, Cameron stuck with the run, as everyone wanted...

Hello...If Cam had seen the adjustment as Rice stated then it was time for him to play action pass. Evidently Cam didn't see what Ray Rice did.
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i have an easy answer: fire cam cameron, or is that too deep for writer and members of the ravens to wrap their head around?
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Matt ryan vs Joe flacco, Matt ryan have 3 amazings Wr's, and a beast Te Tony gonzales, An awesome OC, Ravens?-> yeah braa we got one of the worst OC, a bad combination in the O-line, our Wr except of boldin are average, we got pitta yeah, but we all want heap back to help pitta... a lot of things to say, but im tired of this crap in the Offense, The defense is the first time they are playin bad they got alot of things to do, but main problem its the Offense... im out
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Joe doesn't make enough plays. Period. You guys can blame Cam or whoever all you want, but Joe has playmakers in our offense and he doesn't give them the opportunity to make plays. Watch him go through his progression on important 3rd downs: he looks for a guy to be wide open and if he isn't, then he throws the ball away or takes a sack. Elite QBs make a play when it needs to be made. Joe doesn't do that. As long as we have a QB who doesn't do that, then our offense will look exactly like it did today, and like it has basically all year long.
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Ellerbe and Corey Graham played well! Chykie looks like he wants some more burn too. I still thik we should have rested Ngata. We need him well for the long hual and another week could have been a game changer in regards to his health.
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Tired of people jumping on Joe. Did you notice how the one audible he had (on the 2 pt conversion) went flawlessly? He covers up Cam's mediocre playcalling. Joe has an arm and makes solid plays when given the opportunity to make reads and draws up more than basic-type WR routes. The entire offense has to sort things out, but Cam is the core that's making it hot for everyone else. I respect your writing, John but please don't mitigate Cameron's flaws.
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A large problem Joe has is the routes that our wideouts run are horrible! Several times Joe had 3 seconds to throw and nobody is open! Why is that! Hmm mm mm play calling is one! One person goes deep and that's Torrey 2! Boldin vs man to man is non existent cuz he can't get separation 3!
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If on the Browns 4th and 2 on the 28 yardline, the Browns would have run the ball for those 2 yds i think they might have gotten it....was that Cam's call to throw it???
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The title of this article is stupidity at its finest! The clear and obvious answer to our offensive inconsistency is CAM CAMERON!!!!! How many more times do we have all have to be shown and go through this? It starts with CAM CAMERON and trickles down to every level of our offense. If we had Todd Haley or Josh McDaniels or any other LEGIT offensive minded coach as our OC we wouldnt have to be consistently bringing up this stupid debate or see our offense struggling week in and week out.
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i'm watching the Ravens Postgame Live show and i like what Brent Harris just reported about the Ravens offense from Cleveland. He said; [i]"When you look at it, i don't know if anybody has the answers to what happened from those first two possessions through the rest of the game because it was clearly frustrating and [u][b]it was clear that the Ravens couldn't fix it! whatever the issue was they didn't fix it because they went 6 straight series in a 3&out situation there.[/b][/u]"[/i]

~Mili
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1. A couple years ago, we made it a high priority to reduce penalties - and we went from one of the most penalized teams in the league to one of the lowest. We need to reemphasize that policy. Being prideful is not the same as being proud - don't get into fights, be scrupulous about technique so our gains won't be called back, and we don't give away downs and distance.

2. In the first couple of series, it looked like we paid attention to what the Texans did on running offense: we pounded the run, but we also reversed and pitched-out with good success. Then when they plugged the line, we ran right back into it over and over. Did we forget that quickly? We definitely over-simplified our look/our attack. That made us easy to stop.

3. Cary and Jimmy still often seem to leave too big a cushion on the opposing receivers, who then can then catch, and get enough time to make a move to extend the play. Maybe they need to chase squirrels during practice while Joe throws balls at them.

Kudos to Torrey, Anquan and Dennis for some really great catches, and to Little Ray and Bernard for some fine rushing. (Didn't Ray used to catch passes once in a while? LOL - can't have everything, all the time.) Joe looked sharp, threw sharp. He could have thrown the ball away instead of taking sack(s?). Defense held 'em to FG's - okay, that's what you have to do, and expect the O to score TD's.

Finally, after watching Spittsberg beat the Giants, we have to come up with a plan to get to Big Ben, or they might have their evil way with us. Even decimated bytheir own injuries, they have some scary weapons.
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The Ravens did what ALOT of people craved for because of the loss in H town and that is to Run the Rock! Well, now what?! I LOVE the run game but, Im a Pass first kind of guy and I feel the Ravens cant keep "Run Run Run the boat" and expect to survive this season! Believe it or not B More "WE GOOD"!
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If what I saw on ESPN is true then I am officially one of the happiest people about our offensive situation. Sean Peyton will become a free agent coach after this season. We can fire the atrocious idiotic offensive coordinator we currently have in Cam Cameron at the end of season and replace him with one of the most genius offensive minds in professional football. I am officially on the SEAN PEYTON for Ravens OC campaign. With Sean Peyton and his creative and well knowledgable offensive play calling and execution and Jim Caldwell working with Joe another year (hopefully) we could be set up to be one of the most prolific offenses in the game. I pray to God that this happens!!! Maybe the answers to all our hopes and prayers for this Ravens offense will be answered...soon!
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from what i have seen this season flacco has progressed all that he is going to. he is as good as he is ever going to get. he is not an elite quarterback or even a franchise quarterback. which is why ozzie hasn't paid him. coaching is not the problem.
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[quote name='ravensykoh' timestamp='1352099401' post='1211020']
If what I saw on ESPN is true then I am officially one of the happiest people about our offensive situation. Sean Peyton will become a free agent coach after this season. We can fire the atrocious idiotic offensive coordinator we currently have in Cam Cameron at the end of season and replace him with one of the most genius offensive minds in professional football. I am officially on the SEAN PEYTON for Ravens OC campaign. With Sean Peyton and his creative and well knowledgable offensive play calling and execution and Jim Caldwell working with Joe another year (hopefully) we could be set up to be one of the most prolific offenses in the game. I pray to God that this happens!!! Maybe the answers to all our hopes and prayers for this Ravens offense will be answered...soon!
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that is what dreams are made of... imagination and dust... wake up please, 2/3 of the teams in the league will hire mr peyton as their top man in less than 2 seconds flat (and looking at the saints this year, i bet he'll get a pay from them that might match brees')
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I love how the Ravens ran the ball splitting carries between Rice and Pierce. I started to get all teary eyed because I was so happy lol. Now lets keep it up guys good balance fix the little issues and we'll be on our way to a Lombardi Trophy at the end.
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Bottom line, Flacco gets the TD and we win. End of story. You can gripe all you want because of the lull in the offense BUT we still won. Be thankful for that folks. I would rather have Flacco throw for 150 yds and win then have him throw for 300 and lose. Just take a look at some of the teams around the league. Their QB's are throwing the ball all over the place but can't win the game.
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Part of the problem is.... in the nfl the other teams actually bring a defense to attack what the offense is doing. I am curious fans are you ever happy about a win ? you react the same to a win or a loss.
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Pat Shurmur took a page out of Les Miles game plan. Cary Williams may not be the best cover but he has the knack for the ball. Torrey made a great grab. Joe rolling right or left was good. The better teams when they play well have enough good players if u will to cover the pass consistently. The Ravens if I recall correctly improved on Trent's rushing in the second half. Now the obvious question: why don't teams and specifically the Ravens adjust their offense or defense after success? I'm speaking of Ray's running problems in the second half. You suggested the Browns adjusted with a defender in the box. Why didn't the Ravens plan for a work around? it seems pretty basic like carrying a spare tire, at least logically speaking. It was great to see Bernard Pierce and Ray running good. Pierce rounding the end for the TD was magnifico. Anyone who watched Rothlesberger & Co it's going to be as hard as the Texans. These are not the worn out old players who started the season in Pitt. But with hope and grit the Ravens can get through it.
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