POLL: Bye Week Changes

[The Prestige]

Is the offense struggling because of the line and the fact that Flacco is a much better passer when he has time to go deep?

Is the defense struggling because of injuries and the fact that Pees is new and still figuring things out?

Or, do one of these guys have to go?

Is it time for a panic move? Can you make a substantial change and it not be a panic move?

Discuss.

I voted for Jim Caldwell, because it looks like our run plays are pretty simplistic, so I don't think it would be that hard to adapt to an offense that should have a few much-needed new wrinkles in both the ground and air games while its more striking difference will be in what gets called when.

I'd also be willing to trade as high as a 2nd-rounder to get a quality defensive player to help create more negative plays for opposing offenses (a safety that can blitz and cover TE's, an OLB who can force fumbles). Maybe Christian Thompson can be that extra pass-rusher. Ultimately, I think Caldwell is the move that would help this team the most.

[rlh445]

I think you need more options on there. Like 'Trade Cary to Texans for JJ Watt' and 'Trade Tyrod Taylor to Bengals for AJ Green'.

[jimmypowder]

[quote name='rlh445' timestamp='1351029937' post='1202072']
I think you need more options on there. Like 'Trade Cary to Texans for JJ Watt' and 'Trade Tyrod Taylor to Bengals for AJ Green'.
[/quote]

The Texans and Bengals are chomping at the bit to make these trades !

[SecretAgentMan]

OLine isnt the issue, the issue is the DL. Oh and Fire Cam and Pees.

[BirdWatcher]

I sure hope someone will send us a starting caliber OL for a 3rd rounder.

[The Prestige]

[quote name='rlh445' timestamp='1351029937' post='1202072']
I think you need more options on there. Like 'Trade Cary to Texans for JJ Watt' and 'Trade Tyrod Taylor to Bengals for AJ Green'.
[/quote]

Are you saying these options are all dumb ones?

[ravens rule]

This is one year that I think we should make an in-season trade. By the way when is the deadline?

[RAVEN63]

[i]Ground and pound runnig game will set up the pass.[/i]
[i] Blits the heck outta everyone ,why not?[/i]
[i]d cant get much worse.[/i]
[i]Get rid of cam...[/i]

[Tank 92]

[quote name='The Prestige' timestamp='1351032398' post='1202106']
Are you saying these options are all dumb ones?
[/quote]

They are not dumb, it's just none of them will happen, including "no major changes".

A major change does need to occur, but it will happen with the squad we have. EVERYONE needs to pay attention to their job and play like they want to win on EVERY down. There's the talent here to compete, they just need to compete!

You haven't seen the "fire in the eyes" attitude very often this year. It's almost like they have been pacing themselves, looking ahead to a very tough run of games that will determine the success or failure of the season. Getting to 5-2 playing like pansies a lot of the time is something to be thankful for. Hopefully the Team realizes their fortunate position and takes advantage of it. 12 or 13 games to the prize has to look better and provide more motivation to play like your hair is on fire than the 19 or 20 game season viewed in September.

I don't know, maybe this is just a pipe dream............

[rlh445]

[quote name='The Prestige' timestamp='1351032398' post='1202106']
Are you saying these options are all dumb ones?
[/quote]

Not at all! I was more pointing out that all of those choices are about as likely to happen right now as the options I wanted added. I figured if you're gonna dream, why not do it BIG?!

[quote name='jimmypowder' timestamp='1351031288' post='1202091']
The Texans and Bengals are chomping at the bit to make these trades !
[/quote]

You know it jimmy!

[gabefergy]

Definitely a no to firing coordinators...that just doesnt end well.

A trade for some help on defense ( dline in particular) would be helpful.

[SecretAgentMan]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1351035655' post='1202148']
Definitely a no to firing coordinators...that just doesnt end well.

A trade for some help on defense ( dline in particular) would be helpful.
[/quote]
Who wants Solia? Jk we will never get him. NT is our biggest need.

[Militant X 1]

unleash our $40 Million Dollar Man...and get back to doing what we do best....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2vx5SlLc8k&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2tQ35Ths38

~Mili

[K-Dog]

Black unis for every game!!!!!!!!
Can some one say UNDEFEATED !?!?!?!

[display name]

[quote name='K-Dog' timestamp='1351038712' post='1202198']
Black unis for every game!!!!!!!!
Can some one say UNDEFEATED !?!?!?!
[/quote]
They are very intimidating, and teams seem hesitant. I want us to wear them three times a year, the max allowed for alternates, though Harbs spoiled three great chances.
All these choices are lame. I say worry about them in the offseason.
Oh but I would like to cut Kemo and pick up Kelly Gregg. He can't be any worse, right?
I would like to see Tyrod involved more. He seems to have some real talent and I want to see it used.
[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1351031724' post='1202096']
OLine isnt the issue, the issue is the DL. Oh and Fire Cam and Pees.
[/quote]
Bring it back up in the offseason and we'll chat. I may even agree with you at least partly then, but I don't think now is the time.
Oh and after the game our O-line had you come out and say they aren't a problem. I'm sorry, but that's just blatantly wrong.

[JO_75]

You also forgot the option to trade with the Chiefs that is pending they get the first overall pick, we send them Joe and allows us to get Geno Smith or Matt Barkley.

Fire Cam!

[JO_75]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1351035655' post='1202148']
Definitely a no to firing coordinators...that just doesnt end well.

A trade for some help on defense ( dline in particular) would be helpful.
[/quote]

Brian Billick did it in 2006 and fired our OC.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1351041257' post='1202223']


Brian Billick did it in 2006 and fired our OC.
[/quote]
Did that end well? Nooo. Our offense crapped the bed in the playoffs.

[ChrisRyan]

Cam needs to be gone. But I think doing it mid-season is not the right way to do it. Not saying Jim Caldwell couldn't do the job... but he's never been an O-cord before.

My ideal situation is the second the Chargers fire Turner we throw all kinds of money his way to come here. Even if that means Firing cam 10 min before a playoff game starts.

[Roveh]

I probably wouldn't make any of these changes right now. But if I had to pick one, it would be to get a new offensive coordinator. This past game reminded me of the Jacksonville game last year. The offense was so stagnant, it was painful to watch. With the offense they have, they should never struggle this much to move the ball.

[Purple Punishment]

McKinnie back at LT, Oher back at RT, Osemele at LG and our line is fixed

[The Raven]

[quote name='Purple Punishment' timestamp='1351055241' post='1202391']
McKinnie back at LT, Oher back at RT, Osemele at LG and our line is fixed
[/quote]

Because it makes so much sense to move Oher AGAIN when he's actually having a solid year so far.

[msufan]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1351085885' post='1202475']


Because it makes so much sense to move Oher AGAIN when he's actually having a solid year so far.
[/quote] that doesn't matter to ppl they have made up their mind on Oher and nothing will change it.

[msufan]

I think we should put Caldwell in as OC it could not be any worse than what we already have.

[Neal Could Block the SUN!!]

We have the tools, just not being used correctly.

Why Ray Rice is not following Vonta Leach play after play is beyond me. Just one more example of Cameron being incompetent. If we get that freight train rolling, then move into a pass balanced mode we can right this mess. We came out in week 1 and caught the world by surprise. Sadly, the world made tapes and watched our habits. Cam just never got the message.

[billick]

Look up the Ravens record. I believe it is 5-2. Now is not the time to panic.

We need to drop some salary from the D, and spend money on the Left side, yes, Left side, of the O line.

Ohh, and sign #5 to a 10 year deal.

[Purple Punishment]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1351085885' post='1202475']
Because it makes so much sense to move Oher AGAIN when he's actually having a solid year so far.
[/quote]

Not about Oher playing bad. Its about getting the best line we could possibly have

[Larryterri]

I just think HARBAUGH needs to step up and tell Cam that we have Joe Flacco, not Joe Montana at QB, we were successful when we supplemented the run with our passing game, we suck the other way around, halfway through the season can we learn this?

As far as the defense, I dunno, I think we got stingy in the free agency and its coming back to haunt us now. Not sure if we can fix it. They definitly aren't the kind of defense that can stay on the field 80% of the game due to the O playing buttcheeks football.

[The Raven]

[quote name='Purple Punishment' timestamp='1351093281' post='1202559']
Not about Oher playing bad. Its about getting the best line we could possibly have
[/quote]

So we can have a LT that not only has huge issues with speed rushers, but also is completely unable to run block effectively. I see your point. Oher has his fair share of issues with speed rushers (though to a lesser extent this season) but at least he can run block at an elite level.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='Purple Punishment' timestamp='1351093281' post='1202559']
Not about Oher playing bad. Its about getting the best line we could possibly have
[/quote]

I dont think having McKinnie on the field is in anyway a good thing. I hoped he changed his attitude coming into this season, but after watching him in his limited role I firmly believe he is a wasted roster spot and only kept around because we dont have a back-up LT if Oher were to go down.

I would rather see KO moved to guard and see what Jah Reid can do at RT. If he is healthy and practicing well I think that would be an improvement.