Deonte Thompson Thread

[The Raven]

[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1344696152' post='1117047']
Yes I do think you're overreacting. Out of sight, out of mind. What makes Deonte and Streeter suddenly a threat to Doss' spot on the roster? Because they had a few catches against 3rd stringers in a preseason game?

Doss was hurt last year, but no more than Torrey. He was still in position to play. He didn't because he was a rookie learning the system. And half the roster has had some sort of nagging problem this offseason. Doss is fine now. Why don't you watch him play before you make assumptions like his spot is threatened by some [b]on and off rookies?[/b]
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On and off rookies? They've played[b] one[/b] pre season game! Hahaha! Are you kidding me?

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1344697470' post='1117055']
On and off rookies? They've played[b] one[/b] pre season game! Hahaha! Are you kidding me?
[/quote]one more than doss. and until he gets on the field and shows hes better, hes not a lock. Duno how that is a hard concept to grasp.

All in all, i think hes in the 53, but he has to earn it like everyone else

[The Raven]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1344697596' post='1117056']
one more than doss. and until he gets on the field and shows hes better, hes not a lock. Duno how that is a hard concept to grasp.

All in all, i think hes in the 53, but he has to earn it like everyone else
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Right now, Doss is behind. He has to play catch up now.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1344697970' post='1117060']
Right now, Doss is behind. He has to play catch up now.
[/quote]Precisly, and if he doesnt get on the field to catch up, i would not be shocked to see him not in the 53; maybe IRd cut whatever. Id be annoyed and all, but not shocked, he needs to get out there.

[hawkprey]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1344697131' post='1117053']
I have watched him play, i watched, albeit, youtube, and a lot of it after we drafted him, i watched him in all preseason games last year, and as i said, hes a boldin clone, and the plan has to be to replace him with Doss. Hes a talent, thats not arguable.

What im saying is his position is not a lock, he isnt ray lewis for example, if he doesnt get practice in, get some game time in, and Steeter and Thompson light it up, he could be in trouble, but if he gets back and fit, he wont be.

For what its worth, i havent even seen the second half of the first preseason game, so i havent even seen streeter and thompson play, i have no idea what they are like, and i dont form my opinions of what other people have said. This has NOTHING to do with the first preseason game as i tried to explain to you which you clearly ignored. Ill say it again, you obviously dont pay attention to anything i post here.

This is all about Doss and IF he cant get fully fit to play, and then of course, Streeter and Thompson have to have a very very good Preseason to put him under pressure.

NOTHING TO DO WITH 1 GAME... no over reaction here mate.

Doss is not a lock if he cant stay fit, simple as that. He doesnt offer anything on special teams, well he can return as shown in Indiana, but obviously he isnt rated here or he could have had a shot or two some games last here, he doesnt go on coverage teams, and thats also a downside to him.

If he gets fit, and gets games hes in, if he doesnt, he should still be in on talent, but hes not a lock, and i wouldnt be surprised, angry, disappointed yes, but not surprised if he wasnt in the 53 because of injuries.
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You didn't see Streeter or Thompson play, so what makes you sure about them? Why would it even cross your mind that those two could unseat his position on the depth chart? Because no one is talking about Doss. They're not talking about him because he hasn't been on the field until very recently.

You started on him saying he "needs to get game time" and get healthy. Clearly the fact that he wasn't playing is a big issue with you. The fact that you haven't seen him on the field makes him less valuable, and I'm trying to tell you that you need to wait to remind yourself of his abilities. So yes, in a way this is about the first preseason game.

[hawkprey]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1344697470' post='1117055']
On and off rookies? They've played[b] one[/b] pre season game! Hahaha! Are you kidding me?
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I'm talking about how they've done in training camp. Both have had their share of good and bad days.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1344698146' post='1117066']
You didn't see Streeter or Thompson play, so what makes you sure about them? Why would it even cross your mind that those two could unseat his position on the depth chart? Because no one is talking about Doss. They're not talking about him because he hasn't been on the field until very recently.

You started on him saying he "needs to get game time" and get healthy. Clearly the fact that he wasn't playing is a big issue with you. The fact that you haven't seen him on the field makes him less valuable, and I'm trying to tell you that you need to wait to [b]remind yourself of his abilities[/b]. So yes, in a way this is about the first preseason game.
[/quote]Im not sure they would unseat his position on the depth chart, which for the record is what excatly for someone who has been inured the majority of his NFL career?

Again, you ignore half my post based on your last sentence. I praised him, i know what he can do, what he can offer, and what i think he can become in this league, i dont not need reminded of what he can do. Point is he cant do any of it if he is injured.

I said IF IF IF IF IF they have great camps and games, and doss cant get back to match fitness he could be gone.

You clearly have a butt crush on him and cant even take the slightest bit of criticism of him, which has amounted to.... he needs to get fit or he may not be around IF the other guys shine.

Not once did i criticise his play, or praise the other gus play, due to teh fact i havent seen the game yet. Im merely pointing out a scenario that doss is behind, and needs to get fit to cement his spot on our 53. Jezzo, blinded by your love for the kid

[ravensfan160]

I really think Deonte was a victim of bad QB play and an overall declining program at Florida. I remember reading he was a high level recruit coming out of high school. I'm pretty sure we brought his college QB in for minicamp or even the start of training camp and he didn't last long. He didn't even beat out the 4th string QB we have from Temple, Stewart who has looked terrible in limited reps. He looked bad at the open practice and the game.

[Bazooka Joe]

[quote name='Corvus Amplus' timestamp='1344649426' post='1116933']


Deonte might be fast, but Streeter is big and fast.

You can't teach speed, but also you can't teach size either.
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Exactly. This is why I say these guys would have to totally collapse to not be on the 53. Both could force us to carry 7 WRs.

[Bazooka Joe]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1344698141' post='1117065']
Precisly, and if he doesnt get on the field to catch up, i would not be shocked to see him not in the 53; maybe IRd cut whatever. Id be annoyed and all, but not shocked, he needs to get out there.
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I agree. Great hands mean nothing if it's attached to a body that's injury prone. Right now Doss is behind Streeter and Deonte.

[baltravensrj55]

Doss is playing catch up. I haven't even seen him catch a ball in preseason or game. L. Williams, D. Thompson, T. Smith, Boldin, Jacoby, and even touchdown Tommy Streeter made a reception. I'm not saying Doss is bad but he doesn't have a golden pass to make the team like some of you think.

[Bazooka Joe]

[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1344698146' post='1117066']

You didn't see Streeter or Thompson play, so what makes you sure about them? Why would it even cross your mind that those two could unseat his position on the depth chart? Because no one is talking about Doss. They're not talking about him because he hasn't been on the field until very recently.

You started on him saying he "needs to get game time" and get healthy. Clearly the fact that he wasn't playing is a big issue with you. The fact that you haven't seen him on the field makes him less valuable, and I'm trying to tell you that you need to wait to remind yourself of his abilities. So yes, in a way this is about the first preseason game.
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I don't pretend to be some scouting guru, but what I saw of both Streeter and Deonte in the game, if they build on it, they'll be on this team. I still think that all 3 make the team. But this is the year for Doss to start showing something in games. I don't remember Doss showing much last preseason and he's hurt again this preseason.

[Token]

[quote name='Bazooka Joe' timestamp='1344701167' post='1117089']
I don't pretend to be some scouting guru, but what I saw of both Streeter and Deonte in the game, if they build on it, they'll be on this team. I still think that all 3 make the team. But this is the year for Doss to start showing something in games. [b]I don't remember Doss showing much last preseason[/b] and he's hurt again this preseason.
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I have to disagree with that one. I recall Doss making a series of nice catches in the preseason and everyone being excited about what he could do in the regular season. I even remember people saying he should jump Torrey on the depth chart.

[GrimCoconut]

Regarding Tandon Doss:
He has a lot of potential. He was injured last year and has had another injury. He was picked by Flacco from other candidates. He's a draft pick and we rarely give up early on them. He has very good hands. He's not the fastest but he isn't slow. I think if Harewood manages to stick around 2 years without production then Doss will too. With that said he must begin to make a positive impression. LaQuan should be higher on the depth chart than Doss. I like Doss and hope he puts it together. I believe he will. I see him here at least one more year but he better start getting his name called.

Regarding Deonte Thompson:
He looks good but I will wait to give my opinion since it's early. A lot can happen game to game. Right now he is on the fringe of getting a roster spot.

I expect Doss to play next game. I will be watching him very closely.

[Ravenslifer]

As far as Doss not getting any PT in the first game, I'd like to point out Victor Cruz did nothing his first season and caught 6 passes in 4 preseason games last year. And then it took him until week's 3-5 of the 2011 regular season to show what he could do.

[Alexir]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1344697596' post='1117056']
one more than doss. and until he gets on the field and shows hes better, hes not a lock. Duno how that is a hard concept to grasp.

All in all, i think hes in the 53, but he has to earn it like everyone else
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His mouth has done more work than he has on the field. We have underneath guys in Boldin, Pitta and Dickson, you are right though: Doss hasn't done anything, like I mentioned, we have our possession guys. Rather get speed out there with Joes arm than a slow injured loud mouth.

I don't see him making the 53 IMO. I rather give that spot to Rainey or A Omar brown or Emmanuel cook. A guy who is our 5th or 6th WR who doesn't standout on ST won't make it on Harbs' team

[gabefergy]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1344717139' post='1117189']
As far as Doss not getting any PT in the first game, I'd like to point out Victor Cruz did nothing his first season and caught 6 passes in 4 preseason games last year. And then it took him until week's 3-5 of the 2011 regular season to show what he could do.
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Lol. Victor Cruz is nothing like Tandon Doss. Completely different situations.

[PurpleCityLights]

[quote name='T3hRaven' timestamp='1344569746' post='1115882']
If he plays like that during the during the rest of the preseason he will make the team. With Thompson the question was always his hands. If he can catch, you don't find guys who can run in the 4.2's everyday.
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Good, now we can cut David Reed.

[Bazooka Joe]

Doss is not practicing again. If Deonte and Streeter have good showings Friday, then we'll be carrying six WRs.

Even if this Boldin's last year here, which I doubt, we can draft another slot WR.

I see Torrey becoming the 1 this year. Jacoby, Streeter and Deonte sharing 2 thru 4.

Of course this could be setting up for a Doss IR stash.

[Blex64]

Carrying 7 WR's is the question not, 6.

We'll either cut Streeter or Thompson, or keep both of them. They're not going to cut a 4th round pick after a year where he got buried by depth and couldn't get on the field, even if he did get hurt in camp.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='Blex64' timestamp='1344721943' post='1117223']
Carrying 7 WR's is the question not, 6.

We'll either cut Streeter or Thompson, or keep both of them. They're not going to cut a 4th round pick after a year where he got buried by depth and couldn't get on the field, even if he did get hurt in camp.
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Doss wasnt buried by depth last year. I want him to succeed, but if he isnt capable of staying healthy why would the team keep him when there are players out there on the field impressing? Of course Streeter and Thompson are going to have to keep looking good in TC and Preseason, but Doss doesnt have a guaranteed spot on the roster.

[Bazooka Joe]

[quote name='Blex64' timestamp='1344721943' post='1117223']
Carrying 7 WR's is the question not, 6.

We'll either cut Streeter or Thompson, or keeper both of them. They're not going to cut a 4th round pick after a year where he got buried by depth and couldn't get on the field, even if he did get hurt in camp.
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This is what I said. I have us carrying 7 WRs, but not if Doss can't make it to the field.

[arnie_uk]

Thank You!!

Doss isnt a lock, right now he probably isnt even on our depth chart. he needs practice and game time....

[display name]

[quote name='Bazooka Joe' timestamp='1344730184' post='1117273']
This is what I said. I have us carrying 7 WRs, but not if Doss can't make it to the field.
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Nobody carries 7 wideouts.
This guy should at least make the practice squad.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='display name' timestamp='1344733024' post='1117300']
Nobody carries 7 wideouts.
This guy should at least make the practice squad.
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The problem is he most likely wouldnt make the practice squad, because some other team will claim him before he clears waivers. Dallas and NYJ are two teams I can think of off the top of my head in dire need of WR help.

[arnie_uk]

Miami need awful help at wideout. TBH i dont think any of our WRs make PS if they keep playing like they have. They'l be claimed off waivers.

And Hawkprey, if you actually want a wee bit of proof im a doss fan, go to the thread "Merged: Which WRs Will Make the Team?"

Check out the first page... im not over reacting to a game, im reacting to doss to being injured, nothing more, nothing less. You just have a crush on him and cant stomach any wee bit of criticism for him

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1344696152' post='1117047']
Yes I do think you're overreacting. Out of sight, out of mind. What makes Deonte and Streeter suddenly a threat to Doss' spot on the roster? Because they had a few catches against 3rd stringers in a preseason game?

Doss was hurt last year, but no more than Torrey. He was still in position to play. He didn't because he was a rookie learning the system. And half the roster has had some sort of nagging problem this offseason. [b]Doss is fine now[/b]. Why don't you watch him play before you make assumptions like his spot is threatened by some on and off rookies?
[/quote]Going to pipe up again here.

Doss missed practice AGAIN today? thought you said he was fine?

[display name]

Maybe you guys are right. I will say one thing: I'll take him over David Reed anyday.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='display name' timestamp='1344736788' post='1117348']
Maybe you guys are right. I will say one thing: I'll take him over David Reed anyday.
[/quote]Dont get me wrong i want him on the team. i just dont have that big a crush on him that i lose sight of reality; which is he needs to get fit or he MAY not be here much longer

[hawkprey]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1344735089' post='1117327']
Going to pipe up again here.

Doss missed practice AGAIN today? thought you said he was fine?
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Same minor injury. He was back before the game, guess they decided to give him a little extra time.
See [url="http://www.baltimoreravens.com/News/Articles/2012/08/Whos_Playing_Whos_Not_At_Falcons.aspx"]http://www.baltimoreravens.com/News/Articles/2012/08/Whos_Playing_Whos_Not_At_Falcons.aspx[/url].