The Car Thread

[Ravenmore74]

my favorite of all time

is the

LS-9 then LS-7 and LS-3. Soon LS 3 well have a convertible Chassy to go along with the new Camaro in 2011.

The Ed Withacre edition Camaro...

[Ravens549]

What is everyone's favorite motors of all time? If cost and availability were no object, what are the motors that get your blood going the most?

Personally I've always loved low displacement V8s and high revving I6s.

I'm trying hard to narrow it down to my top 3, here's what I've got so far (not necessarily in order):

1. Ferrari's 3.6L V8 found in the Modena (my dream car!)

2. BMW's 3.2L I6 from the late 90's/early 00's M3

3. Porsche's 3.8L H6 from the GT3

There are several other engines I was debating on, but if I can only limit myself to top 3 those would be it.

No offense, but with a topic titled Motorheads..these engines do not come to mind.

Those of us true motorheads know it is all about one thing- displacement.

I also found it amusing this thread is about a BMW.

Motorheads...Bimmers=

[flynismo]

No offense, but with a topic titled Motorheads..these engines do not come to mind.

Those of us true motorheads know it is all about one thing- displacement.

I also found it amusing this thread is about a BMW.

Motorheads...Bimmers=

No offense, but if you define "true motorhead" as a being a pot-bellied slug with a mullet, missing teeth, spaghetti-o stains on his wife beater and a loud *** Trans Am, then I guess you're right; not a true motorhead.

But I thought it was about making the fastest time humanly possible, not building the biggest motor and thinking that's good enough.

Motorheads to me is anyone who has an interest in and a little knowledge of cars and their inner workings; whether its the slug in the Trans Am, the ricer with the airplane wing and fart can hanging off the end of their Neon, or people with style and taste who restore old Bimmers with their own blood and sweat. That's why Motorheads include Bimmers...I'm pretty sure that piecing together a homemade turbo and installing it yourself is something that would bring a tear of pride to any real motorhead.

Thanks for the input though

Edited May 5, 2010 by flynismo

[JonM229]

Why doesn't a mod merge this topic and the GM topic together because it almost means exactly the same thing...

That's because GM doesn't make cars per se. They're more ****boxes.

[H8R]

Iconic engines for me :

427BBC

350SBC

LS"X" ( any LS series engines)

3.8L SFI Turbo

RB26

4G63

SR20

Any M-Power engine

Edited May 5, 2010 by H8R

[Ravens549]

No offense, but if you define "true motorhead" as a being a pot-bellied slug with a mullet, missing teeth, spaghetti-o stains on his wife beater and a loud *** Trans Am, then I guess you're right; not a true motorhead.

But I thought it was about making the fastest time humanly possible, not building the biggest motor and thinking that's good enough.

Motorheads to me is anyone who has an interest in and a little knowledge of cars and their inner workings; whether its the slug in the Trans Am, the ricer with the airplane wing and fart can hanging off the end of their Neon, or people with style and taste who restore old Bimmers with their own blood and sweat. That's why Motorheads include Bimmers...I'm pretty sure that piecing together a homemade turbo and installing it yourself is something that would bring a tear of pride to any real motorhead.

Thanks for the input though

So to you motorhead is a lot more vague term than I. That's all.

It's kinda like some people envision bikers as anyone who rides a motorcycle. But I guess I am bit old school in that a biker I still think of Sonny Barger, Peter Fonda, Dennis Hopper.

Likewise, I would rather see anything Corvette, Camaro, Mustang, Charger, Challenger, Viper, etc., etc., etc. whooping up on anything made overseas!

GO JOE DIRT!!!!

[Ravens549]

That's because GM doesn't make cars per se. They're more ****boxes.

And what do you drive.....

[BohBalmerOsbohs]

And what do you drive.....

He feels more comfortable in a Toyota hybrid that runs on Urine.

[Purple Nurple]

He feels more comfortable in a Toyota hybrid that runs on Urine.

and up to 10% ethanol.

[flynismo]

So to you motorhead is a lot more vague term than I. That's all.

It's kinda like some people envision bikers as anyone who rides a motorcycle. But I guess I am bit old school in that a biker I still think of Sonny Barger, Peter Fonda, Dennis Hopper.

Likewise, I would rather see anything Corvette, Camaro, Mustang, Charger, Challenger, Viper, etc., etc., etc. whooping up on anything made overseas!

GO JOE DIRT!!!!

Yup, seems that I have a broader definition of what makes a motorhead; not sure why it would exclude any particular group, since we all do the same thing...

What car did Joe Dirt drive? Never watched that movie. Please tell me he either drove a late 70's Trans Am or an IROC-Z!!

[flynismo]

He feels more comfortable in a Toyota hybrid that runs on Urine.

Hey now, dont hate too hard on the hybrids! Some of the concept cars are sick. Honda had one a few years ago that put out over 400hp and still got over 40mpg.

Once they figure out how to get this shiz mass produced, the tree huggers are really gonna come after us.

[Purple Nurple]

What car did Joe Dirt drive? Never watched that movie. Please tell me he either drove a late 70's Trans Am or an IROC-Z!!

Enjoy the fruits of my labor, grease-monkey.

Joe Dirts Car

[Purple Punishment]

Im a ricer lmao

2002 Acura RSX Type S

Garrett GT35R Turbo pushing 12psi until the the compression is lowered

RC 750cc Injectors....need to upgrade soon

Hondata K Pro (complete tuning that fits directly into the stock ECU *very cool*)

HKS SSQV Blow Off Valve (sounds sexyyyy)

Thermal R&D 3" turbo exhaust......and many more mods

Numbers: 346whp

294tq......its a Honda for crying out loud, there is no tourque lol

All in all I enjoy my ride. I have under 70k mi on it and its an 02. 4 deployments have kept the mileage low lol!

[Ravens549]

Enjoy the fruits of my labor, grease-monkey.

Joe Dirts Car

Actually Kid Rock drove a 79 10th Anniversary Trans Am- 400 c.i. V8 in the movie.

Oh Yeah!!!

[Ravens549]

Hey now, dont hate too hard on the hybrids! Some of the concept cars are sick. Honda had one a few years ago that put out over 400hp and still got over 40mpg.

Once they figure out how to get this shiz mass produced, the tree huggers are really gonna come after us.

Don't forget Tesla Motors...in case you have $100K lying around.

[flynismo]

Im a ricer lmao

2002 Acura RSX Type S

Garrett GT35R Turbo pushing 12psi until the the compression is lowered

RC 750cc Injectors....need to upgrade soon

Hondata K Pro (complete tuning that fits directly into the stock ECU *very cool*)

HKS SSQV Blow Off Valve (sounds sexyyyy)

Thermal R&D 3" turbo exhaust......and many more mods

Numbers: 346whp

294tq......its a Honda for crying out loud, there is no tourque lol

All in all I enjoy my ride. I have under 70k mi on it and its an 02. 4 deployments have kept the mileage low lol!

Now, if you paid more for a front or roof mounted wing than you did on the turbo, then I'd call ya a ricer, lol

That's actually pretty badass. 350whp + a close ratio 6 speed in your 2500lb car = win!

[FlaccoFlicker]

OMG ok i need help my friend found a car fr me i have been wanting,if you have seen Gone In 60 Seconds you will know what I mean,he found Elenor,or however you spell it,it has no engine so what type should i get for it?

[Ravens549]

OMG ok i need help my friend found a car fr me i have been wanting,if you have seen Gone In 60 Seconds you will know what I mean,he found Elenor,or however you spell it,it has no engine so what type should i get for it?

He found a GT500 without a motor?!

[FlaccoFlicker]

He found a GT500 without a motor?!

thats what he said,he works for a company that seizes property in storage sheds that arent paid up,it was sitting in there but under the hood was basically empty,he can get it repaired and all that stuff but asked what kind of engine do I want,I have no freaking clue

[Ravenmore74]

I don't care so much for GM because the insides are not as good as the outside...

The engines are sound!

Edited May 7, 2010 by Ravenmore74

[H8R]

Now, if you paid more for a front or roof mounted wing than you did on the turbo, then I'd call ya a ricer, lol

That's actually pretty badass. 350whp + a close ratio 6 speed in your 2500lb car = win!

Yea, pretty sweet. Unless its a typo, that TQ seems unusually hight for a Honda. I'd like to see a Dyno sheet of it. I'm sure power under the curve is still pretty weak.

[H8R]

thats what he said,he works for a company that seizes property in storage sheds that arent paid up,it was sitting in there but under the hood was basically empty,he can get it repaired and all that stuff but asked what kind of engine do I want,I have no freaking clue

It depends on what you want, Nostalgia= SCJ New Era= Newer GT500 engine( 4.6Supercharged)

[thewarden86]

And what do you drive.....

Jon lives in Wisconsin now; he drives a John Deere. So, WHAT'S UP NOW? lol

[Ravenmore74]

It's funny how the top of the line Lexus parks itself. Then also the Bottom of the barrel ford parks itself to...

Edited May 6, 2010 by Ravenmore74

[flynismo]

It's funny how the top of the line Lexus parks itself. Then also the Bottom of the barrel ford parks itself to...

Never been a Lexus fan. They're basically Japanese Cadillacs. Except not nearly as good looking and without the badass motors...they're just so....boring...

I remember back in the day when only the most pimptastic cars had heated seats. A five speed auto? You must have bought a fancypants luxomobile. And so on.

I think the trickle down effect has great benefits. Not just for obvious reasons, but also because it is forcing automakers to do something crazy to get back on the cutting edge -- build a better car, rather than packaging a huge bundle of gadgets and whoopdie-doos. Now it's common place to see factory turbochargers, 7 speed autos, electronic suspensions, exotic brake systems, etc. Back to the old days, when a better car was the most mechanically advanced one.

[flynismo]

Yea, pretty sweet. Unless its a typo, that TQ seems unusually hight for a Honda. I'd like to see a Dyno sheet of it. I'm sure power under the curve is still pretty weak.

294 ft-lb sounds about right to me....the RSX's were a bigger 2.0L, and they respond pretty nicely to FI.

But I've driven a couple turbo Integras, and they take what seems like forever to spool. The one didn't hit boost until 3700 rpm, and it wasn't even that big a turbo (a T3/T4 of some sort). Off boost, was a dog...but once you get in it, seems like you cant shift fast enough to keep up with the motor.

I think you're right, it probably wont blow you away down low, but out on the highway it's a whole different ball game.

[H8R]

I guess fast is a subjective term, but at 12psi, that Turbo is WAAAAAY under its efficiency zone.

That baby should rip REAL good with about 20-22, much closer to the sweet sport for that compressor map. He's doing the right thing about being conservative wit the boost on stock bottom end.300 whp isn't enough for me in a performance car. Then again, I've been spoiled by big cubes, and well built turbo set-ups.

Edited May 6, 2010 by H8R

[Ravens549]

...They're basically Japanese Cadillacs...

Hey, easy on Cadis.

I would love to have a new CTS-V!

[flynismo]

Hey, easy on Cadis.

I would love to have a new CTS-V!

I second that. New Caddies are all pimp. I just meant the Lexus' have always just been glorified Buicks (a better comparison).

When I read the owner reviews, I laugh, because they get all excited about everything I dont like about cars in general....."ooooh, its like floating on a cloud!" or "Is the motor on? I cant even hear it running!" or "I'm not sure.....should I get the 21 inch or 30 inch monitor for my trunk?"

I pay good money to exterminate these flaws, lol

I have a M-B ML320 (suv) that I use as my daily driver, and even though I could have gotten the same model year Navigator for a couple grand less and a 99 Escalade for about the same price, I just loathe that "riding on a cloud" feeling that much. The ML320 is much sportier, and actually handles like a car when you push it. (I realize that for most normal, well balanced people, "pushing it" and "SUV" are not supposed to be in the same sentence, but no one ever accused me of being normal either.)

[H8R]

My dad used to have an X5, now that SUV handled like a car!

The only lLexus in my price range that gets me excited is the ISF and for that money I can get a M3...