Joe Flacco the top QB in AFC?

[3-4ravdef509]

[url="http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2012/09/25/is-joe-flacco-ready-to-surpass-tom-brady/"]http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2012/09/25/is-joe-flacco-ready-to-surpass-tom-brady/[/url]

According to this article, it's not too far fetched.

"However, father time catches up with everyone as the Brady-[b]Peyton Manning[/b] era in the AFC is on the back-nine, while quarterbacks like [b]Ben Roethlisberger[/b] and Flacco are taking up the mantle in the AFC."

Good read. I mean, once Manning and Brady retire, Flacco's only competition is Rivers, Schaub, and maybe Dalton or Luck down the road but that's premature.

If he plays at the pace he is at now, he'll hit 4,800 Yards, 32 Touchdowns, 11 Int, 65% Completion, with a 8.3 avg per attempt. Now, with weather and opponents we face, I think realistic numbers are probably 28 Touchdowns, 12 Picks, 4200 Yards. 62% Completion with about a 7.8 avg. Rivers isn't projecting to get close to that, Schaub would just about tie that. Ben, who knows. He's up and down and that team is hard to judge. But, really, Flacco has a great chance at breaking people's perception of him this year if he keeps it up

[RavensWin09]

it feels kinda weird we can stay in games now even with our D playing this mediocre. gotta give credit to flacco and caldwell on this. i think he could surpass ben this year but not brady. i have no doubt he will light up the stat sheet this year but we'll see what he can do in the playoffs this time around. all i want is 1 superbowl and if flacco plays this well all season, our chances our good.

[1/28/01]

No no no! Joe sucks!!! Stop it!

He's only played 10 out of 12 good quarters!

[izvoodoo]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1348667522' post='1167867']
No no no! Joe sucks!!! Stop it!

He's only played 10 out of 12 good quarters!
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I'd say 9, first quarter patriots game was pretty bad.

[flynismo]

Stats dont make you an elite player.

[redrum52]

Hate to say it but Ben is playing pretty well so far even though the only team they beat were the Jets. I had them at 2-1 at this point of tho season so I'll enjoy that loss they took the Raiders as long as we beat the Browns.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='izvoodoo' timestamp='1348667992' post='1167874']

I'd say 9, first quarter patriots game was pretty bad.
[/quote]

True true

[3-4ravdef509]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1348669191' post='1167890']
Stats dont make you an elite player.
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The issue isn't him being elite, its more about the perception of others and also being the top.in the AFC. Stats are a useful measuring stick but I agree they don't count for everything.

[izvoodoo]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1348670333' post='1167912']
True true
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That being said, with Joe I'll take hot and cold as long as it averages out to really good numbers.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='3-4ravdef509' timestamp='1348670923' post='1167924']


The issue isn't him being elite, its more about the perception of others and also being the top.in the AFC. Stats are a useful measuring stick but I agree they don't count for everything.
[/quote]

He was being a bit facetious

[Bazooka Joe]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1348669191' post='1167890']
Stats dont make you an elite player.
[/quote]

Right. Wins make a QB Elite. Flacco wins! Plus he has stats. He's elite.

[flynismo]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1348672022' post='1167946']


He was being a bit facetious
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just a bit lol....

Anything that can be said to detract from Flacco likely will be said by certain people...

Cue Skip....

“Fluko threw for 4500 yards and 35 TD? Well i have to see him do that again before I crown him.
Coming up next, Who is more elite, Cam Newton or Josh Freeman?“

[hawkprey]

He has great stats even with the Philly clunker accounting for more than a third of his snaps. If the Philly game second half proves itself as just an anomaly, the farther away we get from week 2 the more his passer rating, yards per attempt, and completion percentage would increase. But there are some tough defenses up ahead.

[redrum52]

I bet with a friend Flacco would have a better passer rating at the end of the season than Eli. He laughed but he who laughs first laughs.... um... you know. Anyway. Its very possible but I need him to pad stats against teams like the Browns and I need our defense to start playing better giving Joe more opportunities. Bye years end I see him no lower than 5th in the AFC. Peyton will be better and plays in a cake division as does Brady especially with the Jets out for the season with an ACL. Schaub has no competition and unfortunately for Ben and Joe they play in a division where 3 of the top teams could come out on top in any of the games.

[tctony]

Can we just shut this thread down now?

[AsianRice]

Flacco has alot of work to do and alot more even if he win 2SBs. He needs to work harder........

[arnie_uk]

There must be a flacco thread everyday. Sometimes more than one. Do all teams message boards argue and discuss their qb as much as we do here?

[1/28/01]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1348682815' post='1168123']
There must be a flacco thread everyday. Sometimes more than one. Do all teams message boards argue and discuss their qb as much as we do here?
[/quote]

Nope, not at all! They all do, but not nearly as much as we (everyone else) do!

[izvoodoo]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1348682815' post='1168123']
There must be a flacco thread everyday. Sometimes more than one. Do all teams message boards argue and discuss their qb as much as we do here?
[/quote]
Just out of curiousity I went onto the steelers board and eagles board and... yeah.

[lgcs27288]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1348682815' post='1168123']
There must be a flacco thread everyday. Sometimes more than one. Do all teams message boards argue and discuss their qb as much as we do here?
[/quote]

At the end of the day, does it really matter?

[The King]

Seeing the weapons Flacco has been given to work with in this offense I don't feel uncomfortable predicting him as a Pro Bowl selection this year. Although guys like Brady, Roethlisberger, and Rivers have the advantage of being entrenched in the minds of fans as the top QBs in the Conference, Flacco has been lighting up the leaderboards in passing totals.

Hopefully he'll have to skip the Pro Bowl for the Super Bowl, though.

[RavensPunkXVX]

I hate all the elite talks. If he wins us games, I could care less what his status is according to everyone else. I wish he'd be more consistent. Sometimes he just comes out and falls flat, like the Eagles. Sometimes he comes out and leads drives in the final minutes, like the Patriots. If he continues to play up to his potential and our receivers get separation, we're a top 5 offense.

[3-4ravdef509]

[quote name='lgcs27288' timestamp='1348683715' post='1168131']
At the end of the day, does it really matter?
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That's how I feel. Not like much anything we talk about really matters, it's just for fun. No offense to arnie, I get annoyed when people feel the need to question the need for a topic, when really there is no need for any of this, so why ask?

But anywho, that's just my three cents ( three not two, I'm feeling generous today)

[Neal Could Block the SUN!!]

Anyone else wish Boller was back?

[RavensPunkXVX]

[quote name='Neal Could Block the SUN!!' timestamp='1348684681' post='1168143']
Anyone else wish Boller was back?
[/quote]

Boller and Cundiff. Troy Smith as backup.

[3-4ravdef509]

Frank Walker to take Webbs spot, and Lee Evans as our number 1 receiver please

[rlh445]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1348667522' post='1167867']
No no no! Joe sucks!!! Stop it!

He's only played 10 out of 12 good quarters!
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I'd say five, and that's being generous. Joe is the worst thing to happen to this team since we let Priest Holmes walk.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='3-4ravdef509' timestamp='1348684643' post='1168142']


That's how I feel. Not like much anything we talk about really matters, it's just for fun. No offense to arnie, I get annoyed when people feel the need to question the need for a topic, when really there is no need for any of this, so why ask?

But anywho, that's just my three cents ( three not two, I'm feeling generous today)
[/quote]i don't recall questioning the topic, you'd know if I questioned a topic, many regulars here will back that up. I was merely asking a question if other fans have as much as a love hate relationship with their QB as we do.

Please find where I questioned the topic? It's a good topic if you didn't already know he was top QB and being someone that thinks highly of joe, I love reading posts like that one. I actually wanted to know he answer to the question I asked, otherwise why would I waste my time even typing it. If I wanted a smart comment I'd try and have a conversation with a moody teenage girl, or am I having one here? Who knows

So again, where did I question the topic? And offense was taken because you've made a wrong assumption and called me out on it.

Edit, same to you sir..

[quote name='lgcs27288' timestamp='1348683715' post='1168131']


At the end of the day, does it really matter?
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[The Raven]

[quote name='SpiderWebb21' timestamp='1348684829' post='1168148']
Boller and Cundiff. Troy Smith as backup.
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Please! Letting go of Troy Smith was the worst decision we've ever made! He was going to lead us to the Superbowl! Forget Boller!


Seriously though, Flacco is a beast. He's playing great football right now and he needs to keep it up. My fantasy team is dependent on it.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='Neal Could Block the SUN!!' timestamp='1348684681' post='1168143']
Anyone else wish Boller was back?
[/quote]me.....






Merely to see him warm up throw balls into he dirt a yard in front of him haaaa