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[quote name='Militant X 1' timestamp='1348347350' post='1160843']


u didn't notice that i "edited" my post back when i first posted? of course i saw alexi at the end but i didn't want to be disrespectful and call a dude by a females name so i put the "r" at the end of it purposefully bruh! :lol:

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Saw ur edit.. Didnt see what u changed..

But fair enough
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Wait a minute fellas! Me and Flacco have been bros since pre-draft '08! But its OK if we have more than one member in the Flacco Club! I'm at the top then Fly, Franchise and others follow. lol!
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I still don't get the use of comparing anything a guy has done in his first 4 years in the league to a bunch of guys who've been in the league over a decade. Look at all of these guys: Rodgers (who didn't start until his 4th year in the league btw, and had 3 years to learn his offense and his receivers), Brady, Brees, Roethlisberger Eli, Peyton - all of them have two big things in common: 1) they didn't start putting up big numbers until several years into their careers (especially Peyton - people really seem to forget how much of an INT machine he was until Dungy and his staff got there), and 2) they all had the opportunity of working with receivers for years and developing good chemistry with them - in Flacco's case his starting receivers have been a steadily revolving door - hard to "anticipate and throw a receiver open" when you can't even anticipate having the same starting receiver two seasons in a row.
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28 - 39 for 382 yards 3 TDs 1 INT and 117.7 QB rating. Beat down the Pats

On the season:

In 3 games thus far,

Completed 64.5% of passes for 913 yards, 6 TD, 2 INT and 101.1 QBR.

Amazing what happens when he gets a little protection and his receivers get open once in a while
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Now let's see him back it up with a big game against the sorry Browns.

Flacco looking stellar thus far... out-Bradying Brady once again.
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[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1348464296' post='1164773']
28 - 39 for 382 yards 3 TDs 1 INT and 117.7 QB rating. Beat down the Pats

On the season:

In 3 games thus far,

Completed 64.5% of passes for 913 yards, 6 TD, 2 INT and 101.1 QBR.

Amazing what happens when he gets a little protection and his receivers get open once in a while
[/quote]I'd love for one of the sports stations to flash those stats and make somebody like Heath Evans or Skip Bayless guess who they belong to.
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[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1348464296' post='1164773']
28 - 39 for 382 yards 3 TDs 1 INT and 117.7 QB rating. Beat down the Pats

On the season:

In 3 games thus far,

Completed 64.5% of passes for 913 yards, 6 TD, 2 INT and 101.1 QBR.

Amazing what happens when he gets a little protection and his receivers get open once in a while
[/quote]And he did it against 3 of the best defenses in the league!!
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BUMP!

Let's hear it from hardbaugh and the rest of the peanut gallery. Or are they going to hide until Flacco has an off game?
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[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1348489207' post='1165066']
BUMP!

Let's hear it from hardbaugh and the rest of the peanut gallery. [b]Or are they going to hide until Flacco has an off game?[/b]
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Well, duh. That's been the theme for years.
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He had 4 bad throws all night, which is great.. Downside was all 4 probably should have been intercepted lol. Great comeback win, makes a huge difference to the offence when the run works and we speed the o up.
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[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1348489207' post='1165066']
BUMP!

Let's hear it from hardbaugh and the rest of the peanut gallery. Or are they going to hide until Flacco has an off game?
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He didn't hit 400 yards... Not good enough
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I am a Flacco supporter to the end, but even I can say those 4 or 5 passes that Arnie is referring to were complete crap throws. Now, I watch with open eyes (unlike the select few here) and I can say the other throws, TDs and overall game was perfect!! Out dueling Brady AGAIN is a beautiful thing!
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[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1348490905' post='1165094']
He had 4 bad throws all night, which is great.. Downside was all 4 probably should have been intercepted lol. Great comeback win, makes a huge difference to the offence when the run works and we speed the o up.
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meh, Brady had a couple throws that *should have* been picked too. Happens to every QB almost every week
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Joe Flacco has a 101.1 QB Rating through the first 3 games and is on pace for these stats on the season:

379 / 587, 4869 Yards, 32 TD, 11 INT
64.6%, 8.29 Y/A, 100.8 QB Rating

He has played against the 1st, 13th, and 30th ranked defenses in terms of opposing QB Rating allowed.

Flacco has posted a cumulative rating of 100+ over his last 6 games.


[u]Last 6 Games (Since 2011 Week 17, Including Play-Offs)[/u]
122 / 192, 1525 Yards, 11 TD, 3 INT
63.5%, 7.94 Y/A, 100.7 QB Rating

He has posted a cumulative rating of 90+ over his last 14 games.


[u]Last 14 Games (Since 2011 Week 9, Including Play-Offs)[/u]
278 / 453, 3254 Yards, 22 TD, 9 INT
61.4%, 7.18 Y/A, 91.1 QB Rating
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[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1348492509' post='1165130']
meh, Brady had a couple throws that *should have* been picked too. Happens to every QB almost every week
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agree
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I'm one of the harshest critics of Flacco on this board but last nights game was impressive in so many ways.

100 plus QB rating and 64 % completion pct. are elite territory. Keep on stacking 'em up!!
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[quote name='Hardbaugh' timestamp='1348493712' post='1165171']
I'm one of the harshest critics of Flacco on this board but last nights game was impressive in so many ways.

100 plus QB rating and 64 % completion pct. are elite territory. Keep on stacking 'em up!!
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Being a critic and saying "we'll never win a SB with Flacco" are two different things! And thats just a taste of the drivel that you spit!
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Can't judge a player on the good plays he "almost" made, and you can't judge a player on the bad plays he "almost" made.

Some of his throws were unsettling, but he makes plays when he needs to. He wins games. It's not a coincidence. He's been doing it his entire career.
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[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1348493812' post='1165178']
Being a critic and saying "we'll never win a SB with Flacco" are two different things! And thats just a taste of the drivel that you spit!
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Of course I'd love to be wrong, I just call 'em as I see 'em. I felt Flacco took some big steps last night but more than a few times he misread the coverage and threw ill advised passes. He looked alot more comfortable this week operating the two minute offense than last week.

That said, it's a continental divide between winning regular season games at home and taking the show on the road in the playoffs and stacking up great games. We'll see if he's up to the task, I hope JF can do it but am still not a believer.
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[quote name='Hardbaugh' timestamp='1348494829' post='1165204']
That said, it's a continental divide between winning regular season games at home and [b]taking the show on the road in the playoffs and stacking up great games.[/b] We'll see if he's up to the task, I hope JF can do it but am still not a believer.
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Of course you are not a believer, despite the fact that Flacco has done this repeatedly!!!
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[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1348492509' post='1165130']


meh, Brady had a couple throws that *should have* been picked too. Happens to every QB almost every week
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But these were just confusing. One he just lobbed up way over boldin, luckily the defender fell, another went right to the defender and he dropped it. Now, the one pick he dud throw I had no problem with the decision, the throw was just a little too ahead, but I felt our guy could have done something to help Flacco out.
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[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1348464296' post='1164773']
28 - 39 for 382 yards 3 TDs 1 INT and 117.7 QB rating. Beat down the Pats

On the season:

In 3 games thus far,

Completed 64.5% of passes for 913 yards, 6 TD, 2 INT and 101.1 QBR.

Amazing what happens when he gets a little protection and his receivers get open once in a while
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Definitely putting up some very impressive numbers thus far. Hopefully he can put together another nice game against the Browns Thursday. I think its two things that he really needs to continue this trend (and he has whenever this has happened).

1. A decent line performance. Flacco can take a hit, we've seen it countless times, and he can even roll out of the pocket, However, Philly had him really panicking in the second half, and his performance really suffered. Same thing happened early on in the first quarter last night.

2. A running game WITH LEACH. I could be wrong, but it seemed to me Leach was about shelved for the second half in Philly and most of the first quarter last night. The first time I saw Vonta in the game, Rice picked up his first big chunk of yardage. It was not long after that the Patriots had to bring the safety down. I would love to see Rices stats this year with and then without Leach in the game. I think you would see a world of difference. If the running game gets going, even just a little bit, Flacco can take control of almost any situation.
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[quote name='Hardbaugh' timestamp='1348494829' post='1165204']


Of course I'd love to be wrong, I just call 'em as I see 'em. I felt Flacco took some big steps last night but more than a few times he misread the coverage and threw ill advised passes. He looked alot more comfortable this week operating the two minute offense than last week.

That said, it's a continental divide between winning regular season games at home and taking the show on the road in the playoffs and stacking up great games. We'll see if he's up to the task, I hope JF can do it but am still not a believer.
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I think he read the coverage and just threw some passes without being set or completely sure, and the passes just got pushed up higher than he intended.
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[quote name='3-4ravdef509' timestamp='1348498152' post='1165292']
But these were just confusing. One he just lobbed up way over boldin, luckily the defender fell, another went right to the defender and he dropped it. Now, the one pick he dud throw I had no problem with the decision, the throw was just a little too ahead, but I felt our guy could have done something to help Flacco out.
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Yea Flacco still has those head scratcher moments, that leave me wondering what he is seeing. Kind of like that deep ball to Jacoby at the end of the game. We were right at the edge of field goal range, and your slinging the ball 30 yards down field??? Good god we were fortunate there. I think Jacoby would have caught it even if the defender didn't grab him, but slinging low percentage deep balls when every yard counts, is not a smart move. All in all though, Joe had a terrific game. He is still rather young, and only now getting his own stamp on this offence. There will be some growing pains, I just wish the Ravens had done this kind of crap a year or two ago.
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[quote name='Hardbaugh' timestamp='1348494829' post='1165204']
Of course I'd love to be wrong, I just call 'em as I see 'em. I felt Flacco took some big steps last night but more than a few times he misread the coverage and threw ill advised passes. He looked alot more comfortable this week operating the two minute offense than last week.

[b]That said, it's a continental divide between winning regular season games at home and taking the show on the road in the playoffs and stacking up great games. We'll see if he's up to the task, I hope JF can do it but am still not a believer.[/b]
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Yeah because his last 3 road games in the playoffs he did nothing right, just 700 yards passing, 5 TDs and 2 picks.
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[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1348505755' post='1165517']


Yeah because his last 3 road games in the playoffs he did nothing right, just 700 yards passing, 5 TDs and 2 picks.
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Stop it with proof and stats! Stop it!!!!
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[quote name='dirtybird10' timestamp='1348498748' post='1165319']
Yea Flacco still has those head scratcher moments, that leave me wondering what he is seeing. Kind of like that deep ball to Jacoby at the end of the game. [b]We were right at the edge of field goal range, and your slinging the ball 30 yards down field???[/b] Good god we were fortunate there. I think Jacoby would have caught it even if the defender didn't grab him, but slinging low percentage deep balls when every yard counts, is not a smart move. All in all though, Joe had a terrific game. He is still rather young, and only now getting his own stamp on this offence. There will be some growing pains, I just wish the Ravens had done this kind of crap a year or two ago.
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This is not his fault, at least not necessarily. If you watch the games our outside receivers only run go routes or deep deep posts. Jacoby ran one of the two routes he's allowed to run and Joe tried to go for a kill shot. He's still building chemistry with most of these guys, and had it connected Joe would've been a bigger hero. I want him to attack down field, but I also want him to get better at it, and that should come with time.
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[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1348505805' post='1165519']
Stop it with proof and stats! Stop it!!!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpKRfwQbYC8
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What I have noticed, I think he needs easy completions early, screens to rr, WR comeback, or slant, a few easy plays to settle into it. Last night after the int, he had a few easy throws, completed three or four in a row and then hit rhythm. He's a rhythm QB, so we need to get him into it early
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