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[krrock10]

Anyone think that benching Ngata for a few weeks is a good idea. I dont know much about his MCL or shoulder injury, but it seems like we are running him into the ground by letting him play.

I know that people say "everyone is banged up this time of year", but it seems like Ngata is really hurting.

If we cant win without him for a few games, then we probably aren't playoff material anyway. I dont want to jeopardize the logitivity of his career over this. I get that he is tough, but frankly, we need to let him get healthy again.

Thoughts?

[Purple Punishment]

Ngata shouldnt have touched the field against the Texans. They should have pulled him as soon as we were getting romped. They didn't, and he got reinjured

[krrock10]

Agree completely. Big guys get worn down. Franky, Birk and others should have been benched once the game was out of hand.

[jaege]

As an armchair Monday morning coach, I would agree. I do not understand why they would not rest the guys who were hurt. But we do not really know everything, or really much of anything that goes on behind the scenes that lead to those decisions.

[Mr. Irrelevant]

We are coming off a bye, he should be fine.

[berad]

Haloti came back in the Texans game after he hobbled off - his own choice, obviously

[display name]

Haloti came back in the Texans game after he hobbled off - his own choice, obviously

But Harbs should've said no.
The game was over, and risking it was stupid.
Benching him for the next week depends on the seriousness of the injury, which we don't know.

[berad]

But Harbs should've said no.
The game was over, and risking it was stupid.
Benching him for the next week depends on the seriousness of the injury, which we don't know.

I agree, it did nothing for him to be out there but he's a competitor and must not have been feeling too bad.

[Crabcakes&Football]

I'd love to see him get healthy. But with him out our D-line may look even less respectable.

[rlh445]

Sometimes people forget that to everyone involved in the NFL, it's like going in to the office. If I was kinda sick but knew I could still perform but called out anyway, I"d feel horrible about it. I'm sure Ngata is the same way. He's been playing with Ray Lewis for way too long to sit out if he knew he could go. Joe did it a couple years ago when his ribs were all banged up, Mason played with a dislocated shoulder, etc. It's just the way the Ravens have always been. I'm proud of him for playing through whatever injury he can, provided he actually feels like he can go. Obviously, if it were something like he would break something if he did I'm sure the staff wouldn't let him play. I mean, it's football guys. We could sit him for a couple of games 'till his shoulder healed up and he could go out and break his foot or something. You can't hide your players like that.

It's like when people got all angry at Harbaugh for putting Jimmy Smith in as a special teamer during which he got hurt his first game playing; but that's football. Nobody could have seen it coming, and it doesn't change the fact that he still had to play and unfortunately got hurt. He came back and what's the first thing he did? Play special teams. Professional!

Edited by rlh445, 29 October 2012 - 12:56 PM.

[sliceanddic3]

Anyone think that benching Ngata for a few weeks is a good idea. I dont know much about his MCL or shoulder injury, but it seems like we are running him into the ground by letting him play.

I know that people say "everyone is banged up this time of year", but it seems like Ngata is really hurting.

If we cant win without him for a few games, then we probably aren't playoff material anyway. I dont want to jeopardize the logitivity of his career over this. I get that he is tough, but frankly, we need to let him get healthy again.

Thoughts?

That right there made me not want to read the rest of your post. The doctors know what they're doing!!!!

Edited by sliceanddic3, 29 October 2012 - 12:56 PM.

[The Raven]

Do you want our defense to be even worse than it already is? If Ngata can, and wants to play, then he should. Even an injured Ngata is better than what we have behind him.

[BloodRaven]

Give Tyson and Hall some reps. If the defense is falling apart we might as well see what else we've got.

[omar586]

Anyone think that benching Ngata for a few weeks is a good idea. I dont know much about his MCL or shoulder injury, but it seems like we are running him into the ground by letting him play.

I know that people say "everyone is banged up this time of year", but it seems like Ngata is really hurting.

If we cant win without him for a few games, then we probably aren't playoff material anyway. I dont want to jeopardize the logitivity of his career over this. I get that he is tough, but frankly, we need to let him get healthy again.

Thoughts?

i agree on this one, they should sit Ngata and reed for that matter, to heal their injuries for playoffs.

[The Raven]

i agree on this one, they should sit Ngata and reed for that matter, to heal their injuries for playoffs.

Disagree with this line of thinking.

Yeah, we're 5-2. Yeah, we're second in the AFC and first in the division.

No, the playoffs are NOT guaranteed. Our team has not been playing like a 5-2 team. It is more than possible for this team to melt down. I'm being realistic here. Why would we rest players for the playoffs when it's not guaranteed we'll make the playoffs? We'd have a lesser shot of making the playoffs without Ngata and Reed.

I'm not saying we won't make the playoffs, rather we shouldn't act like we are automatically in the playoffs.

[omar586]

Disagree with this line of thinking.

Yeah, we're 5-2. Yeah, we're second in the AFC and first in the division.

No, the playoffs are NOT guaranteed. Our team has not been playing like a 5-2 team. It is more than possible for this team to melt down. I'm being realistic here. Why would we rest players for the playoffs when it's not guaranteed we'll make the playoffs? We'd have a lesser shot of making the playoffs without Ngata and Reed.

I'm not saying we won't make the playoffs, rather we shouldn't act like we are automatically in the playoffs.

i was thinking resting them for the 2 upcoming weeks vs browns and raiders, lingering injuries to Ngata and reed could end their season or effect their play.

[Purple Punishment]

Lets trade for Julian Edleman, hes played some DE and LT along with WR, CB, and can kick FGs too....

....before the flames....its a joke

[beasy2487]

Disagree with this line of thinking.

Yeah, we're 5-2. Yeah, we're second in the AFC and first in the division.

No, the playoffs are NOT guaranteed. Our team has not been playing like a 5-2 team. It is more than possible for this team to melt down. I'm being realistic here. Why would we rest players for the playoffs when it's not guaranteed we'll make the playoffs? We'd have a lesser shot of making the playoffs without Ngata and Reed.

I'm not saying we won't make the playoffs, rather we shouldn't act like we are automatically in the playoffs.

Agree, to a point. I think if there was one game we could ease up and chalk up the L (before even going into the game) it was against the Texans. I would've been all for benching Ngata for that game if we approached it that way. Losing Lewis and Webb the week before, and given all of the motivation the entire Houston community had to beat us in that game, no one would've been (or was) surprised by a blowout. However, if we entered that game with the mentality that we would field the best effort then the best players needed to play.

[krrock10]

That right there made me not want to read the rest of your post. The doctors know what they're doing!!!!

Yep, those doctors sure know what they are doing. Im all for "tough guys", so lets have Ngata go out there and blow his knee out because he was too tough to admit that he shouldnt be playing.

Just because guys have pride and a high pain threshold, doesnt mean all warning signs should be avoided.

[berad]

Yep, those doctors sure know what they are doing. Im all for "tough guys", so lets have Ngata go out there and blow his knee out because he was too tough to admit that he shouldnt be playing.

Just because guys have pride and a high pain threshold, doesnt mean all warning signs should be avoided.

They don't?

These are the same guys who get Sizzle on the field in 5 months - were you chiding them then?