Harbaugh, no more 4th downs for you!

[omar586]

Harbaugh decision to go for it on 4th down, i though it was risky, and if we didn't win the game i think that would have been the reason, we could've have taking FG with a lot of time on the Clock, 2nd time Harbaugh screws up on 4th downs. no more 4th down for u! what u guys think

[Purple Nurple]

I think we won!!!

[rlh445]

[quote name='omar586' timestamp='1348462037' post='1164581']
Harbaugh decision to go for it on 4th down, i though it was risky, and if we didn't win the game i think that would have been the reason, we could've have taking FG with a lot of time on the Clock, 2nd time Harbaugh screws up on 4th downs. no more 4th down for u! what u guys think
[/quote]

The call to go for it on fourth down was a good call. The call that sucked was the actual playcall. I supported John on that call and I even said to my cat, 'Win lose or draw, that call was gutsy and I would have made it myself,'.

[Shammy]

harbaugh sometimes -__-

[PShanosky]

Ehhhhh....it IS a tough call. At the time he went for it, I was glad he did. Obviously, after getting stuffed and advancing down the field on the next possession I wish we had done something else. Hindsight is 20/20. I like a coach with guts and if the odds say we make it 51% of the time on 4th and 1, then go for it.

[redrum52]

[quote name='Purple Nurple' timestamp='1348462096' post='1164589']
I think we won!!!
[/quote]

It was still stupid. You take the points and make it a one score game and I only say this cause of the time left in the game. Had it been the middle of the 3rd ok. That was real risky. I also thought it was weird we didn't trust Rice or Flacco in that situation.

[Guest RBates]

Very bad call, and could have cost us the game.

[1/28/01]

I said go for it. I didnt even understand half of what you said, but thats my $.02.

Some of you are acting like 50 yarders are gimmes...

[Ravenseconbeast]

I have another beef with Harbaugh. Why does he insist on wasting red flags on meaningless 3rd qtr? Use it when it matters the most. 2nd time in a roll!(eagles game& pats game)

[tctony]

Bad play call/player package/execution IMO.

Not a bad decision to go for it. Tough FG - definitely makeable with Tucker. Might have changed the dynamic of the game.

[Purple Nurple]

[quote name='redrum52' timestamp='1348462228' post='1164604']


It was still stupid. You take the points and make it a one score game and I only say this cause of the time left in the game. Had it been the middle of the 3rd ok. That was real risky. I also thought it was weird we didn't trust Rice or Flacco in that situation.
[/quote]

You're silly though. I don't care what you say.

[hawkprey]

I was against it. You're forcing yourself to run right into the strong part of the Patriots defense. You had to know Wilfork would make a push. Kick a field goal with your impressive kicker and it's a one score game. You have a better shot of making a FG than converting I would think.

[Alexir]

The play was horrible. They forget to attach the stick with the twinkie hanging from a string to McKinnie's helmet before sending him out there. He was horrible lol

[JohnnyBoy8102]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1348462620' post='1164640']
The play was horrible. They forget to attach the stick with the twinkie hanging from a string to McKinnie's helmet before sending him out there. He was horrible lol
[/quote]

If they really wanted to call a run in that situation, why not involve Rice? I didn't understand why Pierce was in the game then.

[omar586]

Tucker is an x-factor for us. guy confident and he's UDFA, thank u Ozzie and scout team.

[JO_75]

Wait, we win the game. Not only did we win the game but we beat the New England Patriots and we still have complaints???? What is wrong with this board lol.

[Gordo52]

I liked it. I didn't like how it was to Pierce though.

[SecretAgentMan]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1348462961' post='1164669']
Wait, we win the game. Not only did we win the game but we beat the New England Patriots and we still have complaints???? What is wrong with this board lol.
[/quote]
Si, yo no comprendo mi agmigo (I don't understand my friend). This board is becoming the bs the fans were screaming out at the stadium

[Greatness]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1348462961' post='1164669']
Wait, we win the game. Not only did we win the game but we beat the New England Patriots and we still have complaints???? What is wrong with this board lol.
[/quote]

Because even when you win, everything isn't roses. My defense got toasted to the tune of 385 Tom Brady Yards and like 1 punt. My coaching staff still don't know how to manage and adjust to games. But you gotta call a spade a spade. It cost us last week, but we won in spite of it this week. Talented players normally do that 9/10 times. But we have a lot of work to do in order to go from a good team to a great team.

[BMORElegacy]

I think that call reflected his lack of confidence in the defense to get a stop. We only stopped Brady from scoring twice that entire game... the first drive of the game and the last drive. He thought he had to keep the offense on the field to win the game and he was almost right.

I thought the game was lost after that play and thought we should have gone for the FG, but hell, we won so at least they can review the decision while sitting at 2-1.

[theFRANCHISE]

Good call, bad play.

You don't put the game on a rookie kicker from 50 yards out when you've got 8 minutes left. If you convert, then you put the kicker in a more manageable position for a game-winner. If you don't convert, then you trust your defense to do its job at a distance equivalent to a good special teams return by the opponent.

[AsianRice]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1348462961' post='1164669']
Wait, we win the game. Not only did we win the game but we beat the New England Patriots and we still have complaints???? What is wrong with this board lol.
[/quote]
I like the win but our defense is like crap; I don't want us to be like the Eagles who think they are best with 9 turnovers in 2 games came into the game and got whooped like a high school team.....

[BMORElegacy]

[quote name='Ravenseconbeast' timestamp='1348462380' post='1164618']
I have another beef with Harbaugh. Why does he insist on wasting red flags on meaningless 3rd qtr? Use it when it matters the most. 2nd time in a roll!(eagles game& pats game)
[/quote]His challenge flag saved a TD drive.... He challenged the spot of the ball on Q's stretch and we got a first down.

[Ravenseconbeast]

[quote name='BMORElegacy' timestamp='1348464473' post='1164784']
His challenge flag saved a TD drive.... He challenged the spot of the ball on Q's stretch and we got a first down.
[/quote]

True, i would like to recant that part. But the flag thrown in eagles game couldve been used on jacoby jones play imo.

[BMORElegacy]

[quote name='Ravenseconbeast' timestamp='1348466039' post='1164847']
True, i would like to recant that part. But the flag thrown in eagles game couldve been used on jacoby jones play imo.
[/quote]The Eagles challenge was boneheaded. But you can't challenge a penalty flag so the Jacoby play was lost either way. I must say that the refs almost made the same mistake this game on the first Torrey TD grab. They threw the flag but had the balls to pick it up. It was almost an identical play from last week and I'm very glad they got it right this time around.

[The Raven]

[quote name='JohnnyBoy8102' timestamp='1348462738' post='1164649']
If they really wanted to call a run in that situation, why not involve Rice? I didn't understand why Pierce was in the game then.
[/quote]

Because Pierce is better in short yardage situations than Rice

[funky141]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1348462271' post='1164607']
I said go for it. I didnt even understand half of what you said, but thats my $.02.

Some of you are acting like 50 yarders are gimmes...
[/quote]

Yes go for it a 50 yard plus field goal is no gimmee. Besides at that time the offense was moving the ball well, if anything maybe a different play call.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='funky141' timestamp='1348493385' post='1165162']


Yes go for it a 50 yard plus field goal is no gimmee. Besides at that time the offense was moving the ball well, if anything maybe a different play call.
[/quote]

Like the call, just not the play call!

[jimmypowder]

[quote name='rlh445' timestamp='1348462120' post='1164593']


The call to go for it on fourth down was a good call. The call that sucked was the actual playcall. I supported John on that call and I even said to my cat, 'Win lose or draw, that call was gutsy and I would have made it myself,'.
[/quote]

Why wasn't your best playmaker Ray Rice on the field on 4th and 1 .Ridiculous !!

[BenMir]

I knew we won't get the 1st as soon as I saw McKinnie. He can't block to save his life, why the hell would you use him?