KO at Tackle

[T3hRaven]

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Aaron Wilson is reporting that KO expects to start at tackle, which likely puts Oher back on the left side. KO might be the better option at RT, but with Oher on the left side Flacco is going to be on his butt a lot on Monday.

[Dubs]

Not sure what to think of this. He has looked really good at RT as well as LG, I would prefer him at LG. However it may be best as Oher gets to prove himself again at LT for a couple of seasons before his contract is up and we have to pay him LT dollars

[gabefergy]

I'm glad KO is starting, but from what I have seen out of Bobbie Williams I would rather see him play LG. Either way I think this is a good move. Not much difference between Oher and Mckinnie at LT IMO.

[JO_75]

What about McKinnie? Didn't we just restructure his contract so he would stay? Why isn't he at Left Tackle with Oher at Right Tackle and KO at Left Guard? Harbs needs to stop moving the offensive line around and keep them at one position.

[BmoreRav]

Maybe that was another reason behind the McKinnie restructure. They didn't want to pay $3.2m to a back-up since they've made the decision to go with Oher and KO at Tackle! The incentives added to McKinnie's contract are based on playing time I believe.

[izvoodoo]

Although Oher is not ideal at left tackle, he still may very be better than McKinnie. I wanted KO to play LG since Reid can play RT and we don't have a LG waiting in the the wings, but that's fine.

[berad]

Did he SAY he was starting at RT? The quote Wilson provided doesn't specify.

[JO_75]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1347127649' post='1142349']
Did he SAY he was starting at RT? The quote Wilson provided doesn't specify.
[/quote]

True, but all I know is that it is confirmed that Oher is starting at Left Tackle. Who is going to be our LG if KO is at RT?

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1347127909' post='1142353']


True, but all I know is that it is confirmed that Oher is starting at Left Tackle. Who is going to be our LG if KO is at RT?
[/quote]uggh Williams? Jeesh

[BmoreRav]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1347127649' post='1142349']
Did he SAY he was starting at RT? The quote Wilson provided doesn't specify.
[/quote]

He said "I think so, it looks that way" when asked if he was.

[JO_75]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1347128014' post='1142354']
uggh Williams? Jeesh
[/quote]

Yeah like I said, Harbs messes everything up when he thinks he can move players around constantly without no harm. Oher hasn't been able to be as good as he can be because he keeps moving so much he can't get use to playing at one spot. I think KO makes a better Guard in the NFL and he should be our starting LG, not our RT. Oher should still be our RT and McKinnie shouldn't be our backup when he did so well for us last year.

[TimeEdReed]

Has anyone wondered....if we had known we would be cutting Cundiff, could that money have maybe been used to keep Grubbs?

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1347128410' post='1142360']


Yeah like I said, Harbs messes everything up when he thinks he can move players around constantly without no harm. Oher hasn't been able to be as good as he can be because he keeps moving so much he can't get use to playing at one spot. I think KO makes a better Guard in the NFL and he should be our starting LG, not our RT. Oher should still be our RT and McKinnie shouldn't be our backup when he did so well for us last year.
[/quote]McKinnie did not do so well for us. He wasn't much better than oher overall tbh. His pass blocking was a better but his run blocking was considerably worse, a wash all in all pretty much. And obviously the ravens think so as well.

Some people need to get of McKinnies jock. Now if your arguing our line is better as a WHOLE with McKinnie left oher right and ko guard than oher ko and Williams, that I'll agree with, but to say McKinnie was much better overall than oher at lt isn't true

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='TimeEdReed' timestamp='1347128491' post='1142362']
Has anyone wondered....if we had known we would be cutting Cundiff, could that money have maybe been used to keep Grubbs?
[/quote]Think we saved 1.8 mil, that cold have been used on Ben, but then next year we have a lot of dead cap countering it, so it was pretty much a wash all in all... I think, well theyre the numbers I have in my head from somewhere, and you also have to consider Grubbs may have wanted to go to the saints as he went for pretty much nothing extra, a mil or so over the course of 5 years and 30mil deal

[Alexir]

"That OL is gonna have so much character! "-harbs

[arnie_uk]

I actually wish he kept his mouth shut, the team doesn't like revealing to much to early, I bet the bengals are a bit surprised now

[cobrajet]

I am still confused....is KO starting at LG for Bobbie Williams or is McKinnie out and KO is starting RT while Oher moves to LT. I thought our best line would be McKinnie, Williams, Birk, Yanda, and Oher.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='cobrajet' timestamp='1347129388' post='1142377']
I am still confused....is KO starting at LG for Bobbie Williams or is McKinnie out and KO is starting RT while Oher moves to LT. I thought our best line would be McKinnie, Williams, Birk, Yanda, and Oher.
[/quote]The question was rt tackle and the answer was pertty much yes. And they ain't dropping oher. Swap wIlliams for ko and I think that's our best line, Williams has shown he isn't what he used to be so far, but maybe having birk beside him and not gino would have helped, but he just didn't look hot in preseason, we're ko did, minus playing long.

Who is the Lolb and left end of cincy, I know the players, just not sure who's left and right, can't remember.

[berad]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1347127909' post='1142353']
True, but all I know is that it is confirmed that Oher is starting at Left Tackle. Who is going to be our LG if KO is at RT?
[/quote]

I see, thanks. Williams is the guard starter I guess

[Purple Nurple]

I wonder why this move is being made. Very confused/nervous.

[ravens88]

Im just going to side with the FO on this but not with complete confidence i could see LG but RT has me leery but they must see something.. i hope..

[Corvus]

With the way the McKinnie situation has been going, I trust this lineup of Oher-Williams(if he is truly healthy again)-Birk-Yanda-Osemele more than one with McKinnie as a starter.

[nk02442]

I think this Oline is going to cause us to go 6-10 to 8-8 at best. They are just garbage. The only one who should even be a starter is Yanda. Mckinney is old, fat, slow, and lazy. Bobby williams is a washed up vet. Birk gets dominated off the line every snap, ever wonder why the pocket collaspes and we cant run up the gut? Oher is dumb as a box of rocks, who occasionaly shows flashes of deceny, only to be taken back to reality by a fasle start and a missed block.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1347139712' post='1142454']
I think this Oline is going to cause us to go 6-10 to 8-8 at best. They are just garbage. The only one who should even be a starter is Yanda. Mckinney is old, fat, slow, and lazy. Bobby williams is a washed up vet. Birk gets dominated off the line every snap, ever wonder why the pocket collaspes and we cant run up the gut? Oher is dumb as a box of rocks, who occasionaly shows flashes of deceny, only to be taken back to reality by a fasle start and a missed block.
[/quote]
I think this post should be negged at least 20 times because it really shows a lack of knowledge about our offensive line and team as a whole.

[nk02442]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1347140172' post='1142460']
I think this post should be negged at least 20 times because it really shows a lack of knowledge about our offensive line and team as a whole.
[/quote]

Please elaborate?

Mckinney was not over weight? DId not fake an injury beacuse he was too lazy to loose the weight. I know it was hard going out and drinking every night in Miami when your suposed to be loosing weight, right after the team agreed to pick up a $500,000 option beacuse you promised them you would do everything to get your weight down and stay healthy. Screw BM. The ravens were the only team willign to give him a shot, payed him well and he will not be a man and hold up his end of the bargain.

Bobby Williams is not a 35 year old gaurd, coming off a broken ankle? He is going to get DOMINATED, just like birk does by guys 10 years younger and stronger. Teams do not cut starting Lineman unless they have a good reason.

Birk was a 6 time pro bowler..... yup.... all in minosota before he came here. Ravens overpaid him and he has always been injured in some way. I really like Matt Birk, and he is the smartest player on the team, which I also respect. But he is undersized and really is overmatched. Did you conviently miss how Vince Willfork was steam rolling him last year in the AFCC. Ever wonder why we never run right up the gut, and ray is always bounching off his back or one of the guards. He gets beat 1-1 almost every snap.

Yanda is my boy. I love this kid. He is the essense of an Oline man. He is tough, strong, smart, and did I say tough? He is here to play ball. You wont read about him beating his wife or out clubbing with a bunch of idiots. He is the standard that the rest of the line should stive for.

Last but not least Oher. Oher is dumb, thats not even disuputable. He dropped in the draft beacuse teams thought he couldnt handle the mental aspect of the game. He takes plays off. He is a bad LT. I would consider him an avg to slightly below avg right tackle. He needs to work on his pass pro. I wouldnt be opposed to keeping him around for 2 mill a year, but someone will overpay him based on that silly movie, so consider him gone.


There you have it. 1 pro bowl level player, one average player and 3 bums. I forgot more about the ravens then you will probally ever know. Enjoy.

[raybaby]

lolz.

[Alexir]

[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1347141081' post='1142469']


Please elaborate?

Mckinney was not over weight? DId not fake an injury beacuse he was too lazy to loose the weight. I know it was hard going out and drinking every night in Miami when your suposed to be loosing weight, right after the team agreed to pick up a $500,000 option beacuse you promised them you would do everything to get your weight down and stay healthy. Screw BM. The ravens were the only team willign to give him a shot, payed him well and he will not be a man and hold up his end of the bargain.

Bobby Williams is not a 35 year old gaurd, coming off a broken ankle? He is going to get DOMINATED, just like birk does by guys 10 years younger and stronger. Teams do not cut starting Lineman unless they have a good reason.

Birk was a 6 time pro bowler..... yup.... all in minosota before he came here. Ravens overpaid him and he has always been injured in some way. I really like Matt Birk, and he is the smartest player on the team, which I also respect. But he is undersized and really is overmatched. Did you conviently miss how Vince Willfork was steam rolling him last year in the AFCC. Ever wonder why we never run right up the gut, and ray is always bounching off his back or one of the guards. He gets beat 1-1 almost every snap.

Yanda is my boy. I love this kid. He is the essense of an Oline man. He is tough, strong, smart, and did I say tough? He is here to play ball. You wont read about him beating his wife or out clubbing with a bunch of idiots. He is the standard that the rest of the line should stive for.

Last but not least Oher. Oher is dumb, thats not even disuputable. He dropped in the draft beacuse teams thought he couldnt handle the mental aspect of the game. He takes plays off. He is a bad LT. I would consider him an avg to slightly below avg right tackle. He needs to work on his pass pro. I wouldnt be opposed to keeping him around for 2 mill a year, but someone will overpay him based on that silly movie, so consider him gone.


There you have it. 1 pro bowl level player, one average player and 3 bums. I forgot more about the ravens then you will probally ever know. Enjoy.
[/quote]

Let me get this straight...You are calling Mike Oher dumb and you have that many spelling and grammar mistakes in doing so?!



But on topic, I agree that this is an old, beat up line and I am concerned with how Bryant, Bob, and Matt will hold up all season.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1347141081' post='1142469']


Please elaborate?

Mckinney was not over weight? DId not fake an injury beacuse he was too lazy to loose the weight. I know it was hard going out and drinking every night in Miami when your suposed to be loosing weight, right after the team agreed to pick up a $500,000 option beacuse you promised them you would do everything to get your weight down and stay healthy. Screw BM. The ravens were the only team willign to give him a shot, payed him well and he will not be a man and hold up his end of the bargain.

Bobby Williams is not a 35 year old gaurd, coming off a broken ankle? He is going to get DOMINATED, just like birk does by guys 10 years younger and stronger. Teams do not cut starting Lineman unless they have a good reason.

Birk was a 6 time pro bowler..... yup.... all in minosota before he came here. Ravens overpaid him and he has always been injured in some way. I really like Matt Birk, and he is the smartest player on the team, which I also respect. But he is undersized and really is overmatched. Did you conviently miss how Vince Willfork was steam rolling him last year in the AFCC. Ever wonder why we never run right up the gut, and ray is always bounching off his back or one of the guards. He gets beat 1-1 almost every snap.

Yanda is my boy. I love this kid. He is the essense of an Oline man. He is tough, strong, smart, and did I say tough? He is here to play ball. You wont read about him beating his wife or out clubbing with a bunch of idiots. He is the standard that the rest of the line should stive for.

Last but not least Oher. Oher is dumb, thats not even disuputable. He dropped in the draft beacuse teams thought he couldnt handle the mental aspect of the game. He takes plays off. He is a bad LT. I would consider him an avg to slightly below avg right tackle. He needs to work on his pass pro. I wouldnt be opposed to keeping him around for 2 mill a year, but someone will overpay him based on that silly movie, so consider him gone.


There you have it. 1 pro bowl level player, one average player and 3 bums. I forgot more about the ravens then you will probally ever know. Enjoy.
[/quote]

Lol what a joke.

[RavensWin09]

just because an oline is old doesn't mean they get dominated every game. that said, the no huddle offense will just put less pressure on our oline to hold up so i don't see it as much of a problem.

[Free Agent]

I am pretty pleased with this. Bryant McKinnie's restructured contract hinted at a lessened role for him. I kinda expected this move to be made next season when McKinnie's contract expires, but it seems we went ahead and made the move a year early. Yanda and KO make for a nasty right side of the line, and I think at worst Oher will play as good as McKinnie did. It seems like a good move to me.