Flacco haters

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1350423189' post='1192897']
I'm going
To take
One for
The team
Your an
IDIOT
[/quote]

I'm trying to figure that one out myself. Is he typing on his phone or something, I wonder?

[frangecko112]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1350422531' post='1192887']
Birk snapped it of HIS LEG. Birk snapped it into his own leg, and it went over Joe's hands. Obviously YOU weren't there. I was. You're lack of knowledge about this team and what's happened the last four post-seasons is comical, actually. What the heck does Matt Hasslebeck have to do with anything? And yeah, we were up 21-3, and I also recall a fumble by Rice that cost us a TD, no mention of that. And you still haven't answered me when I brought up Manning's and Brady's numbers. You lost those arguments, and so then you try to find something else, until someone shoots a hole in it. Tell you what, you find me an argument that actually stands up, and then I'll respond. Refuting the nonsense you write (seriously, what is that crap you wrote about Matt Hasslebeck, when did he ever say he was going to score getting the ball in overtime?) grows boring.
[/quote]i just want to say that matt hasselbeck said that in a playoff game vs the packers during the cointoss to start OT.

[arnie_uk]

I'm typing on my phone and it doesn't leave posts like that, I have no idea what he's at, but that was just poking fun, there could be a reason for that. But the post was aimed at the contents of his weird postings.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='frangecko112' timestamp='1350423449' post='1192903']
i just want to say that matt hasselbeck said that in a playoff game vs the packers during the cointoss to start OT.
[/quote]

Oh. My point wasn't about the Packers-Seahawks, it was simply that in that Superbowl vs. the Seahawks, Roethlisberger was god awful and it was his TEAM that beat the Seahawks. Hasslebeck outplayed Roethlisberger in that game and his team lost. And Hasslebeck said that? Because as far as I can tell, Hasslebeck has faced GB twice in the playoffs and LOST both times.

[3-4ravdef509]

^ How I feel about this thread....

At least Hardbaugh and EdReedFromTheU type complete sentances with punctuation and grammer.
Wait, we converted Hardbaugh though, nvm.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='3-4ravdef509' timestamp='1350424102' post='1192919']


^ How I feel about this thread....

At least Hardbaugh and [b]EdReedFromTheU[/b] type complete sentances with punctuation and grammer.
Wait, we converted Hardbaugh though, nvm.
[/quote]

I kind of miss him being around as much as he used to. Some of the things he says are pretty funny. Especially that list he made of "quarterbacks who are better than Joe Flacco" which included Tim Tebow, Vince Young, Michael Vick, and I think he even threw in Randall Cunningham.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1350424521' post='1192926']


I kind of miss him being around as much as he used to. Some of the things he says are pretty funny. Especially that list he made of "quarterbacks who are better than Joe Flacco" which included Tim Tebow, Vince Young, Michael Vick, and I think he even threw in Randall Cunningham.
[/quote]no matter what anyone has said, with the exception of wizard, they all formed a decent argument. Oh and that atlraven dude. Everyone else formed a good argument you could have a good back and forth with. This right here is utter nonsense.

I'm beginning to think it is wizard!

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1350424666' post='1192931']
no matter what anyone has said, with the exception of wizard, they all formed a decent argument. Oh and that atlraven dude. Everyone else formed a good argument you could have a good back and forth with. This right here is utter nonsense.

I'm beginning to think it is wizard!
[/quote]

IDK, wizard at least spoke in complete sentences. I'm STILL trying to figure out that Hasslebeck thing. Hasslebeck never played an overtime playoff game that I could see. And wizard responds to the points you make, even if his counterpoints are off. I noticed this guy says something, doesn't fact check, and when you bring up the facts he comes up with a completely different argument.

[frangecko112]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1350424800' post='1192936']
IDK, wizard at least spoke in complete sentences. I'm STILL trying to figure out that Hasslebeck thing. Hasslebeck never played an overtime playoff game that I could see. And wizard responds to the points you make, even if his counterpoints are off. I noticed this guy says something, doesn't fact check, and when you bring up the facts he comes up with a completely different argument.
[/quote] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4W7rbY5NDc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4W7rbY5NDc[/url]
here's the link of hasselbeck saying "we'll take the ball and we're going to score" and it shows that it's OT and i believe it was a[size=3] [font=arial, sans-serif]2003 NFC Wildcard game [/font][/size]

[-Truth-]

[quote name='allballs' timestamp='1350419935' post='1192844']
yeah slacco cost us that game,
we had no reason to throw.
ricky was gashing pats, and
where was rice, what has he
done in the playoffs other than
get stripped from behind. at CRUCIAL
moments. idc if it was his first fumble,
it was a moment changing and outcome
influencing tragic event. football is about
controlling the battlefield of play, you
give a team something to get amped
up about, they will comeback and beat you
you go head and close the door, they will
nearly concede the victory. flacco pick
vs the pats happend at a critical moment,
LEE EVANS, of all people, he's never open
even when he's open, is he still a Raven?
and flacco had a 20 yard running gap wide open
earlier, didnt run for it, did you see that?
if we keep runnin that ball vs the worst rushing
defense in the league, we win that game.
speaking of rushing def , we lack there of,
headed to houston, who's ticked off after losing,
whose never beaten us, whose feature back
ran all thru us in the playoff game last year that
ed and ray won, with ray out, webb out,
rb ddnt have a good game, he might get 200 or 300,
he could set the single game record, i mean Pees
will be fired in houston at halftime, i mean shaub could
put up 500, but, if flacco, doesnt turn over the ball,
we will win! trust me.
[/quote]

lol Flacco cost us the game? The only INT he threw became practically irrelevant after we snatched the ball right back from Tom Brady on the very next play. That was exactly my point. That the Pittsburgh loss was no where near just Flacco's fault. Thank you for proving it. Rice lost a fumble at a very inopportune time and the Steelers converted this mistake into a TD. Ricky Williams was gashing the Patriots' defense? With 6 carries, 27 yards, equaling 3.7 YPC? Our RBs in total amassed just 89 yards on 27 carries. Vince Wilfork was dominating the game, and our running game couldn't lead ants to a picnic. Joe, on the other hand, was 22 for 36, with over 300 yards and 2 TDs. But yet your winning strategy would have been to stick with the former and not the latter. I just finished re-watching the highlights and there was no 20 yard gap to speak of. And if there was, what exactly would it have changed? Did he not drive us within FG range, like you just finished praising Ryan for doing so? No, Evans is no longer a Raven, and the drop/strip likely had a ton to do with it, given that Flacco put it right in his bread basket. It was the same reason why we sought out competition for Billy Cundiff. Yet you're still foolish enough to pin it on the man who was arguably the best player on the field that night. No offense, but your misguided rants are among the most biased, deluded and unsupported bits of absurdity that I've come across in recent memory. My goodness.

[-Truth-]

[quote name='allballs' timestamp='1350419935' post='1192844']
yeah slacco cost us that game,
we had no reason to throw.
ricky was gashing pats, and
where was rice, what has he
done in the playoffs other than
get stripped from behind. at CRUCIAL
moments. idc if it was his first fumble,
it was a moment changing and outcome
influencing tragic event. football is about
controlling the battlefield of play, you
give a team something to get amped
up about, they will comeback and beat you
you go head and close the door, they will
nearly concede the victory. flacco pick
vs the pats happend at a critical moment,
LEE EVANS, of all people, he's never open
even when he's open, is he still a Raven?
and flacco had a 20 yard running gap wide open
earlier, didnt run for it, did you see that?
if we keep runnin that ball vs the worst rushing
defense in the league, we win that game.
speaking of rushing def , we lack there of,
headed to houston, who's ticked off after losing,
whose never beaten us, whose feature back
ran all thru us in the playoff game last year that
ed and ray won, with ray out, webb out,
rb ddnt have a good game, he might get 200 or 300,
he could set the single game record, i mean Pees
will be fired in houston at halftime, i mean shaub could
put up 500, but, if flacco, doesnt turn over the ball,
we will win! trust me.
[/quote]

lol Flacco cost us the game? The only INT he threw became practically irrelevant after we snatched the ball right back from Tom Brady on the very next play. That was exactly my point. That the Pittsburgh loss was no where near just Flacco's fault. Thank you for proving it. Rice lost a fumble at a very inopportune time and the Steelers converted this mistake into a TD. Ricky Williams was gashing the Patriots' defense? With 6 carries, 27 yards, equaling 3.7 YPC? Our RBs in total amassed just 89 yards on 27 carries. Vince Wilfork was dominating our OL, and our running game couldn't lead ants to a picnic. Joe, on the other hand, was 22 for 36, with over 300 yards and 2 TDs. But yet your winning strategy would have been to stick with the former and not the latter. I just finished re-watching the highlights and there was no 20 yard gap to speak of. And if there was, what exactly would it have changed? Did he not drive us within FG range, like you just finished praising Ryan for doing so? No, Evans is no longer a Raven, and the drop/strip likely had a ton to do with it, given that Flacco put it right in his bread basket. It was the same reason why we sought out competition for Billy Cundiff. Yet you're still foolish enough to pin it on the man who was arguably the best player on the field that night. No offense, but your misguided rants are among the most biased, deluded and unsupported bits of absurdity that I've come across in recent memory. My goodness.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='frangecko112' timestamp='1350425290' post='1192940']

here's the link of hasselbeck saying "we'll take the ball and we're going to score" and it shows that it's OT and i believe it was a[size=3] [font=arial, sans-serif]2003 NFC Wildcard game [/font][/size]
[/quote]

Thanks, I see it now. Still, it makes my point even more valid, IMO. Hasslebeck did that, then 2 years later led his team to the Superbowl where he faced one of the greatest defenses of the decade. That was like his first pro-bowl year, too. The best stretch of his career hadn't even come yet. Which is why I don't get why this dude brought it up.

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='awholelottahaloti' timestamp='1350419785' post='1192841']

[/quote]

Agreed but, can't the troll be removed? It's pretty obvious now that is what they are.

[flynismo]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1350423288' post='1192899']
I'm trying to figure that one out myself. Is he typing on his phone or something, I wonder?
[/quote]

Probably. He doesn't seem smart enough to figure out how to turn on a computer

[Militant X 1]

[quote name='allballs' timestamp='1350419935' post='1192844']
yeah slacco cost us that game,
we had no reason to throw.
ricky was gashing pats, and
where was rice, what has he
done in the playoffs other than
get stripped from behind. at CRUCIAL
moments. idc if it was his first fumble,
it was a moment changing and outcome
influencing tragic event. football is about
controlling the battlefield of play, you
give a team something to get amped
up about, they will comeback and beat you
you go head and close the door, they will
nearly concede the victory. flacco pick
vs the pats happend at a critical moment,
LEE EVANS, of all people, he's never open
even when he's open, is he still a Raven?
and flacco had a 20 yard running gap wide open
earlier, didnt run for it, did you see that?
if we keep runnin that ball vs the worst rushing
defense in the league, we win that game.
speaking of rushing def , we lack there of,
headed to houston, who's ticked off after losing,
whose never beaten us, whose feature back
ran all thru us in the playoff game last year that
ed and ray won, with ray out, webb out,
rb ddnt have a good game, he might get 200 or 300,
he could set the single game record, i mean Pees
will be fired in houston at halftime, i mean shaub could
put up 500, but, if flacco, doesnt turn over the ball,
we will win! trust me.
[/quote]

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~Mili

[1/28/01]

[quote name='allballs' timestamp='1350418958' post='1192817']


your not not getting it,
brady has 3
peyton has 1
flacco gave ben 1
flacco gave eli 1
flacco gave brees 1
flacco gave discount double check 1
who will he give it to this year?
i hope himself, but you will understand
maybe, when you see how we make our
exit this year, if we make it to the playoffs.
too see Ray and webb out, the steelers are
salivating. we've never beat peyton , even
though our D use to give him a hard, like, but
were bein....i stop here, you can't handle truth
[/quote]

Please a speak a English!

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='allballs' timestamp='1350418958' post='1192817']
your not not getting it,
brady has 3
peyton has 1
flacco gave ben 1
flacco gave eli 1
flacco gave brees 1
flacco gave discount double check 1
who will he give it to this year?
i hope himself, but you will understand
maybe, when you see how we make our
exit this year, if we make it to the playoffs.
too see Ray and webb out, the steelers are
salivating. w[b]e've never beat peyton , even
though our D use to give him a hard, like, but
were bein[/b]....i stop here, you can't handle truth
[/quote]

So by your logic, Dan Marino has 0 Superbowls and Trent Dilfer has 1, that makes Dilfer better than Marino, right? I mean because everything has to do with the quarterback, not the team around them, right? So, also by your logic, since Flacco has more wins than any starting quarterback through his first 4 seasons in NFL history, that makes him the best QB in the league right? I mean after all, this is YOUR logic, where all that matters is the win, and not HOW you won. And what the heck does that mean? Seriously, what does that statement mean? I don't know, and any native English speaker would have a hard time understanding it. We struggled against the COLTS, not Peyton Manning. Which proves another point - you seem to have no problem giving TEAM success to other quarterbacks (Uh duh, if you remember the 2006 playoffs where we dominated Manning defensively and yet the offense couldn't make it across midfield, and it was Peyton's runningbacks who bailed him out), but whenever anyone points out the INDIVIDUAL success Flacco has had, you keep pointing to W-L and calling it about the team. Like seriously, why are you bothering to post? Can't you see the lack of logic in your own arguments? Flacco gave Brees a superbowl? How? Because as I recall, Flacco has never played Brees in the postseason. Oh I see, according to you, if we had any other quarterback besides Flacco we'd have won 4 Superbowls by now. I think everyone here could pretty much shoot holes through that pathetic argument. And YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED ANY OF MY QUESTIONS.

1. How is Lee Evans' dropped pass Flacco's fault?
2. How is Houshmanzadeh's drop Flacco's fault?
3. How do you give Peyton Manning credit for a Superbowl when he threw multiple interceptions in every playoff game his team won in 2005, and his best quarterback rating was 80?
4. What does the Ravens not beating Peyton Manning have to do with anything? We haven't played him in 3 years.
5. How are you giving Ben Roethlisberger credit for winning a Superbowl when he threw no TDs and 1 pick, while you completely hammer his OPPONENT Matt Hasslebeck who btw did throw a TD in that Superbowl?
6. IF your logic is all about winning Superbowls, then you're basically saying Trent Dilfer is a better quarterback than Dan Marino, right? After all, Marino ended three of his playoff runs with game-ending interceptions.

[BirdWatcher]

[quote name='ravensdfan' timestamp='1350440026' post='1193142']
Agreed but, can't the troll be removed? It's pretty obvious now that is what they are.
[/quote]

Not convinced this is a troll. I suspect an angry young man who bet heavily on the Ravens to win the Super Bowl.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='Moderator 3' timestamp='1350479167' post='1193329']


Not convinced this is a troll. I suspect an angry, [b]confused and somewhat illiterate[/b] young man who bet heavily on the Ravens to win the Super Bowl.
[/quote]

[admartian]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1350470537' post='1193294']
So by your logic, Dan Marino has 0 Superbowls and Trent Dilfer has 1, that makes Dilfer better than Marino, right? I mean because everything has to do with the quarterback, not the team around them, right? So, also by your logic, since Flacco has more wins than any starting quarterback through his first 4 seasons in NFL history, that makes him the best QB in the league right? I mean after all, this is YOUR logic, where all that matters is the win, and not HOW you won. And what the heck does that mean? Seriously, what does that statement mean? I don't know, and any native English speaker would have a hard time understanding it. We struggled against the COLTS, not Peyton Manning. Which proves another point - you seem to have no problem giving TEAM success to other quarterbacks (Uh duh, if you remember the 2006 playoffs where we dominated Manning defensively and yet the offense couldn't make it across midfield, and it was Peyton's runningbacks who bailed him out), but whenever anyone points out the INDIVIDUAL success Flacco has had, you keep pointing to W-L and calling it about the team. Like seriously, why are you bothering to post? Can't you see the lack of logic in your own arguments? Flacco gave Brees a superbowl? How? Because as I recall, Flacco has never played Brees in the postseason. Oh I see, according to you, if we had any other quarterback besides Flacco we'd have won 4 Superbowls by now. I think everyone here could pretty much shoot holes through that pathetic argument. And YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED ANY OF MY QUESTIONS.

1. How is Lee Evans' dropped pass Flacco's fault?
2. How is Houshmanzadeh's drop Flacco's fault?
3. How do you give Peyton Manning credit for a Superbowl when he threw multiple interceptions in every playoff game his team won in 2005, and his best quarterback rating was 80?
4. What does the Ravens not beating Peyton Manning have to do with anything? We haven't played him in 3 years.
5. How are you giving Ben Roethlisberger credit for winning a Superbowl when he threw no TDs and 1 pick, while you completely hammer his OPPONENT Matt Hasslebeck who btw did throw a TD in that Superbowl?
6. IF your logic is all about winning Superbowls, then you're basically saying Trent Dilfer is a better quarterback than Dan Marino, right? After all, Marino ended three of his playoff runs with game-ending interceptions.
[/quote]
stop man
just stop
you cannot insert
logic
to an equation
that is already
illogical
it is like trying
to put an
ice cube
tray
into the pacific
ocean
to cool it
down
pointless







[size=2][i](just quietly, I find that posting style mildly therapeutic)[/i][/size]

[Blex64]

[quote name='Moderator 3' timestamp='1350479167' post='1193329']
[b]Not convinced this is a troll. [/b] I suspect an angry young man who bet heavily on the Ravens to win the Super Bowl.
[/quote]

Really?

[gabefergy]

Why on earth is my "ignore users" function not working?

[gabefergy]

[quote name='Moderator 3' timestamp='1350479167' post='1193329']
Not convinced this is a troll. I suspect an angry young man who bet heavily on the Ravens to win the Super Bowl.
[/quote]
His behavior is completely trollish though. Every single thread has the same garbage posts that are to put it politely "misinformed". He is getting quite the reaction as well...

[SecretAgentMan]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1350470537' post='1193294']


So by your logic, Dan Marino has 0 Superbowls and Trent Dilfer has 1, that makes Dilfer better than Marino, right? I mean because everything has to do with the quarterback, not the team around them, right? So, also by your logic, since Flacco has more wins than any starting quarterback through his first 4 seasons in NFL history, that makes him the best QB in the league right? I mean after all, this is YOUR logic, where all that matters is the win, and not HOW you won. And what the heck does that mean? Seriously, what does that statement mean? I don't know, and any native English speaker would have a hard time understanding it. We struggled against the COLTS, not Peyton Manning. Which proves another point - you seem to have no problem giving TEAM success to other quarterbacks (Uh duh, if you remember the 2006 playoffs where we dominated Manning defensively and yet the offense couldn't make it across midfield, and it was Peyton's runningbacks who bailed him out), but whenever anyone points out the INDIVIDUAL success Flacco has had, you keep pointing to W-L and calling it about the team. Like seriously, why are you bothering to post? Can't you see the lack of logic in your own arguments? Flacco gave Brees a superbowl? How? Because as I recall, Flacco has never played Brees in the postseason. Oh I see, according to you, if we had any other quarterback besides Flacco we'd have won 4 Superbowls by now. I think everyone here could pretty much shoot holes through that pathetic argument. And YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED ANY OF MY QUESTIONS.

1. How is Lee Evans' dropped pass Flacco's fault?
2. How is Houshmanzadeh's drop Flacco's fault?
3. How do you give Peyton Manning credit for a Superbowl when he threw multiple interceptions in every playoff game his team won in 2005, and his best quarterback rating was 80?
4. What does the Ravens not beating Peyton Manning have to do with anything? We haven't played him in 3 years.
5. How are you giving Ben Roethlisberger credit for winning a Superbowl when he threw no TDs and 1 pick, while you completely hammer his OPPONENT Matt Hasslebeck who btw did throw a TD in that Superbowl?
6. IF your logic is all about winning Superbowls, then you're basically saying Trent Dilfer is a better quarterback than Dan Marino, right? After all, Marino ended three of his playoff runs with game-ending interceptions.
[/quote]
I'll answer bc he won't!
1.not his fault
2. Not his fault
3. Manning has never had great talent outside of those two receivers and James.
4. It means nothing, he might beat us this year, but not in the playoffs.
5. Rottenbergers career has been defined over a few lucky plays.
6. Dilfer lolollllollolol. U mean the qb that was cut after he won the big game. Marino would have gotten us a dynasty. Differ was cut man.
Flacco is an accurate clutch qb. Sadly his players are not clutch around him. Flacco didn't throw bad throws for the drops. Cundiff missed, and if Flacco were in SF, Seattle, or even Houston, that team would be near unbeatable. We are lucky to have him.

[ThePurpleWall]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1350423189' post='1192897']
I'm going
To take
One for
The team
Your an
IDIOT
[/quote]

i gave you a plus 1

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1350537576' post='1194027']
I'll answer bc he won't!
1.not his fault
2. Not his fault
3. Manning has never had great talent outside of those two receivers and James.
4. It means nothing, he might beat us this year, but not in the playoffs.
5. Rottenbergers career has been defined over a few lucky plays.
6. [b]Dilfer lolollllollolol. U mean the qb that was cut after he won the big game. Marino would have gotten us a dynasty. Differ was cut man.[/b]
Flacco is an accurate clutch qb. Sadly his players are not clutch around him. Flacco didn't throw bad throws for the drops. Cundiff missed, and if Flacco were in SF, Seattle, or even Houston, that team would be near unbeatable. We are lucky to have him.
[/quote]

That's sort of my point. He brings up the fact that we haven't won a Superbowl yet, then brings up Matt Hasslebeck's failed run, then says Joe is the reason we haven't won and if we'd have had any other quarterback in the last 4 years we'd be 4 time superbowl champions. So all I'm saying is that some of the best quarterbacks in NFL history were miserable in the playoffs i.e. Marino, Fouts, Petyon Manning, etc., and some of them won Superbowls anyway because their teams played so well, while others' made costly mistakes their teams couldn't compensate for. Doesn't change the fact that every one of those guys is a deserving HOF quarterback. IMO superbowls can't define individual success because no individual can carry his team to a superbowl title. But by this guy's logic, Joe sucks because he hasn't won a superbowl, therefore by this guy's logic, Marino and Fouts must also suck, and Dilfer and Brad Johnson and Jeff Hostetler must be hall of famers because they all have rings, regardless of how much they actually did for their teams.

[JEEPercreepermd]

[quote name='edreedfromtheu' timestamp='1348937363' post='1173060']
Meaningless stat.

You can get all the yards in the world, and then continue to fail to put points on the board.

If you're an "elite, franchise QB" you should be able to put up more than 1 passing TD against a horrible Browns team... in your own house... when both teams are on a short week and supposedly your offense is riding high because you just "out-played" Tom Brady!

The bottom line is, if the Ravens defense doesn't score that interception return touchdown...the score is tied.

You really feel good about that, Flacco lovers?
[/quote]

I forgot, your boy Troy Smith would have had 5 TD's , ran for 100 yds and a TD, no Int's and 400yds passing...the Browns defense has been good enough to win for a few years now, their offense has rivaled any highschool JV squad though.

Oh and only ONE other team had ever won a thursday night game after playing a sunday night game. Get lost bro

[JEEPercreepermd]

I'd also like to ad to any Flacco haters out there..

Where do you think we would have been for the last 4 WINNING seasons (and 5-1 so far this year) with:

Kyle Boller
Scott Mitchell
Tony Banks
Jim Harbaugh
Eric Zier
Chris Redman
Anthony Wright
and all of the OTHER 50 starting QB's that we've had?

Flacco is BY FAR the best quarterback that has ever played for this franchise.

The Ravens as a TEAM haven't won an AFC Championship, but nobody in their right minds could EVER put that on Joe's shoulders alone. Maybe Boldin should have not dropped that pass in the endzone that would have likely put the Steelers away in the 2010 divisional round, maybe TJ Houshmanzadeh should have caught a PERFECT ball on 4th down that would have extended the game and put us deep into Steeler's territory. Mark Clayton was let go, because he dropped a pass on 4th down against the Pats that would have given us a 1st down at their 4yd line and a chance to win it..that game cost us BIG TIME that season.. Maybe the DEFENSE should have stopped the Steeler's final drive to beat us back in 2008 when they played in Baltimore..that game cost us the division and home field advantage... Lee Evans holds onto that ball and we would have been in the SB, Cundiff makes that kick and we would have had a chance to win in OT.

The point is that the team around Joe has failed in the playoffs, and in big games against elite teams more often than Joe has failed. Has anyone not remembered that Joe has lead the offense on GAME WINNING touchdown drives in EACH of our last two regular season games in Pittsburgh? Joe drove us into position to win the AFCC last year. Joe drove us down the field LAST WEEK with less than 5 minutes left to score what proved to be the TD that eventually sealed off the win against Dallas.

I don't care if the dude throws 20 touchdowns or 40, I just want this TEAM to win..however they have to. The only difference is that over the past few seasons he has PROVEN that if we need a score at the end of the game to win he's going to give us a CHANCE..which is so much more than most QB's can provide to their teams.

[The Raven]

[quote name='JEEPercreepermd' timestamp='1350580091' post='1194264']
I'd also like to ad to any Flacco haters out there..

Where do you think we would have been for the last 4 WINNING seasons (and 5-1 so far this year) with:

Kyle Boller
Scott Mitchell
Tony Banks
Jim Harbaugh
Eric Zier
Chris Redman
Anthony Wright
and all of the OTHER 50 starting QB's that we've had?

[b]Flacco is BY FAR the best quarterback that has ever played for this franchise.[/b]

The Ravens as a TEAM haven't won an AFC Championship, but nobody in their right minds could EVER put that on Joe's shoulders alone. Maybe Boldin should have not dropped that pass in the endzone that would have likely put the Steelers away in the 2010 divisional round, maybe TJ Houshmanzadeh should have caught a PERFECT ball on 4th down that would have extended the game and put us deep into Steeler's territory. Mark Clayton was let go, because he dropped a pass on 4th down against the Pats that would have given us a 1st down at their 4yd line and a chance to win it..that game cost us BIG TIME that season.. Maybe the DEFENSE should have stopped the Steeler's final drive to beat us back in 2008 when they played in Baltimore..that game cost us the division and home field advantage... Lee Evans holds onto that ball and we would have been in the SB, Cundiff makes that kick and we would have had a chance to win in OT.

The point is that the team around Joe has failed in the playoffs, and in big games against elite teams more often than Joe has failed. Has anyone not remembered that Joe has lead the offense on GAME WINNING touchdown drives in EACH of our last two regular season games in Pittsburgh? Joe drove us into position to win the AFCC last year. Joe drove us down the field LAST WEEK with less than 5 minutes left to score what proved to be the TD that eventually sealed off the win against Dallas.

I don't care if the dude throws 20 touchdowns or 40, I just want this TEAM to win..however they have to. The only difference is that over the past few seasons he has PROVEN that if we need a score at the end of the game to win he's going to give us a CHANCE..which is so much more than most QB's can provide to their teams.
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No duh. Am I the only one that doesn't care about that line anymore? The best QB this franchise has ever had? That's established. That was established in 2008. What I care about now is Flacco becoming the best QB in this league. Sorry, I'm just tired of hearing that. Especially considering his competition for the title...

[reediddy]

Just listened to the Sound FX with Joe for this past game...maybe I'm reading into it too much but it didn't seem as if he had much faith at all in our defense on the Cowboys' last TD drive. He said "might as well put it on the 2 and go for the 2pt conversion."

Probably not a big deal but kinda shows the changing of the guard in Bmore through a player's reaction