Post Injury-bug Roster Moves

[DocMartin]

Here is a word from Doc Martin, imaginery defensive coordinator
1) Ngata needs to rest for at least 2 weeks and rehab
2) If E.J. Henderson available, sign him now and activate him for this game, he may be the best ILB in the mix next to McClain, who is also banged up.
Ellerbe, McClelan need to step up, Nigel Carr is not the answer at this time
3) C.Williams and J.Smith at CB, put O.Brown as nickle, has been very good. Play tight, no more 10 yard cushion, Cary!
4) D-Line time to step up, put up or shut up. Ngata rests, Cody is in, Jones and McPhee on edges, activate Hall into rotation.
5) Outside LB's Kruger & Upshaw - TACKLING DRILL all week long. Stay in your gaps, find ball carrier and tackle him immediately. No chasing the runners, give 1 or 2 yards on play, but not 6 or 7. Be smart, communicate before rushing the passer, someone has to cover the hole.
6) Buy a dinner to Jacoby Jones for bailing you out in the last game on a great kick return, that was a THIING OF BEAUTY !!!
Win, Lose or Tie, Raven Till I die!

[omar586]

we do need to give Ngata time to rest and heal his injury, we need him in playoff.

[The Prestige]

[quote name='raybaby' timestamp='1350274282' post='1190581']
Philly? Browns? Chiefs?
[/quote]

Philly felt comfortable sending extra blitzers because the refs were allowing them to tug on Ravens WR's. They would have dropped 30 on the Ravens if Jones had not been erroneously flagged for OPI.

I should have specified that no one has stopped the skill players, not necessarily the offense as a whole. In the Chiefs game, play selection, not having the ball, and execution felt like bigger issues than what the defense was doing to then.

I have SUPREME CERTITUDE, CONFIDENCE and FAITH that the wide receivers, tight ends and running backs can win one-on-one match-ups and snag 50-50 balls. BELIEVE!

[uhhhh]

No McAdoo, no McBean, a banged up Ngata. There's not a lot to fall back on and Kemo isn't cutting it.

[raybaby]

[quote name='The Prestige' timestamp='1350445782' post='1193227']
Philly felt comfortable sending extra blitzers because the refs were allowing them to tug on Ravens WR's. They would have dropped 30 on the Ravens if Jones had not been erroneously flagged for OPI.

I should have specified that no one has stopped the skill players, not necessarily the offense as a whole. In the Chiefs game, play selection, not having the ball, and execution felt like bigger issues than what the defense was doing to then.

I have SUPREME CERTITUDE, CONFIDENCE and FAITH that the wide receivers, tight ends and running backs can win one-on-one match-ups and snag 50-50 balls. BELIEVE!
[/quote]

Lol I like your attitude and I agree with your last statement.. I think this offense can beat any defense in the league.. it's putting them in the best position to do so consistently is what is iffy to me. But here's to that getting better as the season progresses! Hopefully?!

[ClintLB8]

Ok, so I'm waiting for arnie_uk to roast me on this but I'm going to put it out there anyways.. If we are looking at a trade, then MAYBE, just maybe we should look to the Raiders to see what they would want for Rolando McClain. This does make sense in several areas.
[b]One[/b], the Raiders are not attached to McClain in any way due to a new coaching staff who didn't draft McClain, his troubles off the field, and his lack of production as a 4-3 middle linebacker. They have already started moving in a different direction from what I've read.
[b]Two[/b], I feel like McClain could be had for a mid to late round pick (maybe a 5th) because he hasn't lived up to being taken at #8 overall thus far and this could end up being a steal for that.
[b]Three[/b], I believe that McClain's lack of production could be from him playing in a system that doesn't fit his talents. He is a 3-4 inside linebacker who is a thumper and sheds blocks. McClain has good speed but not elite and has a hard time playing sideline to sideline as a 4-3 MLB. He excelled at playing inside linebacker in a 3-4 in college and should be given a chance in that defense.
[b]Four[/b], McClain's off the field problems could POTENTIALLY be eliminated with the presence of people such as Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Bernard Pollard, Haloti Ngata, Terrance Cody, etc. on our defense. McClain has already started trying to take the steps to get his life turned around and as long as he is willing.. having positive players such as the previously listed surrounding him could do him a lot of good.

Now, why does he fit in to what we need..

[b]One[/b], he is a big-bodied inside linebacker who is much better at stopping the run than excelling in pass coverage. We need a run stopping, block shedding inside linebacker to come in and bang some heads. I honestly see McClain providing (as far as skill, not leadership) what Ray was giving us. A inside linebacker that can stop the run (I believe at this point McClain would do a better job), a guy that can rush the passer from the middle (McClain had 5.5 sacks last year doing that and is very good at it), but will be some what of a liability in pass coverage.
[b]Two[/b], he fits in for exactly what we need him for. He can come in immediately and contribute while Ray Lewis is out for this season. Once (if) Ray plays next year, then that will actually probably be while Rolando is serving jail time or suspensions if he is indeed given any. That way, we have already filled the void left by McClain with Lewis and then after the 3 months of jail time is up then Rolando can continue on with his business.
[b]Three[/b], Josh McDaniels isn't the best coach out there but he did say that Rolando McClain was the most football intelligent person he has ever been around. Rolando has it.. he understands the game and he can read and dissect offenses. The Ravens could use a guy like that who can continue to be effective in the middle.

Overall, I think if the Raiders would deal Rolando for a 5th or maybe even a 4th (DeMeco Ryans might have set a precedent), then I believe he would be worth it. Who knows, if he can transition smoothly into the 3-4 (which I feel better suits his skills), then maybe the Ravens could find a Ray Lewis replacement with a mid round pick who could end up living up to his once top-10 selection. Rolando is young and I honestly believe he is maturing and can help this defense.

One thing I do not get is why teams like the Raiders and the Patriots are taking true 3-4 inside linebackers like McClain and Hightower and trying to turn them into things that won't allow them to maximize their talents (McClain as a 4-3 MLB and Hightower as a 4-3 SLB). I honestly believe that's why neither have lived up to their hype thus far (even though it's still SUPER early for Hightower).

Arnie_uk, take it easy on me. I've put a lot of thought into this and I may be way off.. but in at least made sense in my head.

[The Prestige]

[quote name='ClintLB8' timestamp='1350457872' post='1193276']
Overall, I think if the Raiders would deal Rolando for a 5th or maybe even a 4th (DeMeco Ryans might have set a precedent), then I believe he would be worth it. Who knows, if he can transition smoothly into the 3-4 (which I feel better suits his skills), then maybe the Ravens could find a Ray Lewis replacement with a mid round pick who could end up living up to his once top-10 selection. Rolando is young and I honestly believe he is maturing and can help this defense.
[/quote]
I would look to the draft. This is a good crop of MLB's, and McClain just isn't a leader near the way Ray is. Perhaps Pollard takes on the Lewis role if Ray Ray doesn't come back. Even if the Ravens aren't interested in having a leader at MLB, they can still win a Super Bowl without a trade and I'll be watching college games for some of these MLB prospects. If it's crucial to the Dean Pees system, maybe the Ravens can trade up to get the best one in April.

[ClintLB8]

[quote name='The Prestige' timestamp='1350782739' post='1195941']

I would look to the draft. This is a good crop of MLB's, and McClain just isn't a leader near the way Ray is. Perhaps Pollard takes on the Lewis role if Ray Ray doesn't come back. Even if the Ravens aren't interested in having a leader at MLB, they can still win a Super Bowl without a trade and I'll be watching college games for some of these MLB prospects. If it's crucial to the Dean Pees system, maybe the Ravens can trade up to get the best one in April.
[/quote]

After looking tonight, I wouldn't mind a switch to a 4-3 and draft CJ Mosley to play MLB. That guy makes plays.. Bama player or not.

[BloodRaven]

[quote name='ClintLB8' timestamp='1350457872' post='1193276']
Ok, so I'm waiting for arnie_uk to roast me on this but I'm going to put it out there anyways.. If we are looking at a trade, then MAYBE, just maybe we should look to the Raiders to see what they would want for Rolando McClain. This does make sense in several areas.
[b]One[/b], the Raiders are not attached to McClain in any way due to a new coaching staff who didn't draft McClain, his troubles off the field, and his lack of production as a 4-3 middle linebacker. They have already started moving in a different direction from what I've read.
[b]Two[/b], I feel like McClain could be had for a mid to late round pick (maybe a 5th) because he hasn't lived up to being taken at #8 overall thus far and this could end up being a steal for that.
[b]Three[/b], I believe that McClain's lack of production could be from him playing in a system that doesn't fit his talents. He is a 3-4 inside linebacker who is a thumper and sheds blocks. McClain has good speed but not elite and has a hard time playing sideline to sideline as a 4-3 MLB. He excelled at playing inside linebacker in a 3-4 in college and should be given a chance in that defense.
[b]Four[/b], McClain's off the field problems could POTENTIALLY be eliminated with the presence of people such as Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Bernard Pollard, Haloti Ngata, Terrance Cody, etc. on our defense. McClain has already started trying to take the steps to get his life turned around and as long as he is willing.. having positive players such as the previously listed surrounding him could do him a lot of good.

Now, why does he fit in to what we need..

[b]One[/b], he is a big-bodied inside linebacker who is much better at stopping the run than excelling in pass coverage. We need a run stopping, block shedding inside linebacker to come in and bang some heads. I honestly see McClain providing (as far as skill, not leadership) what Ray was giving us. A inside linebacker that can stop the run (I believe at this point McClain would do a better job), a guy that can rush the passer from the middle (McClain had 5.5 sacks last year doing that and is very good at it), but will be some what of a liability in pass coverage.
[b]Two[/b], he fits in for exactly what we need him for. He can come in immediately and contribute while Ray Lewis is out for this season. Once (if) Ray plays next year, then that will actually probably be while Rolando is serving jail time or suspensions if he is indeed given any. That way, we have already filled the void left by McClain with Lewis and then after the 3 months of jail time is up then Rolando can continue on with his business.
[b]Three[/b], Josh McDaniels isn't the best coach out there but he did say that Rolando McClain was the most football intelligent person he has ever been around. Rolando has it.. he understands the game and he can read and dissect offenses. The Ravens could use a guy like that who can continue to be effective in the middle.

Overall, I think if the Raiders would deal Rolando for a 5th or maybe even a 4th (DeMeco Ryans might have set a precedent), then I believe he would be worth it. Who knows, if he can transition smoothly into the 3-4 (which I feel better suits his skills), then maybe the Ravens could find a Ray Lewis replacement with a mid round pick who could end up living up to his once top-10 selection. Rolando is young and I honestly believe he is maturing and can help this defense.

One thing I do not get is why teams like the Raiders and the Patriots are taking true 3-4 inside linebackers like McClain and Hightower and trying to turn them into things that won't allow them to maximize their talents (McClain as a 4-3 MLB and Hightower as a 4-3 SLB). I honestly believe that's why neither have lived up to their hype thus far (even though it's still SUPER early for Hightower).

Arnie_uk, take it easy on me. I've put a lot of thought into this and I may be way off.. but in at least made sense in my head.
[/quote]

This makes sense in theory because he's big and was known for being a physical player in College, the problem with that perception is that it's no longer the case. By all accounts he's slow and can't get off blocks.

Looking at the possible offseason UFA list the only guy I can see who ticks all the boxes is Erin Henderson. With our nickel packages and the hurry up offenses we're going to face we need an every down ILB, we already have situational or two down guys on the squad.

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