Deonte Thompson Thread

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1344719524' post='1117211']
Lol. Victor Cruz is nothing like Tandon Doss. Completely different situations.
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I don't see how they're so different. My point is that just because a guy doesn't show anything his first season doesn't mean he can't be an impact player in his second season. The Panthers' Steve Smith is another guy who basically sat his first season and then showed up in the second season. And my other point is that the preseason means almost nothing - if it did we would have cut Torrey Smith after last year's preseason when just about everybody, myself included, was taking about him being a bust before ever taking a meaningful snap.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1344740316' post='1117368']
Same minor injury. He was back before the game, guess they decided to give him a little extra time.
See [url="http://www.baltimoreravens.com/News/Articles/2012/08/Whos_Playing_Whos_Not_At_Falcons.aspx"]http://www.baltimore...At_Falcons.aspx[/url].
[/quote]If he was back training on monday, has something flared up again that he missed practice yesterday? I suppose we will know today if he isnt out there.

RB is going to be a big headache as well if Pierce doesnt come back soon. Berry and Rainey had very good games. I think Rainey will make the cut, based on the fact he can return punts and returned well.

RR is a lock obviously, and Pierce has to be based on the fact he was drafted in the third this year, Berry could be PS, Allen may be out. Id doubt very much if the kept 4 RBs plus leach, but Berry is a different style of runner to RR Rainey and Pierce

[Ravenslifer]

A/N: slightly off topic, but I still can't believe that up until last year all we kept saying was that there was no depth, there were no young receivers on this roster that we trusted, that all we seemed able to do was to find aging fill-ins, that maybe for some reason Ozzie couldn't draft a receiver, and now all of a sudden we have Torrey and we're talking about battles between LaQuan Williams, Tandon Doss, and Deonte Thompson like we all know they're guaranteed to start, just not where on the depth chart they are. A far cry from the days of Randy Hymes and Clarence Moore.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1344776770' post='1117458']
A/N: slightly off topic, but I still can't believe that up until last year all we kept saying was that there was no depth, there were no young receivers on this roster that we trusted, that all we seemed able to do was to find aging fill-ins, that maybe for some reason Ozzie couldn't draft a receiver, and now all of a sudden we have Torrey and we're talking about battles between LaQuan Williams, Tandon Doss, and Deonte Thompson like we all know they're guaranteed to start, just not where on the depth chart they are. A far cry from the days of Randy Hymes and Clarence Moore.
[/quote]happened with the CBs too. If we could get a similar situation on the WRs it would be great. A weakness to a strength in a year

[codizzle]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1344776863' post='1117459']
happened with the CBs too. If we could get a similar situation on the WRs it would be great. A weakness to a strength in a year
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So the question and wish I guess is who will be or could be the Webb of our receiving core

[1/28/01]

[quote name='codizzle' timestamp='1344777248' post='1117463']

So the question and wish I guess is who will be or could be the Webb of our receiving core
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Torrey is the Webb of the WR corps, but if you're meaning more a hidden gem, I'm thinking Q2 will have a decently productive year for a WR4 this year!

[codizzle]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1344778060' post='1117472']

Torrey is the Webb of the WR corps, but if you're meaning more a hidden gem, I'm thinking Q2 will have a decently productive year for a WR4 this year!
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I was going for hidden gem..

Unknown type guy... Everyone in the league knew who Torrey was when he got drafted.. I'm saying a McPhee/Webb type guy

Yea I'm thinking too right now it could be laquan Williams if he stays healthy. He's got a good blend of talent and has way more game experience than anyone not named Q Torrey or jacoby.

And he's lock to make the team just for his special teams skills

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='codizzle' timestamp='1344779160' post='1117475']
I was going for hidden gem..

Unknown type guy... Everyone in the league knew who Torrey was when he got drafted.. I'm saying a McPhee/Webb type guy

Yea I'm thinking too right now it could be laquan Williams if he stays healthy. He's got a good blend of talent and has way more game experience than anyone not named Q Torrey or jacoby.

And he's lock to make the team just for his special teams skills
[/quote]Thompson has a shot if he has another three games like thrusday night. hes showing promise

[1/28/01]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1344779674' post='1117481']
Thompson has a shot if he has another three games like thrusday night. hes showing promise
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If he manages to rattle off a few more performances like he showed agants Atlanta, he has a shot. I'd like to see him out there with the first team and see how he responds/performs.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1344773657' post='1117439']


I don't see how they're so different. My point is that just because a guy doesn't show anything his first season doesn't mean he can't be an impact player in his second season. The Panthers' Steve Smith is another guy who basically sat his first season and then showed up in the second season. And my other point is that the preseason means almost nothing - if it did we would have cut Torrey Smith after last year's preseason when just about everybody, myself included, was taking about him being a bust before ever taking a meaningful snap.
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Well for one Cruz showed more on his first preseason game than Doss has in his entire career. Then there is the fact that Cruz was IRed his rookie year. Doss just wasnt good enough to make the field. Then last year Cruz was given an opportunity because of injury and he shined. Doss wont have that chance unless he can get healthy and pass a few ppl on the depth chart. It's going to be much harder for him ti break out.

[arnie_uk]

Doss out again....

[The Raven]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1344806597' post='1117731']
Doss out again....
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It doesn't matter how good a player is if he can't get on the field... Doss could be the great but you actually have to be able to play in order to be great

[arnie_uk]

It's so frustrating. I had, still have high hopes for him. But you can't mess about with hamstrings.

[Bazooka Joe]

[quote name='display name' timestamp='1344733024' post='1117300']

Nobody carries 7 wideouts.
This guy should at least make the practice squad.
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Says who? You? Just because we've never carried 7 WRs doesn't mean it's impossible. But let's see how this works out. Doss hasn't practiced. I either see him as a possible IR guy or getting cut at this point barring injury.

I agree with Arnie that Doss is the 7th WR at best right now. Especially if Streeter and Deonte keep impressing.

Finding a WR with Doss skillset is easier than finding one with Streeter and Deonte's skills.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='Bazooka Joe' timestamp='1344816124' post='1117853']
Says who? You? Just because we've never carried 7 WRs doesn't mean it's impossible. But let's see how this works out. Doss hasn't practiced. I either see him as a possible IR guy or getting cut at this point barring injury.

I agree with Arnie that Doss is the 7th WR at best right now. Especially if Streeter and Deonte keep impressing.

Finding a WR with Doss skillset is easier than finding one with Streeter and Deonte's skills.
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I cant think of any team that has ever carried 7 WRs unless its because multiple players are inactive. Most teams only carry 5.

[T3hRaven]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1344828411' post='1117974']
I cant think of any team that has ever carried 7 WRs unless its because multiple players are inactive. Most teams only carry 5.
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I thought the Bengals did at least once. WR is a position they have tended to focus on though.

[scrock]

he's impressive, reports said he was the most polished WR that came in the rookie class the Ravens have this year and Joe noticed him in one of the first OTA practices, so if he's catching peoples eyes and performing in preseason there's a good chance he makes the roster

we need more explosion in the offense, i'd love for Cam to go 4 wide or something

[cobrajet]

[quote name='RavensAllTheWay' timestamp='1344631511' post='1116765']
My prediction right now is that Laquan wins the fourth spot, Streeter fifth, and there's going to be a battle between Doss and Thompson for the 6th and final WR spot on this roster. A lot can change in three more preseason games, but this is how I see it atm.
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My prediction is that Williams wins the #3 spot, Jones the #4, Thompson the #5, Streeter the #6, Doss put on injury protection, and Reed is cut. We will only keep 6 receivers, however like you said, "A lot can change in three more preseason games."

[xxhighriser]

[quote name='display name' timestamp='1344733024' post='1117300']

Nobody carries 7 wideouts.
This guy should at least make the practice squad.
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Yea I'd be upset if we carried 7 because 6 already seems like more than enough for me. We're still run first, use a fullback and 2 tight ends. How many games do we even put 4 wrs on the field?

[xxhighriser]

[quote name='display name' timestamp='1344733024' post='1117300']

Nobody carries 7 wideouts.
This guy should at least make the practice squad.
[/quote]
Yea I'd be upset if we carried 7 because 6 already seems like more than enough for me. We're still run first, use a fullback and 2 tight ends. How many games do we even put 4 wrs on the field?

[PurpleReign92]

Deonte looks good out there if anything he will take pressure off of Bolden and draw the safeties and nickle Package CB's with him...

[1/28/01]

[quote name='PurpleReign92' timestamp='1345291884' post='1123009']
This guy looks good out there if anything he will take pressure off of Bolden and draw the safeties and nickle Package CB's with him...
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Dude....please please please spell the mans name correctly! Oh yeah, pretty sure DT won't be pulling anyone off Boldin. More like Torrey and Jacoby to take that role. Not the 6th WR on the team.

[ravensfolife]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1344828411' post='1117974']
I cant think of any team that has ever carried 7 WRs unless its because multiple players are inactive. Most teams only carry 5.
[/quote] If a couple wr play special teams why not keep 7.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='ravensfolife' timestamp='1345686601' post='1126142']
If a couple wr play special teams why not keep 7.
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Because other positions require depth too. If Tommy Streeter makes the team hes gonna be on the inactive list every week.

[BMOREHAWAII]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1345694938' post='1126162']
[b]Because other positions require depth too[/b]. If Tommy Streeter makes the team hes gonna be on the inactive list every week.
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Obviously not too many franchises carry too much WR's for this reason. If another players goes down in a position, and they option a decent player to FA that wouldn't be wise management.
Also we dont run too much 3+ wideout formats so the possibility of having a lower tier receiver on the field is a lot less likely.
For all the obvious reasons, 7 active WR's would be ludicrous IMO...

[jimmypowder]

[quote name='BMOREHAWAII' timestamp='1345714338' post='1126208']

Obviously not too many franchises carry too much WR's for this reason. If another players goes down in a position, and they option a decent player to FA that wouldn't be wise management.
Also we dont run too much 3+ wideout formats so the possibility of having a lower tier receiver on the field is a lot less likely.
For all the obvious reasons, 7 active WR's would be ludicrous IMO...
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Yeah I agree unless some of those receivers can play special teams .

[Irish Raven]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1344828411' post='1117974']
I cant think of any team that has ever carried 7 WRs unless its because multiple players are inactive.
[/quote]

Cardinals did it three years ago

[D-Rey]

[quote name='BMOREHAWAII' timestamp='1345714338' post='1126208']
Obviously not too many franchises carry too much WR's for this reason. If another players goes down in a position, and they option a decent player to FA that wouldn't be wise management.
[b]Also we dont run too much 3+ wideout formats [/b]so the possibility of having a lower tier receiver on the field is a lot less likely.
For all the obvious reasons, 7 active WR's would be ludicrous IMO...
[/quote]I honestly think that's gonna change this year.

[rmw10]

[quote name='D-Rey' timestamp='1345732688' post='1126296']
I honestly think that's gonna change this year.
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I agree. We've been using a lot of 3 WR sets in the preseason, especially in the no huddle which we should see a lot of. I'm glad. I think having a core of receivers who all excel in different areas has finally allowed Cam to use 3 at a time. I think he wanted to last year, but Evans' injury made it difficult, since we had so many question marks with unproven guys and the lockout. Now that Torrey and LaQuan have grown, with the additions from (hopefully) Doss, Streeter, Jones, and/or Thompson, we finally have a great core that could see plenty of action.

[D-Rey]

[quote name='rmw10' timestamp='1345733028' post='1126303']
I agree. We've been using a lot of 3 WR sets in the preseason, especially in the no huddle which we should see a lot of. I'm glad. I think having a core of receivers who all excel in different areas has finally allowed Cam to use 3 at a time. I think he wanted to last year, but Evans' injury made it difficult, since we had so many question marks with unproven guys and the lockout. Now that Torrey and LaQuan have grown, with the additions from (hopefully) Doss, Streeter, Jones, and/or Thompson, we finally have a great core that could see plenty of action.
[/quote]I agree 100%. A lot of people seem to not realise that last year one of two of our vet WR was injured and the rest were rookies.