What exactly is John Harbaugh good at?

[ratedr]

Serious question. It seems as if this team is routinely outcoached. Why is the head coach saying "it's right to question the calls on 3rd and short?" If that's the case, then why didn't HE question them. Both coordinators called awful games yesterday, but someone needs to hold them accountable, because we are quickly becoming Chargers East.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='ratedr' timestamp='1347901179' post='1156399']
Serious question. It seems as if this team is routinely outcoached. Why is the head coach saying "it's right to question the calls on 3rd and short?" If that's the case, then why didn't HE question them. Both coordinators called awful games yesterday, but someone needs to hold them accountable, because we are quickly becoming Chargers East.
[/quote]Lmao

[Guest RBates]

He is a good team manager. One of the best in the game today.

[K-Dog]

Wow.
I mean.
Wow.

I think you should drive down to the castle and have a little talk with Steve Biscotti and tell him what a REAL head coach is really like.

Maybe YOU could get the job!!!

[Twistidfunk]

I like Harbs but he was wrong not to say give the ball to Rice at the end of the game. 4 straight passes? What the heck?? We needed a first down at that time more crucial than the clock. I think we had two friggin timeouts left also. Unbelievable

[Florida Ravens Fan]

Lol you two related (Rbates,ratedr)??

[Radinho84]

He is good at taking us to the Playoffs every Year!!!
It is week two!!

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[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1347901425' post='1156403']
He is a good team manager. One of the best in the game today.
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I don't know why but I thought you came from the school of thought that somewhat agreed with the OP. I'm not trying to start anything or call for Harbs head but I'd like to know what he does well too. I'd like o know what ex coaches/players or current players really think about his game managing and HC ability.


Also why attack him when he asked a real question. Most coaches are known for something. BB is known as a defensive mastermind and great at preparing for also any situation. Not taking anything away from Harbs but people say he too over a 5-11 team when everyone knows anyone who could get injured that year almost did. That and Kyle Boller wasn't exactly a prolific passer.

[jazz1988]

[quote name='Twistidfunk' timestamp='1347901789' post='1156413']
I like Harbs but he was wrong not to say give the ball to Rice at the end of the game. 4 straight passes? What the heck?? We needed a first down at that time more crucial than the clock. I think we had two friggin timeouts left also. Unbelievable
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I think the ravens just really want to be a pass happy offense to the max and probably felt very confident in joe flacco after seeing how he performed against the bengels especially knowing that Joe Flacco won offensive player of the week award. I dont know why the ravens didnt give rice the ball more but maybe this loss will be a awake up call for the coaches

[AsianRice]

Like RBates said, Harbs is one of the best (not good) team manager in NFL. He is a good leader who would put his team in position to win.

BTW, NE just got whooped by a sorry [profanity deleted] team; would you call out all time best coaching Belichick as a horrible coaching?

[K-Dog]

[quote name='Florida Ravens Fan' timestamp='1347901893' post='1156420']
Lol you two related (Rbates,ratedr)??
[/quote]

Hmmmmm.
I never have seen them at the same place at the same time.

[ratedr]

[quote name='Twistidfunk' timestamp='1347901789' post='1156413']
I like Harbs but he was wrong not to say give the ball to Rice at the end of the game. 4 straight passes? What the heck?? We needed a first down at that time more crucial than the clock. I think we had two friggin timeouts left also. Unbelievable
[/quote]Same thing happened vs. NE. Why is he hoarding timeouts?

Harbaugh can outcoach the Kubiaks and the Lewises, but can he outcoach the Belichicks and the Coughlins?

[Florida Ravens Fan]

Did anyone expect to go 16-0 like really.... Just win against pats and everyone will be in Happyland again :-)

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='Florida Ravens Fan' timestamp='1347901893' post='1156420']
Lol you two related (Rbates,ratedr)??
[/quote]What? I told you, he is the best team manager in the game. He motivates players, teaches technique, and holds his coordinators accountable. That is what he does. (minus Cam of course)

[Florida Ravens Fan]

[quote name='K-Dog' timestamp='1347902067' post='1156427']


Hmmmmm.
I never have seen them at the same place at the same time.
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Haha ok I am thinking what your thinking.

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[quote name='Florida Ravens Fan' timestamp='1347902198' post='1156431']
Did anyone expect to go 16-0 like really.... Just win against pats and everyone will be in Happyland again :-)
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Its funny to see everyones reaction after a loss. They say a blowout is on the players and a close loss is on the coaches.

To answer though no. I originally far this as a fame we might lose and many of us probably did because we didn't know how their speed would matchup against us yet when we lost every one is an uproar. People are most likely just posting hangover induced rants due to the way we lost and the fact our defense almost gave up 500 yards.

[Twistidfunk]

[quote name='jazz1988' timestamp='1347901979' post='1156424']
I think the ravens just really want to be a pass happy offense to the max and probably felt very confident in joe flacco after seeing how he performed against the bengels especially knowing that Joe Flacco won offensive player of the week award. I dont know why the ravens didnt give rice the ball more but maybe this loss will be a awake up call for the coaches
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I hear ya, but the coaches have got to have a handle on the flow of the game. The flow at that point was of Joe sucking, period. That second half should have been Rice and Leach bashing and smashing eagles to the turf.

[Guest RBates]

To be honest the OP's question is legit. The hiring of Dean Pees has me scratching my head right now, especially when you already had a shaky coordinator on staff.

[757RavensFan]

[quote name='Florida Ravens Fan' timestamp='1347902198' post='1156431']
Did anyone expect to go 16-0 like really.... Just win against pats and everyone will be in Happyland again :-)
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I don't think anyone is saying we should go 16-0. However, when you LOSE games that you clearly should win, I think fans have the right to question what just happened.

[Moderator 3]

What is he good at? Producing a winning record every year.

[Twistidfunk]

[quote name='ratedr' timestamp='1347902094' post='1156428']
Same thing happened vs. NE. Why is he hoarding timeouts?

Harbaugh can outcoach the Kubiaks and the Lewises, but can he outcoach the Belichicks and the Coughlins?
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I do remember Harbs going into New England a few years ago and blasting the Patsies out of the playoffs. It was Glorious! Not sure how old you are but it happened! I swear!

The potential is there but like last season, the Ravens try to be something they are not and forget about our pro-bowl running back most teams would only dream of having.

It is very aggravating as a fan

[tctony]

People on this forum need to stop being so defensive. We are allowed to question our coaches and players without it meaning that we hate them and want them run out of town.

It's a serious question. What exactly does Harbaugh [i]do[/i]?

[Ravenslifer]

Well the FO hired him in 2008, and since then we've had 4 straight winning seasons, 4 trips to the playoffs, 5 postseason wins, 2 appearances in the AFCCG, and won the division last year for the first time since 2006. So obviously he's got to be doing something right, or at least something that Billick and the previous coaching staff weren't able to do.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='tctony' timestamp='1347902632' post='1156450']
People on this forum need to stop being so defensive. We are allowed to question our coaches and players without it meaning that we hate them and want them run out of town.

It's a serious question. What exactly does Harbaugh [i]do[/i]?
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Win more games than any other coach in the last 4 years! Continually put his team in the position to win a SB!

There are 2 things he does for starters! Anything else?

[Florida Ravens Fan]

[quote name='757RavensFan' timestamp='1347902511' post='1156444']


I don't think anyone is saying we should go 16-0. However, when you LOSE games that you clearly should win, I think fans have the right to question what just happened.
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I understand that as I also question the play calling (Cam). Just the reaction of some overboard.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='tctony' timestamp='1347902632' post='1156450']
People on this forum need to stop being so defensive. We are allowed to question our coaches and players without it meaning that we hate them and want them run out of town.

[b]It's a serious question. What exactly does Harbaugh [i]do[/i]?[/b]
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It's a ridiculous question. He's an NFL head coach for legitimate reasons. He draws up game-plans with the coordinators, in addition to handling the same general duties as every other NFL head coach.

A tough and we're questioning what our head coach does? Some folks need to get a grip.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='K-Dog' timestamp='1347902067' post='1156427']
Hmmmmm.
I never have seen them at the same place at the same time.
[/quote]Cut it out......lol .......Thats me and my roomate (Joseph Matthews) He will be on later bashing Flacco no doubt. In my name....DS

[tctony]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1347902729' post='1156452']
Win more games than any other coach in the last 4 years! Continually put his team in the position to win a SB!

There are 2 things he does for starters! Anything else?
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What is he doing on gamedays besides making bad challenges like his mentor Andy Reid?

If he thinks its right to question passing for it on 3rd and 4th and short, why isn't over talking to Cam telling him to run the ball?

Harbaugh is Cam's boss. His biggest weakness is that he (Harbaugh) is too nice. He needs to tell Cam whats up.

[Edit] You'll notice nowhere do I say Harbaugh is a bad coach. But you guys get so defensive. Guess what? We're the Baltimore Ravens and we expect to win every game. When we don't, we want to figure out why. This is a game we threw away and should have won. People are going to ask questions. Get used to it.

[ravens88]

[quote name='ratedr' timestamp='1347901179' post='1156399']
Serious question. It seems as if this team is routinely outcoached. Why is the head coach saying "it's right to question the calls on 3rd and short?" If that's the case, then why didn't HE question them. Both coordinators called awful games yesterday, but someone needs to hold them accountable, because we are quickly becoming Chargers East.
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[1/28/01]

[quote name='tctony' timestamp='1347903264' post='1156468']


What is he doing on gamedays besides making bad challenges like his mentor Andy Reid?

If he thinks its right to question passing for it on 3rd and 4th and short, why isn't over talking to Cam telling him to run the ball?

Harbaugh is Cam's boss. His biggest weakness is that he (Harbaugh) is too nice. He needs to tell Cam whats up.

[Edit] You'll notice nowhere do I say Harbaugh is a bad coach. But you guys get so defensive. Guess what? We're the Baltimore Ravens and we expect to win every game. When we don't, we want to figure out why. This is a game we threw away and should have won. People are going to ask questions. Get used to it.
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Guess what? A lot what you said is true. You know what the issue is? "What does Harbaugh really do?" is a pretty dumb way of asking the question. Its insinuating that he does little/nothing.