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#1 nextgen_RavensFan

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:26 PM

The great Oz thread...

So lets look at the great Oz and his picks since 2009 shall we and compare them to what we have lost. Lets see how great Ozzie is. This should be fun huh..

In 2009 we get the following:
Michael Oher: Loss
Paul Kruger: Loss
Ladarius Webb: awesome
Jason Phillips: Loss
Davon Drew: Loss
Cedric Peerman: Loss

! out of 6 aint bad right, LMAO

2010
sergio kindle: Loss
terrance cody: Loss
ed dickson: Loss drops to many passes
dennis pitta: good
david reed: Loss
arthur jones: Loss
ramon harewood: so so

2 out of 7 aint bad

2011

Jimmy smith: Loss so far
torrey smith: excellent
Jah Reid: Loss
Tandon Doss: Good
Cjykie Brown: unknown
Pernell Mcphee: OK
Tyrod Taylor: Unknown
Anthony Allen: Unfinished project

4 out of 7 aint bad

2012
Courtney Upshaw: unknown
Kelechi Osemele: so far a loss
Bernard Pierce: Loss
Gino Gradkowski: Unknown
Christian Thompson: Loss
Asa Jackson: unknown
Tommy Streeter: Loss
Deangelo Tyson: Loss

I am not seeing the Oz's magic here for defensive players ? He had 2 very good drafts which i can only assume was luck now that i hav etracked his record from 2009 until now. How many defensive guys in this list actually are seeing playing time today on our team ? Yup, you now see the same thing i see. Oz was just lucky and the trust was given in hopes and faith. He is no wizard, he is or was just lucky.

He trades down to much, he gambles to save some money and yet here we are still in the hole and will need to scrape to be able to afford our QB next year and that is without improving our already terrible defense.

Sure we will be able to throw the ball but we will not be able to stop any defense from beating flacco senseless. What a wizard huh. I lost all respect for the Oz.

We might as well put names in a hat and draw them, he does not know any more then me or you. It might sting but it is the truth. In Oz we should not trust.

I could go back even further but it just gets worse and wanted to be somewhat up beat but lets just say your trust is misguided friends.
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:30 PM

The great Oz thread...

So lets look at the great Oz and his picks since 2009 shall we and compare them to what we have lost. Lets see how great Ozzie is. This should be fun huh..

In 2009 we get the following:
Michael Oher: Solid
Paul Kruger: Loss
Ladarius Webb: awesome
Jason Phillips: Loss
Davon Drew: Loss
Cedric Peerman: Loss

! out of 6 aint bad right, LMAO

2010
sergio kindle: Loss
terrance cody: Decent
ed dickson: Loss drops to many passes
dennis pitta: great
david reed: Loss
arthur jones: Loss
ramon harewood: so so

2 out of 7 aint bad

2011

Jimmy smith: Two Bad Games
torrey smith: excellent
Jah Reid: TBD
Tandon Doss: Good
Cjykie Brown: unknown
Pernell Mcphee: OK
Tyrod Taylor: Unknown
Anthony Allen: Unfinished project

4 out of 7 aint bad

2012
Courtney Upshaw: unknown
Kelechi Osemele: TBD
Bernard Pierce: TBD
Gino Gradkowski: Unknown
Christian Thompson: TBD
Asa Jackson: unknown
Tommy Streeter: TBD
Deangelo Tyson: TBD

I am not seeing the Oz's magic here for defensive players ? He had 2 very good drafts which i can only assume was luck now that i hav etracked his record from 2009 until now. How many defensive guys in this list actually are seeing playing time today on our team ? Yup, you now see the same thing i see. Oz was just lucky and the trust was given in hopes and faith. He is no wizard, he is or was just lucky.

He trades down to much, he gambles to save some money and yet here we are still in the hole and will need to scrape to be able to afford our QB next year and that is without improving our already terrible defense.

Sure we will be able to throw the ball but we will not be able to stop any defense from beating flacco senseless. What a wizard huh. I lost all respect for the Oz.

We might as well put names in a hat and draw them, he does not know any more then me or you. It might sting but it is the truth. In Oz we should not trust.

I could go back even further but it just gets worse and wanted to be somewhat up beat but lets just say your trust is misguided friends.

Shut this down before I go nuclear please. I fixed it to what it truly is.

Edited by Mr. Irrelevant, 21 October 2012 - 03:31 PM.

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:33 PM

I think the major problem we face during draft time is that we are too good of a team. We go so far in the post season, we always seem to get our picks at the end of the first round where most of the play makers are gone. Anything after the first round is a crap shoot...some turn out...some don't. So do we want to go back to a losing team with great picks or keep winning and hoping to luck out with the way we have been doing it the last four years?.
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:34 PM

How is KO a loss?
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:35 PM

I bet this would look a lot different if it wasn't posted minutes after a blowout LOL :th_snapoutofit:
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:36 PM

I bet this would look a lot different if it wasn't posted minutes after a blowout LOL :th_snapoutofit:

This thread imo is pointless. The only real bust we have had is Sergio.
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:40 PM

Simple concept guys you dont like what someone post, dont read it or reply! Plain and simple.
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:42 PM

Mr Irrelevant no need to fix it. I grabbed the info from NFL.com and which players am i wrong with ? The Oz's pics have been horrible on defense and to say they did not see this coming would be a joke. To let top players go and expect "the next man up" crap to magically bring up the next pro bowl player is just crazy. We have had very few defensive players come in and play like a raven should. Or else why do we have the situation we are in right now. If it were not fur Suggs we would not even have a decent guy to cover the edge or pass rush. But i guess Cody, Kruger and company are just fine right ?

We have picked great on offense but without a line to protect Joe we cannot even get a pass off.

Where is that great defensive player after dropping back in the draft time in time again ?

Who is that guy who can actually tackle ? Havent seen him have you ?

So where am i wrong and ahead of time thank you for taking the time to correct me.
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:43 PM

Where were you with this drivel the last 6 weeks?

Or the last four years when we have been the only team in the league to make it to the postseason every single season?
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:43 PM

This thread imo is pointless. The only real bust we have had is Sergio.


Cody is a Gem buddy thanks for pointing that out and Kruger what a game changer he is..
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:45 PM

Where were you with this drivel the last 6 weeks?

Or the last four years when we have been the only team in the league to make it to the postseason every single season?


I was here, i tried to just sit back and enjoy the game and even apologized for my critical judgmental attitude. But wow to the game. I do not see a play off team and yet some folks still think Superbowl.
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:45 PM

Cody is a Gem buddy thanks for pointing that out and Kruger what a game changer he is..

Cody is a run stuffer, and has been better than Kemo. I kept Kruger
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:46 PM

Ha ha ha. God you made me laugh
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:48 PM

Ozzie sucks and the Ravens have been to the playoffs 4 striaght years, 5-2 this and regradless of what happens in other games today will have the 2nd best record in the AFC.

I'll take it.
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:51 PM

Ha ha ha. God you made me laugh

Yep, me too lol.
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:55 PM

You expect all of our players to be stars. It doesnt work that way. Kruger is a solid LB, and Cody is a solid DT. Not game changers, but important, was JJ a game changer, no just a solid LB.
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:58 PM

But wow to the game. I do not see a play off team and yet some folks still think Superbowl.


i wonder if texans fans said the same thing last week.
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:59 PM

In what world are KO and Pierce losses?

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 04:00 PM

Kruger has good games and bad games.

So wait, it anyone who isn't Suggs, Ngata, Reed, Webb or Lewis a bust? If that's your criteria, you're going to be very unfulfilled in your fandom.
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 04:00 PM

Meh, horrible game. You wanna question Oz, fine with me but do it at a later date..emotions running high right now!
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