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[quote name='AsianRice' timestamp='1349751674' post='1182822']
You can check out my sig about Cam, but it may be the first time my mouth didn't spit a word "Cam" during the game. Our players dropped passes like the ball had oil on it. We just need to execute better. I think we were nervous when playing those away games......

I believe as the season goes on, we'll be more confident when playing at others' stadium...
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Maybe the ball DID have oil on it! I bet Cam greased that ball up, too! That dastardly Cam Cameron.
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[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1349752404' post='1182856']
Maybe the ball DID have oil on it! I bet Cam greased that ball up, too! That dastardly Cam Cameron.
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[profanity deleted]! lol
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[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1349729652' post='1182293']
I think it's time we get off the Can Cam. Bandwagon--for now. Look at the team as a whole and look at us at the end of the year before making that kind of judgment. For the most part, I have liked what Cam has done this year. No denying his success. People are just hating him unnecessarily at this point.

Cam can't make the players execute, and that's where we have been failing as a team on all sides of the ball.
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No, I will continue my noble crusade against the moron. For three years I've wanted him gone, and that's not going to change overnight. I have a fundamental disagreement with him on the way a modern offense should look at function. I'm not hating on him when I say his offensive scheme is wrong, I'm just stating facts. While it's true that he can't make the players execute, his play-calling does not help put them in positions to succeed. He's certainly come a long way since last season, discovering the three wide set and I even saw one bunch formation, but the routes are wrong and the scheme is not conducive to a high powered offense. You don't have to throw it for 15 yards on every play, and that boom or bust system of offense does not help with the team's consistency.
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[quote name='axisofeeble' timestamp='1349712478' post='1181975']
Cam seems unable to adapt to defensive changes thrown at the Raven offense. One screen to Rice,one Leach? Why? Flacco is not getting recievers who get open quickly enough and there were some drops but Rice averaged 6 yards per and still we barely dodged losing on the road to a mistake prone team that gave us the game. Cam is the weak link but.......................Flacco did not look elite yesterday after a long healing layoff. The Cowboys defense will put on the pressure even in our house. What will Cam do? Why don't we exploit other teams aggresive pass rush? Make no mistake our defense did not win yesterday's game. Chief mistakes gave our team another victory but the Cowboys ain't the KC fumble bunnies. There is a good chance we lose to Dallas if our offense stays so vanilla. Good luck Ravens. Where's our pass rush?
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all Cam has done is take years away from our players.
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[quote name='Greatness' timestamp='1349766785' post='1183078']
How about we get people who fits his system first? No?
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that's asking the impossible,what is "his" system".
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[quote name='Greatness' timestamp='1349766785' post='1183078']
How about we get people who fits his system first? No?
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They've been trying to do that for five years now to no avail. It's time to acknowledge his system is broken and move on.
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[quote name='Blex64' timestamp='1349735211' post='1182388']
I know the new standard is to bash Cam every time our offense underpreforms, but this game wasn't really on him.

I don't think he's a very good offensive coordinator, and I think he's done about as much as he can for this organization, but seriously.

The line played terribly, people dropped balls everywhere. [b]Run blocking was bad,[/b] pass protection was bad, the whole game was just bad. Nobody executed. It wasn't a perfectly called game, but there weren't too many plays that left me scratching my head. The only one that comes to mind was a 2nd and 10 run by Allen.
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Yeah curse that awful run blocking that gave Rice holes for 6 yards a carry! It sucked so bad!
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I would like to see more slants and crossing routes. It's amazing to have all that speed at receiver and nobody is getting open.


That has to be the play-calling. Cam needs to get it together.
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but the gameplan from the Browns game was fine. We were balanced the whole way through, and that's what I feel this team needs to succeed. My problems with Cam are not that he can't call a good game-plan, its simply that there are times when it seems like he only knows how to do one thing in a situation i.e., whenever we are down, we totally abandon the run game in favor of throwing the ball, which is something I've never understood. And I think a huge factor is having a QB coach so that way Cam can focus exclusively on the offensive game-plan and not worry about so many things at a time - I think him in a dual-role last year was a huge reason for our offensive struggles. And the other problem with Cam is that he wants to do things his way regardless of the skill set of our players - hence why Jacoby Jones, who fits his system, looks so good, while a guy like Q has seen his numbers drop from his AZ days.
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[quote name='ThePurpleWall' timestamp='1349767109' post='1183083']
that's asking the impossible,what is "his" system"?
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[b]Air Coryell [/b]with alot of running the ball mixed into it. It's originally a very pass happy system that, as far as I know, never produced a championship team. The few offensive coordinator, that use it nowadays, are all part of teams, that struggled at offense. Such as the Raides, Bears or Cowboys.
You basically try to strike vertically using alot of seam routes. Here is coaching legend Bill Walsh on the Air Coryell system:
[i]"The Coryell offense required more talented players, a passer who could get the ball there, and men who can really run—a lot of them,"[/i]
So, if you wonder why Flacco in this season is attempting all those low percentage throws, like having to feather in a pass to a receiver 30 yards away and running like crazy with amazing touch on the ball, which is ridiculously hard instead of going for easier short and intermediate passes, then the answer would be coaching.
It's also the reason why Cam prefers talking about execution and training rather than adjusting routes for the defenses he faces.
Flacco is already the most accurate thrower of the long pass in the whole league. The second best QB in that category is not even close and yet Cam's answer always is "Just get better at it".
In every game, I have seen this season, either Flacco makes an amazing pass or one of our receivers makes a jaw-dropping reception. It's like we are wasting all that talent, just by asking our offense to do, what close to nobody does in this league anymore.
But hey, trust in the system and Cam "the second coming of Tom Landry" Cameron.
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