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#1 rmw10

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 09:05 PM

I'm bored, so I'll run down each position and evaluate who we may need in the draft.

QB:
Under Contract: Tyrod Taylor
UFA: Joe Flacco
PS: Dennis Dixon

Notes:
Joe Flacco will be re-signed, so no need to worry there. This isn't much of a need, but the team may decide to use a late round pick on a developmental guy. Tyrod could be in danger next year.

Midseason Notes:
Nothing has really changed from the above. Flacco is still the future, while the backup position is Tyrod's to lose right now.

RB:
Under Contract: Ray Rice, Bernard Pierce, Vonta Leach (FB)
Rights Held: Anthony Allen, Bobby Rainey, Damien Berry

Notes:
Again, there isn't much of a need here. The team may decide to use a late round pick on a RB for depth purposes, but it's doubtful since all of our RFAs will likely be signed. Ray Rice, Vonta Leach, and Bernard Pierce are locks.

Midseason Notes:
I have nothing to add at the midseason point. What is said above still holds true.

WR:
Under Contract: Anquan Boldin, Torrey Smith, Jacoby Jones, Tandon Doss, Tommy Streeter, David Reed
Rights Held: Deonte Thompson, LaQuan Williams

Notes:
Torrey is the only guarantee here. No Boldin? He's a prime cut candidate with his salary. I'm not sure the team would make this move, but it's possible. Jacoby will likely get cut. We'd most likely have Torrey, Doss, Q2, Deonte, and Streeter heading into next year if they decided to cut Boldin. A WR is a possibility, but not the most important since it's likely Boldin will stay. Just throwing out the possibilities.

Midseason Notes:
It looks like Jacoby has done enough to warrant a spot on the team next year. Boldin has his games, but completely disappears in some as well. All signs point to Doss taking over his role. Torrey, Doss, Jacoby, Deonte, and Streeter seem likely at this point. Again, if a good player falls, they'll take him. Skill positions aren't needed in this draft.

TE:
Rights Held: Ed Dickson, Dennis Pitta
UFA: Billy Bajema

Notes:
Dickson and Pitta will almost assuredly be re-signed. Bajema will head back out on the FA market. The team could opt to draft a late round blocker or hit up the FA market again. Not a big need.

Midseason Notes:
Dickson seems to have fallen out of favor, and if some team makes an offer, the Ravens might not match it. I could see a late round pick being used on a TE if that's the case, but it's not a huge need with Pitta being the primary target.

OL:
Under Contract: Kelechi Osemele, Matt Birk, Marshal Yanda, Michael Oher, Jah Reid, Gino Gradkowski, Bobbie Williams
Rights Held: Ramon Harewood
UFA: Bryant McKinnie
Retirement: Matt Birk?
PS: Jack Cornell, Antoine McClain

Notes:
Clearly the biggest need. 3 to 4 starters are set, and LT is a huge hole. Bobbie Williams will likely be let go, so expect multiple picks to be used on offensive lineman, both exterior and interior. LT?/Oher - Osemele/LG? - Birk/Gradkowski - Yanda - Oher/Osemele seems to be the preliminary depth chart for now. Reid and Harewood are unknowns at this point. Too much uncertainty to leave untouched in the draft.

Midseason Notes:
This was an unexpected change. OL is still a need, but not as big of one as originally thought. Oher, Osemele, Yanda, and Birk/Gradkowski all seem to slot in on the line next year. We still have some young depth. I'd still expect a pick or 2 to go to OL, but it's not as crucial as it seemed before the season.

DL:
Under Contract: Haloti Ngata, Terrence Cody, Pernell McPhee, DeAngelo Tyson
Rights Held: Arthur Jones, Bryan Hall
UFA: Ma'ake Kemoeatu, Ryan McBean

Notes:
The starters are pretty much set. Jones will be back to go along with McPhee, Cody, and Ngata on the line. Tyson is good depth. Hall is an unknown, and Kemo will likely hit the FA market again since he's on a 1 year deal. A late round depth pick could be used, but this position is pretty solid.

Midseason Notes:
Well, here's the biggest change. Ngata is the only one on the line performing. Cody has sucked. Jones and McPhee have been mediocre at best. Expect multiple picks, including one high pick, to be used on the defensive line.

MLB:
Under Contract: Ray Lewis, Jameel McClain, Brendon Ayanbadejo
Rights Held: Josh Bynes
UFA: Dannell Ellerbe, Ricky Brown
Retirement: Ray Lewis?
PS: Nigel Carr

Notes:
McClain will definitely be in the middle. Everyone else is a big question mark. Ray Lewis could finally hang them up. Ayanbadejo is a ST guy for the most part. Ellerbe could head elsewhere. Expect the team to use a high to mid round pick to shore up the middle, even though MLB isn't as big of a need anymore throughout the league.

Midseason Notes:
The same still hold true, although Ellerbe seems poised to get a nice offer. McClain hasn't been living up to his contract, but he'll still be in the middle next year. I still expect a high to mid round pick to be used on MLB.

OLB:
Under Contract: Terrell Suggs, Courtney Upshaw
Rights Held: Albert McClellan, Michael McAdoo
UFA: Paul Kruger
PS: Adrian Hamilton, Sergio Kindle

Notes:
Hopefully Upshaw or Kruger can put it together and make it easy to bypass this in the draft. Regardless of whether they prove themselves or not, a multitude of pass rushers is a plus, so expect to see a pick or two go into OLB. I personally expect Kruger to be back, so a guy in the mold of Antwan Barnes may be the pick.

Midseason Notes:
Suggs and Upshaw are the starters next year. McClellan will likely be back since he's playing pretty well. Kruger is an unknown, so I expect a mid to late round pick to be used on a pass rushing linebacker. Suggs coming back has been huge, and it's only been 1 game.

CB:
Under Contract: Lardarius Webb, Jimmy Smith, Corey Graham, Chykie Brown, Asa Jackson
UFA: Cary Williams

Notes:
Whether or not CB is addressed in the draft depends on Cary. If he re-signs, then it's unlikely we'd spend a draft pick on a CB. If he goes elsewhere, maybe they go for one in the mid to late rounds. It's not a big need, but something to at least consider.

Midseason Notes:
CB has turned into a need. Cary Williams is likely to leave during FA. Webb tore his ACL, so his recovery is kind of cloudy at this point. Jimmy Smith hasn't been playing too well, although there's still time for him. There's just too much uncertainty for us not to address the position, whether that be in the draft or free agency.

S:
Under Contract: Bernard Pollard, Christian Thompson
UFA: Ed Reed, James Ihedigbo, Sean Considine, Emanuel Cook
Retirement: Ed Reed?
PS: Omar Brown, Anthony Levine

Notes:
Ed Reed will either re-sign or retire. Regardless, it's time to look to a replacement. Thompson may or may not be the guy. Whether or not the team deems it as a need remains to be seen. Either way, a S will be picked somewhere in the draft, early or late.

Midseason Notes:
Pollard is still the starter at SS, and Reed is likely to be the starter at FS. Thompson is the only sure backup, so still expect a pick to be used. The safety class is pretty good this year, so we may wait and pick one up later than expected.

ST:
Under Contract: Sam Koch
Rights Held: Morgan Cox, Justin Tucker

Notes:
All of these guys will be on the roster next year. Even if something happens to one of them, don't expect a draft pick to be used.

Notes:
Nothing to add, except Tucker has been as good as advertised.




Final Notes:
LT, MLB, FS, OLB are the biggest needs, with some other positions being worthy of depth/talent available picks.

Midseason Final Notes:
DL, OL (TBD), MLB, FS, with potential for CB and OLB are now the biggest needs in the 2013 draft.

Edited by rmw10, 29 October 2012 - 11:47 AM.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 11:41 PM

I'm bored, so I'll run down each position and evaluate who we may need in the draft.

QB:
Under Contract: Tyrod Taylor
UFA: Joe Flacco

Notes:
Joe Flacco will be re-signed, so no need to worry there. This isn't much of a need, but the team may decide to use a late round pick on a developmental guy. Tyrod could be in danger next year.

RB:
Under Contract: Ray Rice, Bernard Pierce, Vonta Leach (FB)
RFA: Damien Berry
ERFA: Bobby Rainey

Notes:
Again, there isn't much of a need here. The team may decide to use a late round pick on a RB for depth purposes, but it's doubtful since all of our RFAs will likely be signed. Ray Rice, Vonta Leach, and Bernard Pierce are locks.

WR:
Under Contract: Anquan Boldin, Torrey Smith, Jacoby Jones, Tandon Doss, Tommy Streeter, David Reed
RFA: LaQuan Williams
ERFA: Deonte Thompson

Notes:
Torrey is the only guarantee here. No Boldin? He's a prime cut candidate with his salary. I'm not sure the team would make this move, but it's possible. Jacoby will likely get cut. We'd most likely have Torrey, Doss, Q2, Deonte, and Streeter heading into next year if they decided to cut Boldin. A WR is a possibility, but not the most important since it's likely Boldin will stay. Just throwing out the possibilities.

TE:
RFA: Ed Dickson, Dennis Pitta
UFA: Billy Bajema

Notes:
Dickson and Pitta will almost assuredly be re-signed. Bajema will head back out on the FA market. The team could opt to draft a late round blocker or hit up the FA market again. Not a big need.

OL:
Under Contract: Kelechi Osemele, Matt Birk, Marshal Yanda, Michael Oher, Jah Reid, Gino Gradkowski, Bobbie Williams
RFA: Ramon Harewood
UFA: Bryant McKinnie
Retirement: Matt Birk?

Notes: Clearly the biggest need. 3 to 4 starters are set, and LT is a huge hole. Bobbie Williams will likely be let go, so expect multiple picks to be used on offensive lineman, both exterior and interior. LT?/Oher - Osemele/LG? - Birk/Gradkowski - Yanda - Oher/Osemele seems to be the preliminary depth chart for now. Reid and Harewood are unknowns at this point. Too much uncertainty to leave untouched in the draft.

DL:
Under Contract: Haloti Ngata, Terrence Cody, Pernell McPhee, DeAngelo Tyson
RFA: Arthur Jones, Bryan Hall
UFA: Ma'ake Kemoeatu, Ryan McBean

Notes: The starters are pretty much set. Jones will be back to go along with McPhee, Cody, and Ngata on the line. Tyson is good depth. Hall is an unknown, and Kemo will likely hit the FA market again since he's on a 1 year deal. A late round depth pick could be used, but this position is pretty solid.

MLB:
Under Contract: Ray Lewis, Jameel McClain, Brendon Ayanbadejo
UFA: Dannell Ellerbe
Retirement: Ray Lewis?

Notes: McClain will definitely be in the middle. Everyone else is a big question mark. Ray Lewis could finally hang them up. Ayanbadejo is a ST guy for the most part. Ellerbe could head elsewhere. Expect the team to use a high to mid round pick to shore up the middle, even though MLB isn't as big of a need anymore.

OLB:
Under Contract: Terrell Suggs, Courtney Upshaw
RFA: Albert McClellan, Sergio Kindle, Michael McAdoo
UFA: Paul Kruger

Notes: Hopefully Upshaw or Kruger can put it together and make it easy to bypass this in the draft. Regardless of whether they prove themselves or not, a multitude of pass rushers is a plus, so expect to see a pick or two go into OLB. I personally expect Kruger to be back, so a guy in the mold of Antwan Barnes may be the pick.

CB:
Under Contract: Lardarius Webb, Jimmy Smith, Corey Graham, Chykie Brown, Asa Jackson
UFA: Cary Williams

Notes: Whether or not CB is addressed in the draft depends on Cary. If he re-signs, then it's unlikely we'd spend a draft pick on a CB. If he goes elsewhere, maybe they go for one in the mid to late rounds. It's not a big need, but something to at least consider.

S:
Under Contract: Bernard Pollard, Christian Thompson
UFA: Ed Reed, James Ihedigbo, Sean Considine, Emanuel Cook
Retirement: Ed Reed?

Notes: Ed Reed will either re-sign or retire. Regardless, it's time to look to a replacement. Thompson may or may not be the guy. Whether or not the team deems it as a need remains to be seen. Either way, a S will be picked somewhere in the draft, early or late.

ST:
Under Contract: Sam Koch
RFA: Morgan Cox
ERFA: Justin Tucker

Notes: All of these guys will be on the roster next year. Even if something happens to one of them, don't expect a draft pick to be used.




Final Notes: LT, MLB, FS, OLB are the biggest needs, with some other positions being worthy of depth/talent available picks.


Hmmm not bad at all...i think our first pick we be a linebacker or a safety, they have C. thompson at SS so we might be looking for reed's replacement

i think we will draft oline first if we dont see a worthy linebacker or safety in the first then i think we all know we will trade it away if anything

Now as for MLB? i prefer a high draft pick but Albert McClellan still started when ray was out so he could move there, ellerbe could be released i wouldnt care(sorry)

Cary could be released if he doesnt sign our deal which means he cant be overpaid in anyway, would we go in to next season with 5 cbs? nope but i feel comfortable with the rest of the five and maybe gorrer comes back if he isnt signed to another team

LT? we have a solution so a backup plan and thats oher at LT, but i think he is way better at RT so i prefer a better option at LT, then that leaves KO who could be anywhere but center. Jah reid is probably a backup RT then ....well... i dont know about the left side or RT really...i see cornell making the team next year though

Im cool with jacoby being released next year but i think Doss has to be on the bubble during the offseason, im guessing u have david reed being released which he is overdue on that but that leaves Q2(worth cost much to keep)torrey, thompson, streeter, and Doss(which i dont think he should be) all on the roster for sure

Boldin is close to his end and we might cut him for money purposes eventho i think we shouldnt, jacoby can be cut just depends on how he performs this season, Doss should be on the bubble and until he shows me some plays then im always gonna want for him to be cut

Expect more competiton for taylor for sure

im good with your draft/team needs.....i just rather for once if we are going to trade our first rd pick i rather trade it for a next year first rd pick, i rather take that chance because you never know that team could do awful and we luck up for a 10-20 pick in the draft
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Posted 10 September 2012 - 03:41 PM

Too early to call the O-line an area of need.

Unless Ray retires next year (doubtful) we don't have any needs provided the guys we're counting on for depth this year pan out. Maybe backup QB if you really care, but it'd be pointless to address that in the draft.
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Posted 11 September 2012 - 12:01 AM

I'd say maybe getting another OLB or safety would be good. Receiver is another position in the 2nd where I would take a shot at BPA.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 02:07 PM

I know this was posted before the season started but I REALLY like Jacoby Jones. I think he brings a great dynamic to the receiving corps and a quality speed option on the outside with Torrey. If it wasn't for the refs he would've been the hero at Philly last Sunday.
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Posted 21 September 2012 - 08:20 PM

I know this was posted before the season started but I REALLY like Jacoby Jones. I think he brings a great dynamic to the receiving corps and a quality speed option on the outside with Torrey. If it wasn't for the refs he would've been the hero at Philly last Sunday.


I agree. It's a difficult spot. He'd be pretty expensive next year though, but with Boldin struggling to get separation and Jones' price tag, would we really be comfortable with Torrey as the only "established" option? It's weird how quickly a strength could turn into a weakness. Hopefully Jones makes next years contract look worth it or Boldin can start getting some separation.
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 12:17 PM

With the way Jacoby has started this season, I think it's fairly obvious that if we don't resign him long-term we need to find another receiver similar to him. I didn't know what to expect from him as an individual, but physically he IS the perfect Air Coryell prototype - he has the speed to get downfield and the size to win one-on-one matchups with corners and safeties. I don't know what the odds are on Terrance Williams falling all the way down to the bottom of the first, but if Jacoby leaves after next season Williams might be a good fit to replace him.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 06:22 PM

With the way Jacoby has started this season, I think it's fairly obvious that if we don't resign him long-term we need to find another receiver similar to him. I didn't know what to expect from him as an individual, but physically he IS the perfect Air Coryell prototype - he has the speed to get downfield and the size to win one-on-one matchups with corners and safeties. I don't know what the odds are on Terrance Williams falling all the way down to the bottom of the first, but if Jacoby leaves after next season Williams might be a good fit to replace him.

Jacoby is signed to a 2 year contract with us. If he continues this play he won't be gone next year.

As for the needs from what I have seen so far, I would have to say:

DE/DT, MLB, OLB*, CB, OT, S.

We need a DE opposite of Ngata. We need someone dominant, like a JJ Watt. If we get a DE/DT like that then I guarantee you our defense will totally change. I like McPhee and Jones, and perhaps they will become that. At this time, I can't say I see it. Thus, I feel like we really need to get a guy who be opposite of Ngata. I love Cody, actually. I think he is very good. I think if we get another Ngata then you will see a huge improvement from Cody.

MLB is next, only because I like Ellerbe and McClain but I don't see them yet as Ray Lewis replacements and honestly I am hopeful that we can get Manti Te'o. Manti would fit us perfectly.

OLB: this isn't a dire need. Once Suggs returns we have our ROLB back. The LOLB is definitely Upshaw. Kruger will most likely be gone, once again not because he sucks or anything but I see him being another Zbikowski--good but we have better. We must get depth, though. McAdoo looked good but who knows how he recovers from the Achilles. McClellan looks good but no pass rush, or not a lot. McClain and McClellan are two guys I like because they can play inside and outside. Kindle is a huge question mark.

CB: Cary will be gone. Unless Jackson or Brown step up big, we need a 3rd CB. Could be a high need.

S: not a huge need but we need to get a safety because it's a nice class. Reed will be re-signed, I believe. I have 100% faith we keep Reed. I see him getting a 3 or 2 year deal.
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 07:20 PM

Jacoby is signed to a 2 year contract with us. If he continues this play he won't be gone next year.

As for the needs from what I have seen so far, I would have to say:

DE/DT, MLB, OLB*, CB, OT, S.

We need a DE opposite of Ngata. We need someone dominant, like a JJ Watt. If we get a DE/DT like that then I guarantee you our defense will totally change. I like McPhee and Jones, and perhaps they will become that. At this time, I can't say I see it. Thus, I feel like we really need to get a guy who be opposite of Ngata. I love Cody, actually. I think he is very good. I think if we get another Ngata then you will see a huge improvement from Cody.

MLB is next, only because I like Ellerbe and McClain but I don't see them yet as Ray Lewis replacements and honestly I am hopeful that we can get Manti Te'o. Manti would fit us perfectly.

OLB: this isn't a dire need. Once Suggs returns we have our ROLB back. The LOLB is definitely Upshaw. Kruger will most likely be gone, once again not because he sucks or anything but I see him being another Zbikowski--good but we have better. We must get depth, though. McAdoo looked good but who knows how he recovers from the Achilles. McClellan looks good but no pass rush, or not a lot. McClain and McClellan are two guys I like because they can play inside and outside. Kindle is a huge question mark.

CB: Cary will be gone. Unless Jackson or Brown step up big, we need a 3rd CB. Could be a high need.

S: not a huge need but we need to get a safety because it's a nice class. Reed will be re-signed, I believe. I have 100% faith we keep Reed. I see him getting a 3 or 2 year deal.


Yeah I'm not as worried about MLB as other positions. Big reason is I just don't see a need for a dominant guy, so a guy drafted in a later round would be just as useful as a first rounder. As far as a DE, I'm looking at Alex Okafor out of Texas (don't know why, but I really like all of the DE/OLB types that have been coming out of Texas recently).
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 07:35 PM

Jacoby is signed to a 2 year contract with us. If he continues this play he won't be gone next year.


If I remember correctly he signed a 2 year deal worth $7 million. He is set to earn $1 million this year so he will most likely be cut and resigned or just re-negotiate his contract at the end of the year.
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 07:37 PM

Yeah I'm not as worried about MLB as other positions. Big reason is I just don't see a need for a dominant guy, so a guy drafted in a later round would be just as useful as a first rounder. As far as a DE, I'm looking at Alex Okafor out of Texas (don't know why, but I really like all of the DE/OLB types that have been coming out of Texas recently).

By DE I mean DE/DT, not OLB. The guys I am watching in this category are:

Lotulelei (Utah), Hankins (Ohio State), Williams (Alabama), Hunt (SMU), Floyd (Florida), Vellano (Maryland), Easley (Florida). I mean, Hankins & Lotulelei look to be the top two picks. I doubt we get a shot at those guys but it's a long college season so who knows. Hunt has looked really good. A friend of mine who is really into the draft told me about him and I've been trying to catch their games. Of course I watch some Maryland games, so I have seen Vellano and liked what I saw. Floyd & Easley are both solid players for Florida. And then there is Williams from Alabama, who looks pretty solid.

Again, I really want Manti because I think he would be perfect here. If I had it my way, it would be like this:
1st Round: Manti Te'o, MLB
2nd Round: DE, like Vellano, Easley, Floyd, or Williams. One should be there.
3rd Round: Get an OLB here. Should have a good one.
4th Round: Take a safety here, it's a nice class. Get a guy who can be a CB & S.
5th Round: Take an OT. We need depth.
6th Round: Get another OLB. We need depth.
7th Round: New defensive coordinator. Lol, I kid.
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 10:33 PM

My take on needs - FS, DE/DT, MLB, OLB, CB, Backup QB, C

gonna try to mix it up... i think this would be good.

2nd (trade back) - Eric Reid (S, LSU)
2nd - Andrew Jackson (MLB, WKU)
3rd - Travis Long (LB, Washington State)
3rd (from trade) - Desmond Trufant (CB, Washington)
4th (proj comp) - Stedman Bailey (WR, West Virginia)
4th - Derek Carr (QB, Fresno State)
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Posted 25 September 2012 - 01:55 PM

CB is becoming more and more a need.

Edited by PolishRifle, 25 September 2012 - 01:55 PM.

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 02:34 PM

CB is becoming more and more a need.


i said this after the falcons game but everybody is saying calm down.... well i'm not. i put a corner in almost every mock i have so far unless we get somebody like dj moore in FA.
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Posted 25 September 2012 - 02:49 PM

i said this after the falcons game but everybody is saying calm down.... well i'm not. i put a corner in almost every mock i have so far unless we get somebody like dj moore in FA.


After QBs and WRs CBs are the most priced commodity. Welcome to the pass happy NFL, baby. ;) To get a CB that can change our D, we would have to trade way way UP.
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Posted 25 September 2012 - 03:07 PM

After QBs and WRs CBs are the most priced commodity. Welcome to the pass happy NFL, baby. ;) To get a CB that can change our D, we would have to trade way way UP.


well we just need someone better than cary and that shouldn't be hard. a guy like trufant or hyde in the middle rounds will be fine with me. after all, it is only the 3rd corner spot, right? i wouldn't waste another 1st round pick just to defend a 3rd WR unless our defense is stacked like the 9ers or texans but thats not the case right now. we have a needs everywhere on our defense.
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Posted 25 September 2012 - 03:12 PM

well we just need someone better than cary and that shouldn't be hard. a guy like trufant or hyde in the middle rounds will be fine with me. after all, it is only the 3rd corner spot, right? i wouldn't waste another 1st round pick just to defend a 3rd WR unless our defense is stacked like the 9ers or texans but thats not the case right now. we have a needs everywhere on our defense.

Yeah, I agree with this. We can use another CB. Only thing is I feel like we should opt for a safety instead. We have some nice CBs in Brown, Jackson. Those are developmental guys. I say get a CB that can play FS or vice versa. Pretty talented safety class so it shouldn't be too difficult.

I'd go with a LB or DT/DE with our 1st round pick. I still like Te'o in the 1st. If not him then I definitely think we need a DL opposite of Ngata. Teams try to double him a lot. Having him and another guy take double teams with Cody in the middle will be huge. Our front 3 need to get better.

We also need OLBs for depth. That's my assessment of the defensive needs. Our line really needs work, though.
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Posted 25 September 2012 - 03:13 PM

My take on needs - FS, DE/DT, MLB, OLB, CB, Backup QB, C

gonna try to mix it up... i think this would be good.

2nd (trade back) - Eric Reid (S, LSU)
2nd - Andrew Jackson (MLB, WKU)
3rd - Travis Long (LB, Washington State)
3rd (from trade) - Desmond Trufant (CB, Washington)
4th (proj comp) - Stedman Bailey (WR, West Virginia)
4th - Derek Carr (QB, Fresno State)
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I like your mock draft where we get Eric Reid in the second, but I don't see it happening to be honest. Still, it's a nice fantasy.^^
You know from previous posts that I like Shayne Skov to be our MLB. He could've been a 1st rounder, if it were not for the injury.
I don't get the WR pick. Aren't we loaded on WR?
I do get the Carr pick, but the Ravens are too sold on Taylor to pick up another backup QB (besides, I am pretty sure we will never really have to use our backup anyway).
I looked up Long and was not impressed. Can you explain why you like him?
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Posted 25 September 2012 - 04:14 PM

I like your mock draft where we get Eric Reid in the second, but I don't see it happening to be honest. Still, it's a nice fantasy.^^
You know from previous posts that I like Shayne Skov to be our MLB. He could've been a 1st rounder, if it were not for the injury.
I don't get the WR pick. Aren't we loaded on WR?
I do get the Carr pick, but the Ravens are too sold on Taylor to pick up another backup QB (besides, I am pretty sure we will never really have to use our backup anyway).
I looked up Long and was not impressed. Can you explain why you like him?


i think the reid thing does sound realistic. all the early safeties (jefferson, mcdonald, vacarro) have played well so far but reid didn't necessarily move up on the others if you will. sounds like a classic ozzie move. drafting a guy with the same name gives me a weird feeling in a good way. why do you not see another trade back coming?

sure we have plenty of depth but another speed guy in the slot that starts would be great after life without Q. he might come back for 2013 and judge me if you wish but i'm not high on doss. the pick is very far from likely but that is my sexy pick for the later rounds. i've said many times he is an antonio brown clone. he runs great routes and breaks tackles in space. if ray rice was taller he would've been a top 20 pick and bailey would be ranked higher too but he's short.

about long, i just wanted to fill LB position after the 2nd round and i think he is the best one at that spot. you might be judging long off his past couple of years but just switched to 3-4 OLB and started producing well thus far (kruger had the same problem). more production this season and i'll be more sold on him.
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Posted 25 September 2012 - 04:19 PM

Yeah, I agree with this. We can use another CB. Only thing is I feel like we should opt for a safety instead. We have some nice CBs in Brown, Jackson. Those are developmental guys. I say get a CB that can play FS or vice versa. Pretty talented safety class so it shouldn't be too difficult.

I'd go with a LB or DT/DE with our 1st round pick. I still like Te'o in the 1st. If not him then I definitely think we need a DL opposite of Ngata. Teams try to double him a lot. Having him and another guy take double teams with Cody in the middle will be huge. Our front 3 need to get better.

We also need OLBs for depth. That's my assessment of the defensive needs. Our line really needs work, though.


kuechly was certainly not the standard as far as where LB's go in the 1st but te'o has been so good he is becoming as far out of reach as fellow ND teammate michael floyd last year who i loved. teams like seattle, denver, and pittsburgh i see scouting this guy hard all year and i think we are better than all those teams.

Edited by RavensWin09, 25 September 2012 - 04:22 PM.

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