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[BMORElegacy]

The idea that our defense is "old", "aging", and "slow" has been tossed around the last couple of years and has really started to pick up steam with their woes lately. But to say that the Ravens defense is "old and broken" is only half true. There is clearly something wrong and broken but they are far from old. Here is an article from the summer that highlights my point: http://articles.balt...courtney-upshaw

In essence, the experts love to make generalizations that our team's D is old and that is why they're giving up 400 yards a game. The reality is that there are glaring issues with regards to stopping the run and pass but it has absolutely nothing to do with an aging defense (unlike the numerous starters over 30 for Pittsburgh).

Yes we have the big names like Ray and Ed that are up there in age but the vast majority of our starters are young.

I just hate it when these people expose their ignorance and then proceed to act like they know what they're talking about with regards to our team. Yes, there are issues. But age is not one of them. If anything, our defense is too young and inexperienced.

That is all. I'm just fed up of hearing these half truths being parroted throughout the various sports shows. If you're going to present to an audience that you're an expert at least exert minimal effort and come up with an original thought that has some fact behind it.

[ravensfan160]

You know what I sorta wish our problems on defense were that we are old. But you are right, with Ray out the only "old" guy is Reed. The only other player 30 years old is Suggs.

Our defense isn't old it's just bad.

[PurpleReign92]

Dean Peas hidden Agenda

I think every coordinator in the league should swear an oath to the team because it seems like Dean Peas is still coaching for the Pats..

[BMORElegacy]

Dean Peas hidden Agenda

I think every coordinator in the league should swear an oath to the team because it seems like Dean Peas is still coaching for the Pats..

What are you talking about?

[berad]

Rodney Harrison said it on Sunday Night, when we were without Ray. But he's a clown.The only person over 30 on our D now is Reed. Is Suggs 30+?

[PurpleReign92]

What are you talking about?

What I'm a talking about Pats send spy's and they send more spy's and they win a championship..

[arnie_uk]

What I'm a talking about Pats send spy's and they send more spy's and they win a championship..

This is the purplereign i know... expletive

[ravensfan160]

Rodney Harrison said it on Sunday Night, when we were without Ray. But he's a clown.The only person over 30 on our D now is Reed. Is Suggs 30+?

Yeah Suggs just turned 30.

[berad]

Yeah Suggs just turned 30.

Darn, then two old slobs weighing us down

[ravens88]

i just hope this is a lack of proper playcalling and scheme and not talent... but im starting to lean talent unfortunately.. when your ranked 26th in total D thats just bad...

[Moderator 3]

We should have a "Myth Busters" thread. Day after day I read the same false crap about our team because people just parrot what they heard or read somewhere.

First myth to bust: Michael Oher false starts at least once a game. SO untrue.

[display name]

Kelly Gregg is available in free agency!

[display name]

Rodney Harrison said it on Sunday Night, when we were without Ray. But he's a clown.The only person over 30 on our D now is Reed. Is Suggs 30+?

Kemouteau is also 33. He sucks.

[horus13corvineus]

We should have a "Myth Busters" thread. Day after day I read the same false crap about our team because people just parrot what they heard or read somewhere.

First myth to bust: Michael Oher false starts at least once a game. SO untrue.

yeah, but when there's a game and he does it... he really goes for them lol

[ravensfan160]

Kemouteau is also 33. He sucks.

And he beat out Cody. What does that say about him. Ouch!

[CalvinSmoke]

Inexperience and lack of discipline killed us against the Texans. Especially amongst our linebackers (Excluding Suggs of course) I saw countless plays in which the young man would chase the play instead of keeping his pursuit angle and then got cut back on.

Or they dont stay in their hole and the Back would just bounce to where the line-backer was supposed to be. Pees actually has these guys in the right places sometimes... These young men are just making the wrong decisions. Certainly getting a baptism by fire

[The Raven]

Dean Peas hidden Agenda

I think every coordinator in the league should swear an oath to the team because it seems like Dean Peas is still coaching for the Pats..

Oh good you're back. We've missed you and your insightful posts!

[msufan]

.If anything, our defense is too young and inexperienced.

that is our biggest problem is inexperienced.

Edited by msufan, 23 October 2012 - 10:51 AM.

[frozen joe flacco fan]

I submit one of the main problems with our defense is the lack of continuity at the Defensive Coordinator Position. Because we have had so many different coordinators, starting with Marvin Lewis, it is difficult for the inexperienced players like Jimmy Smith to learn one system. It is also easier for the teams we play to learn our defensive tendencies when our coaches leave and become head coaches elsewhere. With all due respect to Marvin Lewis (head coach), Mike Nolan, Rex Ryan (head coach), and Chuck Pagano (head coach), Ray Lewis has been our defensive coach since our Super Bowl season. The players should be commended for sustaining their high level of play during such a period of constant change. Make no mistake about it. The success of the Pittsburgh Steelers' defense is directly attributable to their 75 year old defensive coordinator, Dick Lebeau. I will reserve judgement on Dean Pees' success or lack of it until I see how we respond to the adversity we are currently experiencing on the defensive side of the ball. Excluding the safety and pick six TD given up by our offense on Sunday, our once proud defensive unit surrendered 34 points. It is time for the youthful, inexperienced next men up to grow up and to adopt the mantra --- "If it is to be, it is up to me." It is time for some of the younger players to step up or move on to other teams. The organization's loyalty to the players is laudable but loyalty works both ways. Ed Reed plays every game like it will be his last. The younger players should take a page from his book.

[display name]

I say we dump Kemouteau and pick Kelly Gregg back up.