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[da#1ravensfan]

Is Joe Flacco going to surpass Big Ben as the better quarterback this season?

Other than Super Bowls it's closer than you think.

[FerrariFan87]

I think it's certainly possible, especially if the no-huddle offense takes off.

[Crabcakes&Football]

Between Joe Flacco maturing as a Quarterback and the toll Ben's body has taken, I can see it happening. I thought that Joe was the better of the two last year.

[CosmicRedPanda]

Flacco is maturing. Roethlisberger is degrading. I think that pretty much says it all.

~ Malkavian Raven

[gabefergy]

Yes. I believe Flacco will have a better season statistically. Big Ben still has the 2 rings (although his first ring is kind of a joke) and he has some crazy ability to extend plays and find a wide open receiver, but he also makes more bad decisions than Joe.

Think about this: Big Ben has won 2 SBs but has zero SB MVPs. His WRs have gotten that award twice so what does that tell you? Here is another perspective: If Santonio Holmes doesnt make the most ridiculous catch in the history of the SB and if Lee Evans hangs onto a perfect pass from Joe Flacco how much differently are these two QBs perceived?

Finally, if we are talking about which QB I would rather have moving forward it's Flacco and not even close. Not only is Flacco younger (and I would argue a more talented passer) he doesnt have the years of sacks and injuries that Ben has accrued.

[AsianRice]

Flacco is maturing. Roethlisberger is degrading. I think that pretty much says it all.

~ Malkavian Raven

Additionally, Flacco's OLine is improving and Roethlisberger's Oline is declining......

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

No.

It happened last year.

[tsizzle95]

i think if we can run an offense where Joe is allowed to audible and really take control of it, then yeah.. but if we just give rice the ball and then tell joe to get us out of this hole with only a 2 wr set, then its not going to happen.. jim caldwell seems to be the biggest offseason move we made. the sugar huddle stuff if looking real good, i just hope after one bad game we just ditch it

[Ravensfan23]

Flacco easily. Ben has never been a good QB imo, he still struggles reading blitz and finding his hot routes, he continues to struggle with his overall ability to read coverages. Plus he's in his 9th or 10th year, so he'll probably never improve in these areas.

Imo Ben is the passing version of Tebow. As a true QB he isn't very good, but because of his physical stature, it's tough to tackle him which allows him to extend the play. Where Tebow will look to run, Ben is always looking to throw deep, almost to a fault. But that's what makes him good. He'll make that big play more often then not.

I find it interesting that noone really views Ben as QB that relies heavily on his running game and great defense, despite the fact that he's only thrown for 4,000 yards in 3 of his 10 seasons and has passed for 20+ TDs only twice.

Imo Flacco is already the better QB, people outside of Baltimore will just start to take notice. I think the comparison that'll be much more fun to see played out is....Flacco vs Peyton. With Joe running the Peyton style offense, many will make that comparison and i feel Flacco will outperform Peyton this year

[BMORElegacy]

It all depends on the coordinators. Will Pitt's offense respond to Todd Haley? Will Cam break the habits that have been hamstringing this offense for years and utilize the no-huddle?

While both teams still identify themselves as power running teams with stout defenses, there has been significant development of both passing attacks. With the likes of Wallace and Torrey, the poster-boys of smash mouth football are receiving a drastic makeover in an effort to stay competitive in this new passing league.

If the no-huddle becomes a mainstay in Bmore I see Joe blowing up this year and becoming a top 5-10 quarterback statistically.

[da#1ravensfan]

I can see Flacco is a more polished quarterback as he can make way more plays within the context of the offense way better than Roethlisberger already. Roethlisberger is better than any other quarterback in improvising the play, while Flacco has made significant steps in this department.

Overall I think Roethlisberger has reached his ceiling as a qb and his play will start to descend as Flacco is just hitting his prime. Flacco outplayed Roethlisberger the last 3 times we played him. I think he will clearly succeed him as the better passer this year.

[awholelottahaloti]

No.

It happened last year.

There's truth to this.

Which would you rather have had as your QB last year?

[ratedr]

It's actually scaring the hell out of me.

Two NFLN analysts on who they think is going to have a bigger year, Flacco or Big Ben. The answer is not what you'd expect:

http://www.nfl.com/v..._content_stream

There are many more examples of course, but this is just the most recent instance.

[RavensWin09]

will just be more disappointing with all this hype if he doesn't produce. i'm confident he will produce though. loving torreys progression this preseason.

o yeah, antonio brown was "andre brown" in the video. LOL

charlie and solomon are probably my most trusted analysts at NFLN and not just because they said flacco in this video. always have enjoyed their opinions. i can't say the same for heath evans (trash) and sapp (just stop)

[ratedr]

will just be more disappointing with all this hype if he doesn't produce. i'm confident he will produce though. loving torreys progression this preseason.

o yeah, antonio brown was "andre brown" in the video. LOL

charlie and solomon are probably my most trusted analysts at NFLN and not just because they said flacco in this video. always have enjoyed their opinions. i can't say the same for heath evans (trash) and sapp (just stop)

My thoughts exactly. The backlash that will occur...oh man. That's why this hype scares me. I liked what I saw in preseason but we've heard about this potentially potent Ravens offense before and it hasn't happened yet...

[K-Dog]

I say Flacco has a better year over all.

Garlic-burger is still one heck of a QB ( but not quite elite ) he seems hurt, tired and on his down swing.
Flacco is on his up swing.

[baltravensrj55]

Joe Flacco is my man.

[Ravens<3]

I think he already is. They're both really good QBs though.

[BMORElegacy]

There's truth to this.

Which would you rather have had as your QB last year?

Flacco has beaten Pitt 3 out of the last 4 meetings. It appears to me that Joe has solved the Steeler riddle which leaves me being wacco for Flacco.

Edited by BMORElegacy, 04 September 2012 - 07:35 PM.

[awholelottahaloti]

Joe Flacco is my man.

Joe Flacco is THE MAN!