Joe Flacco says the integrity of the game was affected by the replacement refs

[jdynamite]

[quote name='HoldingCall' timestamp='1347837485' post='1154809']
I sure hope we are not whining about the Refs all week. The team had many opportunities to win the game but kept it close by not playing smart.
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While the team did have opportunities to win even at the end there, those opportunities wouldn't have been needed if a TD wasn't wiped out.... Or if Asumgha was called for PI down the field ( instead of illegal contact!) or Vick was called for intentional grounding they wouldn't have been on the 1 for a sneak.
It is what it is......

[Yum Chickens]

Now I feel bad for the Redskins fans, even though I doubt Cundiff would have made a 47 yard field goal, it should have been there and not 62.

BRING BACK THE OLD REFS

I won't complain =( I miss them!

[ratedr]

SNF crew just mocked Flacco for his comments, nice.

[admartian]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1347834418' post='1154614']
He gets killed no matter what he does though.

I love the fact that he is man enough to say what's what, whether it is PC or not. As long as he doesn't say outlandish things -- let him rip
[/quote]Agreed.

While I think he's right, I do think he'll get killed by his own fanbase as well as the media for this.

[atljbo]

This the 1st time i can truely say... Flacco sounding like a cry baby now... They let yall whole game play physical... The Defense caused turnovers but the O didnt take advantage of it.... Those are the facts.... Ill see if they gave philly more sensative nature calls then the Ravens... They let the whole game be played physical.


By the way.. I wanted the Ravens to win this one badly

[D-Rey]

[quote name='atljbo' timestamp='1347839753' post='1154926']
This the 1st time i can truely say... Flacco sounding like a cry baby now... They let yall whole game play physical... The Defense caused turnovers but the O didnt take advantage of it.... Those are the facts.... Ill see if they gave philly more sensative nature calls then the Ravens... They let the whole game be played physical.


By the way.. I wanted the Ravens to win this one badly
[/quote]I completely disagree with you

[D-Rey]

[quote name='ratedr' timestamp='1347839634' post='1154918']
SNF crew just mocked Flacco for his comments, nice.
[/quote][quote name='ratedr' timestamp='1347839634' post='1154918']
SNF crew just mocked Flacco for his comments, nice.
[/quote]They weren't really mocking, but who cares

[atljbo]

[quote name='D-Rey' timestamp='1347839811' post='1154932']
I completely disagree with you
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I disagree... And this is coming from a guy who was a raven fan during this game.... The only missed call play i can name is Nnamdi holding Torrey Smith.... But that happens in every game (missed calls) ... I just think some are being hard on these officials because its the easy out... The regular officials piss me off with bad calls or no calls too.


Overall this game wasnt called badly.... Philly stole this game.. I felt the Ravens had it won but you cant let Philly stick around... The Offense allowed that.

[kassaiscool]

LOL these refs are pretty bad. If you actually watch the game over the philly defenders are actually face guarding and not attempting to play the ball. They are holding so much its unreal though, if you are going to fine these players for a miss hit then you gotta look at these refs as well for terrible calls and looking lost at their job.. As far as the actually game the Ravens got beat, in the middle of the field. The Eagles took over the middle of the field especially the TE being so open.

[D-Rey]

[quote name='atljbo' timestamp='1347840056' post='1154952']
I disagree... And this is coming from a guy who was a raven fan during this game.... The only missed call play i can name is Nnamdi holding Torrey Smith.... But that happens in every game (missed calls) ... I just think some are being hard on these officials because its the easy out... The regular officials piss me off with bad calls or no calls too.


Overall this game wasnt called badly.... Philly stole this game.. I felt the Ravens had it won but you cant let Philly stick around... The Offense allowed that.
[/quote][quote name='atljbo' timestamp='1347840056' post='1154952']
I disagree... And this is coming from a guy who was a raven fan during this game.... The only missed call play i can name is Nnamdi holding Torrey Smith.... But that happens in every game (missed calls) ... I just think some are being hard on these officials because its the easy out... The regular officials piss me off with bad calls or no calls too.


Overall this game wasnt called badly.... Philly stole this game.. I felt the Ravens had it won but you cant let Philly stick around... The Offense allowed that.
[/quote]There were numerous, like Jones TD. Ya he pushed off, but because he had to because the defender was all over him. This game was called horribly and went 40 minutes longer than it was suppose to. Though we didn't play great. And that Torrey call was the most blatent I've ever see

[PeRK82]

[quote name='Static' timestamp='1347833874' post='1154562']
All this will do is give the media more to <[i]go on[/i]> about.
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Don't worry bud, All the ESPN AND NFL CHANNEL guys are already jumping off the Bandwagon. Dont worry, we win 2 in a row and the wagon will break with so many wagoneers jumping back on.

I say, arm the wagon and No one is aloud on that isn't a RAVENS fan. We don't want them anyways, we know what we have in this team.

[Moderator 3]

Why is Flacco taking all the heat for this when other players, including Ray Lewis, said the same thing?

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Ravens-Call-Out-Replacement-Referees/5b7ddeb6-259d-4938-9409-2eb83e93555e

[admartian]

[quote name='Moderator 3' timestamp='1347840426' post='1154985']
Why is Flacco taking all the heat for this when other players, including Ray Lewis, said the same thing?

[url="http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Ravens-Call-Out-Replacement-Referees/5b7ddeb6-259d-4938-9409-2eb83e93555e"]http://www.baltimore...09-2eb83e93555e[/url]
[/quote]Because it's easier to hate on him than take the logical, well-reasoned route..

[The Raven]

[quote name='atljbo' timestamp='1347839753' post='1154926']
This the 1st time i can truely say... Flacco sounding like a cry baby now... They let yall whole game play physical... The Defense caused turnovers but the O didnt take advantage of it.... Those are the facts.... Ill see if they gave philly more sensative nature calls then the Ravens... They let the whole game be played physical.


By the way.. I wanted the Ravens to win this one badly
[/quote]

I disagree with your post!!!

[quote name='Moderator 3' timestamp='1347840426' post='1154985']
Why is Flacco taking all the heat for this when other players, including Ray Lewis, said the same thing?

[url="http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Ravens-Call-Out-Replacement-Referees/5b7ddeb6-259d-4938-9409-2eb83e93555e"]http://www.baltimore...09-2eb83e93555e[/url]
[/quote]

Its the logic thing again. You're not allowed to think logically. And if you do, you are a stupid Flacco fan boy who should take off the purple shades and stop drinking the kool aid.

[raybaby]

[quote name='Moderator 3' timestamp='1347840426' post='1154985']
Why is Flacco taking all the heat for this when other players, including Ray Lewis, said the same thing?

[url="http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Ravens-Call-Out-Replacement-Referees/5b7ddeb6-259d-4938-9409-2eb83e93555e"]http://www.baltimore...09-2eb83e93555e[/url]
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Because he's the easy target. Being a heavily debated QB who has made 'controversial' comments before.

[jimmypowder]

The holding and pass interference no calls by the Eagles secondary was just mind boggling.

I'm telling you it was going on constantly ,particularly on Torrey .


I agree with Joe .This was disgraceful officiating and it cost us ,New England and who knows
Who else today .

[Yum Chickens]

[quote name='Moderator 3' timestamp='1347840426' post='1154985']
Why is Flacco taking all the heat for this when other players, including Ray Lewis, said the same thing?

[url="http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Ravens-Call-Out-Replacement-Referees/5b7ddeb6-259d-4938-9409-2eb83e93555e"]http://www.baltimore...09-2eb83e93555e[/url]
[/quote]

Because we need to be angry about each other for some reason!

[rlh445]

I mean seriously, Joe's right. Forget the outcome of this game or the other games today. These officials are just terrible. They can't even keep the game moving at an acceptable rate because they can't even figure out how to add or take away 10 yards depending on the penalty. They're gonna get guys killed out there, and the NFL needs to man up and just pay the damn refs what they want and bring 'em back so we can actually watch football the right way again. I'm tired of watching Div. III refs unable to even do something simple as remember to blow the whistle on a dead ball. It's ridiculous, and I feel like I've been taking the officiating for granted all of these years.

[amekochung]

Hey Flacco, one minute and 55 seconds with 2 timeouts from our own 20 but no points? If you want to be an elite QB for NFL, you need to deliver at least 3 points. Stop yakking and learn to produce under pressure. You elite QB? Please Joe!!!

[Gordo52]

I know the refs suck, everyone knows that. I just don't like how Joe and Ray are putting a lot of blame into them. Lets just move on and not complain.

[Tank 92]

[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1347843537' post='1155159']
I know the refs suck, everyone knows that. I just don't like how Joe and Ray are putting a lot of blame into them. Lets just move on and not complain.
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Or, complain and move on.

[K-Dog]

[quote name='admartian' timestamp='1347840605' post='1154997']
Because it's easier to hate on him than take the logical, well-reasoned route..
[/quote]

Logic and reason ?
Those are fantasy words !!!!!!!

[Ravenseconbeast]

We shouldve have easily bagged a 'W' on this game.

Real referees wouldve have easily caught up with the desperate Eagles acting up in 2nd half.

Holding WRs, the Jacoby Jones TD, the field timing(how many times?), where the ball was suppose to be placed in(how many times?)....it was a complete disaster for replacement refs.

You know it is wrong when vick throws 4 TO's and lesean was held under 82 yards (3.2yard avg) and yet they squeeze out a win vs us.

[SteelerStorm]

Excuses for a very poor performance and lack luster defense. I've seen many bad calls throughout the whole day. However, during this game the refs were poor BOTH ways. I mean how many opportunities shaw you give your offense? Eagles stuck up the place. 5 Turnovers. Here's your stats for this game: Bal Phi FIRST DOWNS 17 26 Rushing 5 7 Passing 9 17 Penalty 3 2 THIRD DOWN EFF 4-14 7-15 FOURTH DOWN EFF 0-2 1-1 TOTAL NET YARDS 325 486 Total Plays 65 75 Avg Gain 5.0 6.5 NET YARDS RUSHING 111 129 Rushes 21 41 Avg per rush 5.3 3.1 NET YARDS PASSING 214 357 Sacked-Yds lost 2-18 2-14 Gross-Yds passing 232 371 Completed-Att. 22-42 23-32 Had Intercepted 1 2 Yards-Pass Play 4.9 10.5 KICKOFFS-EndZone-TB 6-5-3 5-5-2 PUNTS-Avg. 5-50.2 5-39.2 Punts blocked 0 0 FGs-PATs blocked 0-0 0-0 TOTAL RETURN YARDAGE 143 59 Punt Returns 3-34 3-10 Kickoff Returns 3-100 3-49 Interceptions 2-9 1-0 PENALTIES-Yds 6-45 7-58 FUMBLES-Lost 1-1 2-2 TIME OF POSSESSION 25:39 34:21 [font=inherit][size=3]
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[CorvusCorax]

The man has a point. Can't argue that. But the arguing didn't help us win either.

[Ravenseconbeast]

[quote name='SteelerStorm' timestamp='1347844931' post='1155219']
Excuses for a very poor performance and lack luster defense. I've seen many bad calls throughout the whole day. However, during this game the refs were poor BOTH ways. I mean how many opportunities shaw you give your offense? Eagles stuck up the place. 5 Turnovers. Here's your stats for this game: Bal Phi FIRST DOWNS 17 26 Rushing 5 7 Passing 9 17 Penalty 3 2 THIRD DOWN EFF 4-14 7-15 FOURTH DOWN EFF 0-2 1-1 TOTAL NET YARDS 325 486 Total Plays 65 75 Avg Gain 5.0 6.5 NET YARDS RUSHING 111 129 Rushes 21 41 Avg per rush 5.3 3.1 NET YARDS PASSING 214 357 Sacked-Yds lost 2-18 2-14 Gross-Yds passing 232 371 Completed-Att. 22-42 23-32 Had Intercepted 1 2 Yards-Pass Play 4.9 10.5 KICKOFFS-EndZone-TB 6-5-3 5-5-2 PUNTS-Avg. 5-50.2 5-39.2 Punts blocked 0 0 FGs-PATs blocked 0-0 0-0 TOTAL RETURN YARDAGE 143 59 Punt Returns 3-34 3-10 Kickoff Returns 3-100 3-49 Interceptions 2-9 1-0 PENALTIES-Yds 6-45 7-58 FUMBLES-Lost 1-1 2-2 TIME OF POSSESSION 25:39 34:21
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...says a steeler fan

care to give us Eagles stats? I can gurantee you, you'd [profanity deleted] ur pants.

[tsizzle95]

For everyone telling Joe to shut his mouth, why arent you all yelling at ray lewis for saying the exact same thing?.. The calls were terrible, he was right.. Did we play great, no, but it is very hard to when you are being pressured up the middle every play and your wide receivers cant get separation because the defensive backs are grabbing them the whole way down...

[SteelerStorm]

[quote name='Ravenseconbeast' timestamp='1347845065' post='1155228']
...says a steeler fan

care to give us Eagles stats? I can gurantee you, you'd [profanity deleted] ur pants.
[/quote]The link is provided...These stats are both Eagles and Ravens.

[Gordo52]

[quote name='awholelottahaloti' timestamp='1347844194' post='1155184']
Or, complain and move on.
[/quote]
Makes no sense. Makes us look bad.

[UD Ravens Fan]

You know, everyone wants to complain - why isn't Joe sharper, he's off. Why aren't we controllling this game? Complain that your team doesn't dominate all the time but the NFL is filled with professional players and every week is going to be a struggle. it's a competition and your opponent is going to do everything they can to make it as difficult as possibe for you. All you can do , is try to do your best and make the plays when they count. Joe and Jones did and refs negated it with a BS call. TD and game over for the Ravens. Didn't happen because of the refs.. And let's not talk about all the other mistakes. Joe and Ray were right to speak out. Owners need to open their eyes and influence the situation.