Missed Opportunities

[Ravensfan23]

The Ravens offesne did a hellva job on offense today. 30 Points 190 yards rushing, 250+ passing, and 3TDs. I don't think u can ask for much more out of a young offensive group, but i will. We missed on a lot of opportunities over the last 2 weeks. We are steadly improving and we seem to be getting more guys invovled. However, we need to get a little better in the redzone, we need to do a better job finishing off drives. Once these minor things get corrected this offense will be very hard to stop.

Here are a few missed opportunties i missed today.

Joe to Mark on the first drive. We finished the drive with 3 points, but if Joe makes a better throw, or Mark makes a better attempt for the catch we are up 7-0.

We had 2 drives stall just outside Matt FG range(about 4 or 5 yards). That is atleast 6 points left on the field, now maybe that is just a matter of us not having a guy that we feel comfortable making 50+ yard FGs.

Ray Rice got us down inside the 5 on two different situations, and both times we came away with only 3 points. TD's in those situations close teams out.

There was another time when Joe missed Ray across the middle on what would have generated a huge play if not scored.

That is about 12-20 points we left on the field. Can anyone imagine just how special this team will be when the offense start to take advantage of this opportunities. I think the present and future is looking bright for this team.

P.S. When is the last time we've seen this Ravens Offense come back from 14 points down on the road. Goddamn things are starting to look up for us.

[Lets_Go_Joe]

Lol, cant complain we scored 37, first time for that in a while, but I know what you mean. You're not going to cash in on every drive though, so I was happy with production today. The only thing that bothered me was getting inside the 5 and not being able to get in. I think if Willis was there he could have punched it in. He usually has a nose for the endzone when inside the 5, so maybe that can be fixed. All in all a good game with two great drives to get back tied up in the late 3rd and 4th quarter. Then a great play by T-Sizzle to put the game out of reach. I LOVE how were playing right now, if we can keep this up, the sky is the limit for this team.

[neepo13]

I agree we got away with one but that speaks to how bad Cleveland actually is. Against a better opponant this probably would have been a loss. Glad we won but there is still alot of room for improvement.

[mpplaya07]

man you guys know how touchdown our excitement.... WE did great today yes theirs things we missed but no one has prefect games... just be happy we came back from a 2 td deficit and were able to capitalize the win..... This just shows us what our offense can do when giving the chance...

[Moderator 3]

There's ALWAYS room for improvement but that doesn't mean today wasn't an absolutely GREAT team win.

[Bigbell]

Todays game was amazing, i was really nervous, i had faith.
go ray rice!

he was on my fantasy bench

[PuRock]

I am just glad we won the game on the road. This is a team starting to come around. They just beat the defending superbowl champions. I agree there were things that we did wrong. I have some issues with the play calling at times. And we also need to get healthy in our secondary. But overall we did more things right in this game, than we did wrong.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='neepo13' post='83643' date='Nov 2 2008, 05:12 PM']I agree we got away with one but that speaks to how bad Cleveland actually is. Against a better opponant this probably would have been a loss. Glad we won but there is still alot of room for improvement.[/quote]


The thing about that is. Cleveland may be a bad team in some peoples eyes, but we won. The thing the Ravens have to do is watch the flim and work on correcting things. This offense is still pretty young so i expect them to make some mistakes. And i hope noone gets this Thread wrong, i in no way wanna take away from this performance today. It was great, this young guys show me and the world alot. Coming back from 14 late in a hostile enviroment. Not having any turnovers, and being lead by a Rookie QB and a Rookie RB. It was very very impressive.

[ravensgirlx88]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' post='83634' date='Nov 2 2008, 06:04 PM']The Ravens offesne did a hellva job on offense today. 30 Points 190 yards rushing, 250+ passing, and 3TDs. I don't think u can ask for much more out of a young offensive group, but i will. We missed on a lot of opportunities over the last 2 weeks. We are steadly improving and we seem to be getting more guys invovled. However, we need to get a little better in the redzone, we need to do a better job finishing off drives. Once these minor things get corrected this offense will be very hard to stop.

Here are a few missed opportunties i missed today.

Joe to Mark on the first drive. We finished the drive with 3 points, but if Joe makes a better throw, or Mark makes a better attempt for the catch we are up 7-0.

We had 2 drives stall just outside Matt FG range(about 4 or 5 yards). That is atleast 6 points left on the field, now maybe that is just a matter of us not having a guy that we feel comfortable making 50+ yard FGs.

Ray Rice got us down inside the 5 on two different situations, and both times we came away with only 3 points. TD's in those situations close teams out.

There was another time when Joe missed Ray across the middle on what would have generated a huge play if not scored.

That is about 12-20 points we left on the field. Can anyone imagine just how special this team will be when the offense start to take advantage of this opportunities. I think the present and future is looking bright for this team.

P.S. When is the last time we've seen this Ravens Offense come back from 14 points down on the road. Goddamn things are starting to look up for us.[/quote]


I said this before, we have NEVER been a come from behind team. There were SEVERAL things wrong with this game though.. our special teams needs to STEP UP. Where were they today?

[foreversunny23]

Down by 14, on the road against a division rival... And we won! This is great momentum for our team because our schedule is about to get brutal.

There are some areas of concern. It always stinks when have to settle for 3 instead of punching in 7. Plus our defense gave up so many points. If the special teams hadn't given up that TD, we probably wouldn't have to come from behind.

However, if we can play like we played in the second half with our running and passing offense clicking and our D playing lights out, man we can go places

[PuRock]

[quote name='foreversunny23' post='83660' date='Nov 2 2008, 05:22 PM']Down by 14, on the road against a division rival... And we won! This is great momentum for our team because our schedule is about to get brutal.

There are some areas of concern. It always stinks when have to settle for 3 instead of punching in 7. Plus our defense gave up so many points. If the special teams hadn't given up that TD, we probably wouldn't have to come from behind.

However, if we can play like we played in the second half with our running and passing offense clicking and our D playing lights out, man we can go places [/quote]

Yea when we went down 14 on the road, and lost momentum. I thought the game was over. I'm so use to the years of agony. But the offensive proved me wrong. Dove the entire length of the field, got a TD. The defense did their job, then we score another offensive TD. It made me happy. We came from behind.

[JO_75]

Yeah I agree, there is always room for improvement no matter how much you win by. But I am not going to complain, Flacco got me a good amount of fantasy points today and so did Derrick Mason. I might keep Joe Flacco as my fantasy starter even though I have Tony Romo, Joe is coming around QUICKER than what any of us would have imagined. I think he definitly caught up with the play of Matt Ryan for sure. Now we know what Flacco is doing now, just imagine how much more further along he would be if he was given the starting QB job from the start like Matt Ryan.

[Ravensfan23]

Like i said before this thread in no way was meant to bash the offense. It was more so a could u imagine how good we would have looked if we took advantage of a few situations. This guys are starting to come together really well now. Joe seems to be getting more comfortable within himself and building good chemistry. Joe just seems to always think he will make a play and it's great to see. I think we will start to see a lot more in the passing game as the season progresses.

[noy]

The offense didn't do anything wrong today, the PLAY CALLING is what ruined us in the red zone. Let's see, does this make any sense to anyone? Rice gives us position under the 10 yard line and what do we do...we run (good! 2 yard gain, edge it closer and closer)...then we bring in Ngata so we can PASS TO HIM? Are you freaking kidding me? Worst play call of the game. Why on earth would you switch to the pass when our running game was having such a good drive. Cam Cameron needs to learn not to be as "fancy" in the red zone; we have 3 good rb's, one of them is going to have enough energy to pound the football into the end zone on one of the three drives. Seriously though, I was excited to see Ngata block..only to see him running a route...way to utilize that potential..

[ravensgirlx88]

[quote name='noy' post='83814' date='Nov 2 2008, 09:28 PM']The offense didn't do anything wrong today, the PLAY CALLING is what ruined us in the red zone. Let's see, does this make any sense to anyone? Rice gives us position under the 10 yard line and what do we do...we run (good! 2 yard gain, edge it closer and closer)...then we bring in Ngata so we can PASS TO HIM? Are you freaking kidding me? Worst play call of the game. Why on earth would you switch to the pass when our running game was having such a good drive. Cam Cameron needs to learn not to be as "fancy" in the red zone; we have 3 good rb's, one of them is going to have enough energy to pound the football into the end zone on one of the three drives. Seriously though, I was excited to see Ngata block..only to see him running a route...way to utilize that potential..[/quote]
I AGREE!!!! stick to what we do best in the end zone... RUN IT!!!!

[noy]

and no, to anyone who will say, "If he had caught it you would have been happy." I would not have been, I would have recognized it as an unnecessary risk then and it turns out I was right now. Come away with 3 points from that drive? Biggest let down all game and could have cost us.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='noy' post='83818' date='Nov 2 2008, 08:29 PM']and no, to anyone who will say, "If he had caught it you would have been happy." I would not have been, I would have recognized it as an unnecessary risk then and it turns out I was right now. Come away with 3 points from that drive? Biggest let down all game and could have cost us.[/quote]

I don't disagree with the playcall, i disagree with the decision. I think calling a playaction was the right move because the Browns were loading up to stop the run. I just think roll Joe or Troy out and give them a run pass option. The decision to throw to Ngata may have been a bad one, but if he had caught it i would have no problem. I think u have to live and die with who Cam is. He is an aggressive play caller and i wouldn't chance that at all. It's just like NE using LBs like TEs. It's a risky play but when u show confidence in your guys then usually return the favor with converted plays.

[JUICE tm]

glad to see us sweep the series with cleveland considering the embarrasing performances last year against them. 2 more division games to go this year hopefully we can sweep the bungles and tie it up with the squeelers

[wolfzie06]

I was only annoyed with our offense when we couldn't get that first down in our own territory on a 3rd and 1 and when Rice got us to the 3 yard line. It looked like Rice had gotten the first, but no replay was showed and Harbaugh didn't challenge the play. Then we got stuffed. I know McClain is a bruising, short yardage back, but with the way Rice was running, I didn't understand why he didn't get one run when he got us down into the red zone. Poor guy has done well the past 3 games and has no TD's to show for it.

[PuRock]

[quote name='noy' post='83814' date='Nov 2 2008, 08:28 PM']The offense didn't do anything wrong today, the PLAY CALLING is what ruined us in the red zone. Let's see, does this make any sense to anyone? Rice gives us position under the 10 yard line and what do we do...we run (good! 2 yard gain, edge it closer and closer)...then we bring in Ngata so we can PASS TO HIM? Are you freaking kidding me? Worst play call of the game. Why on earth would you switch to the pass when our running game was having such a good drive. Cam Cameron needs to learn not to be as "fancy" in the red zone; we have 3 good rb's, one of them is going to have enough energy to pound the football into the end zone on one of the three drives. Seriously though, I was excited to see Ngata block..only to see him running a route...way to utilize that potential..[/quote]

I agree. I thought the playcalling when we got into the Browns Zone was poor. My examples:

1) First we started the game with a FG. This was because we decided to settle for the goal by running it on a 3rd and 11. We needed to at least attempt to get a first down, and if its not there check it down.

2) It was 3rd and inches and we run with Rice. Rice was playing great. But when everybody and their momma know we are going to run. The D will be stacking the line. We needed either a run with McClain or a QB sneak would have been more effective.

3) When Rice had the great run. We had a 1st and short at the goaline. We run the ball once. Then we do a playaction , rolling Ngata to the endzone. Tricky, yes. But at 1st and short. We should have run in three times with McClain. Not try and throw a scheme in there. Sure if it works, it's great. But I prefer taking the easy route, rather than pushing the limit.

4) 4th down at the 36 yard line. We punt the ball for a net of 16 yards. They should not have punted it here. They could have either gone for it or at least attempt a long FG. It would have been worth it either way, than gaining 16 yards. Punters have a hard time kicking a ball a planned 20 yards.

[Lets_Go_Joe]

[quote name='PuRock' post='83860' date='Nov 2 2008, 09:19 PM']I agree. I thought the playcalling when we got into the Browns Zone was poor. My examples:
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2) It was 3rd and inches and we run with Rice. Rice was playing great. But when everybody and their momma know we are going to run. The D will be stacking the line. We needed either a run with McClain or a QB sneak would have been more effective.

3) When Rice had the great run. We had a 1st and short at the goaline. We run the ball once. Then we do a playaction , rolling Ngata to the endzone. Tricky, yes. But at 1st and short. We should have run in three times with McClain. Not try and throw a scheme in there. Sure if it works, it's great. But I prefer taking the easy route, rather than pushing the limit.
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Ok, I think this is based on being a Baltimore fan. We want to run run run..... the thing is everyone figured we would run, and thus making it tougher, we tried to get them on their heels and given a better throw or hands it may have worked, he saw something in practice that made him think it could work.

All other teams have a run/pass goalline set, we seem to just want to run, bc were from baltimore and that has worked before. The thing is, if you want Joe & co. to produce like a great offense, you have to take the reigns off and take chances.

Call me crazy, but I like how we go for it rather then settle for whatever we may get with a run. Sean Rogers had been tearing us up whenever Brown wasnt right on him, and in goalline, if he beats your guy, hes in the backfield for a loss, something you cant have in that spot.

I love how cam is playcalling, sure there is a call or two that can be questioned but if rice had got 13 yards on the option read on 3rd and 11 then it would have looked genius bc the d wouldnt be expecting it. I think the play could have been more effective if Joe was in, bc troy hasnt thrown but one time this year, so its more of a running formation, but oh well.

This guy has opened our offense up, we can actually throw the ball!!!! I like what hes doing, hes definitely improving things, Its easy to be a monday morning qb.

[noy]

[quote name='Lets_Go_Joe' post='83878' date='Nov 2 2008, 09:51 PM']Ok, I think this is based on being a Baltimore fan. We want to run run run..... [b]the thing is everyone figured we would run, and thus making it tougher,[/b] we tried to get them on their heels and given a better throw or hands it may have worked, he saw something in practice that made him think it could work.

All other teams have a run/pass goalline set, we seem to just want to run, bc were from baltimore and that has worked before. The thing is, if you want Joe & co. to produce like a great offense, you have to take the reigns off and take chances.

Call me crazy, [b]but I like how we go for it rather then settle for whatever we may get with a run.[/b] [b]Sean Rogers had been tearing us up whenever Brown wasnt right on him[/b], and in goalline, if he beats your guy, hes in the backfield for a loss, something you cant have in that spot.

I love how cam is playcalling, sure there is a call or two that can be questioned but if rice had got 13 yards on the option read on 3rd and 11 then it would have looked genius bc the d wouldnt be expecting it. I think the play could have been more effective if Joe was in, bc troy hasnt thrown but one time this year, so its more of a running formation, but oh well.[/quote]

Goal line is all about the big men, well we put an EXTRA big man into the offense and decide to pass the ball......so tricky..so ineffective. Running TD's are the same as passing TD's, I don't care how it's done, it's points on the board. And as for Rogers...why else is Ngata being put in on offense? (apparently to catch passes) He's going to block whoever gets in his way, three tries at following a big man into the end zone against the BROWNS rush defense, how can any of you settle for what we did in the red zone...

I'm so happy our players were able to capitalize on opportunities, because our red zone offensive schemes aren't looking that great if we're letting the Browns defense stop us.

[Marc2k6]

You know what? We did not miss any opportunity, at the end of the day because we left the Puppy Pound with a win and smack the brown's in the face with the broom as we swept them out of their own stadium, leaving them there chanting for Brady Quin. A WIN is exactly what it is. Who cares how we get it done? They say you have to win 2 of 3 to win the game in Offense, Defense and Special teams, today we won on Offense and Defense!

[march4superbowl]

[quote name='Marc2k6' post='83957' date='Nov 2 2008, 11:48 PM']You know what? We did not miss any opportunity, at the end of the day because we left the Puppy Pound with a win and smack the brown's in the face with the broom as we swept them out of their own stadium, leaving them there chanting for Brady Quin. A WIN is exactly what it is. Who cares how we get it done? They say you have to win 2 of 3 to win the game in Offense, Defense and Special teams, [b]today we won on Offense and Defense![/b] [/quote]
We sure did. I feel really good about this win, even though at times things could have gone better our team came back in the second half 14 points down and won by 10. The Offense and the team as a whole will look at this game as a turning point.

[mpplaya07]

man...... Greatest game so far this season.... I was down at first when they scored 14 on us but then all of a sudden our TEAM stepped up... i agree with what marc said, WE won... theirs always something a team could of done better or missed opportunities but come on people this is the NFL lol.... All i know is this sure can get better with a healthier team.... I mean imagine what our secondary could of done if we had our 4 starters back.. Heres to a 5-3 record and to a Lose to the squeelers.... next week: Houston