Who Would You Rather Draft?

[PuRock]

Its back again. Another pre-draft discussion about who would you rather draft. Ask and answer questions about players who are too close to call.

Here are some that I have been struggling with:

Antonio Brown or Eric Decker
Stephen Jackson or DeMarco Murray
Bernard Scott or Jacquizz Rodgers

[RavenAddict420]

Without question Antonio Brown IMO(wallace=one trick pony & the Pitt running game is in trouble; rumors are Decker and manning look good together but I see Thomas being the guy eventually this year)
Stephen Jackson(looks great in camp, too many weapons in Dal)
Jacquizz Rodgers(good sleeper, doesnt have to play against AFC north and NFC east like Scott[if he even gets much playing time])

[gabefergy]

Brown
Murray (way higher upside)
neither

[Sizzlebshu]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1343929216' post='1108775']
Its back again. Another pre-draft discussion about who would you rather draft. Ask and answer questions about players who are too close to call.

Here are some that I have been struggling with:

Antonio Brown or Eric Decker
Stephen Jackson or DeMarco Murray
Bernard Scott or Jacquizz Rodgers
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Decker Murray Scott

Scott will be the main back with ellis playing the mike tolbert role

Murray is a feature back both are injury prone but murray will play from behind less

Decker has manning vs antonio brown who is in an offense that is now split 65% run 35% pass according to reports

[Sizzlebshu]

Heres my dilema tho
Late Round Pick

Darren Mcfadden vs Demarco Murray, Darren Sproles, Jamaal Charles, Trent Richardson etc. ie the remaining field

[Baltimoreswag32]

I had Brown on my fantasy team last year- He was an awesome pickup

Murray or Jackson- I had both of them as well. Rams offense is terrible so the best jackson really did was about 80 yards or so with a TD. like 14 points. While Murray put up biggers numbers

[PuRock]

[quote name='Sizzlebshu' timestamp='1343966775' post='1109197']
Heres my dilema tho
Late Round Pick

Darren Mcfadden vs Demarco Murray, Darren Sproles, Jamaal Charles, Trent Richardson etc. ie the remaining field
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I have McFadden over Murray. McFadden is one of those players that you draft to be your #1 RB and you don't feel great about it. But if he stays healthy, he'll help you crush your league. As much as I love McFadden and value him high, I still cringe when I select him.

Right after those two I like Trent Richardson. The opportunity will be there.

Then its Sproles and Charles (who is gaining in my rankings). Haven't heard anything bad out of camps for Charles, but haven't heard any raving news either. If he shows quick cuts in PS, he'll start rising on draft boards.

[PuRock]

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Murray is a feature back[b] both are injury prone[/b] but murray will play from behind less
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That was my original thought too, until I found out that Steven Jackson has only missed 2 games in the last three years. It just doesn't sound correct, but it is. Jackson has been moving up my rankings. Fisher loves to run the ball and he will have no problem with running S-Jax into the ground.

I want to like Murray more. Out with old, in with the new. But I have this gut feeling that S-Jax has one more great year in him.

[Sizzlebshu]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1344004516' post='1109292']
That was my original thought too, until I found out that Steven Jackson has only missed 2 games in the last three years. It just doesn't sound correct, but it is. Jackson has been moving up my rankings. Fisher loves to run the ball and he will have no problem with running S-Jax into the ground.

I want to like Murray more. Out with old, in with the new. But I have this gut feeling that S-Jax has one more great year in him.
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The problem with running the ball is that you have to do it from a position of strength. The Rams dont have the defense the o line or the scoring capability needed to get that done. Murray while he could get injured still has a very capable handcuff in felix jones

[Ed_Reed20]

Julio Jones or A.J. Green

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Julio Jones or A.J. Green
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Wow thats a tough one. I like A.J. Green more but I trust Matt Ryan more than Andy Dalton. They both had injury issues last season. Still gotta go with A.J. Green just because Jones has Roddy White to compete with in terms if targets/receptions.

[PuRock]

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Julio Jones or A.J. Green
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AJ Green for the win. Julio has been rocketing up my boards though. Nothing but praise has been coming out. But I think AJ Green will have the more consistent stat lines. Julio's going to have monster games but there will be games where he might stall.

Like I said in the other thread. AJ Green is on the short list of guys that could end up as the #1 fantasy WR. He's a great redzone threat. In Atlanta Julio will be compteting with two other great redzone threats in Roddy White and Gonzalez.

[PuRock]

Jason Witten or Vernon Davis.

[Gordo52]

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Jason Witten or Vernon Davis.
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I'll go with Witten. He's still Romos security blanket. I have no idea what the 49ers are doing on offense, they got like 5 good RB's, abunch of recievers.....even though Davis is a beast. I just don't like the offense he's in. Plus Romo > Smith.

[Gordo52]

This is keeper wise...

Turner or Gore?

I'm about 99% sure that I'm keeping Turner over Gore, unless someone can convince me that Gore is better...

The way I see it, Turner will still get a lot of TD's, Jones and White help his value, and he won't be overworked. I told myself last year there was no way I would keep him because he is now 30. So I traded a 1st for Gore when he was going off, and then he slowed down and sucked it up. Now the 49ers have a crowded backfield and more recievers.

I'm just gonna swallow my pride and keep Turner. Stupidest trade of my life.

[Sizzlebshu]

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Julio Jones or A.J. Green
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not even close to tough. Its obviously Julio Jones. Julio has an easier schedule will be featured, is bigger and faster than his counterpart etc...

[Sizzlebshu]

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Jason Witten or Vernon Davis.
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Davis because he was a stud if you check the stat lines over his last couple of games which were against tough teams

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Sizzlebshu' timestamp='1344044575' post='1109715']
not even close to tough. Its obviously Julio Jones. Julio has an easier schedule will be featured, is bigger and faster than his counterpart etc...
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Considering both ESPN and Yahoo have Green ranked above Jones and both have a ton of upside, I'd say it's a tough choice.

[Gordo52]

Jones and Green are toss ups for me. They'll both likely finish top 10-15 if they can both stay healthy.

I would give the edge to Jones considering all the double teams and attention defenses will have to put on White, Gonzalez and Turner.

Plus Jones doesn't have to face Webb and Smith twice a year.

[codizzle]

Jones and green is a tougher choice than u think. Personally, I'd take green. Bth are good picks but I see more upside potential in green.

He just looks like a monster ha

[Sizzlebshu]

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Jones and green is a tougher choice than u think. Personally, I'd take green. Bth are good picks but I see more upside potential in green.

He just looks like a monster ha
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If you remember two years ago when Moss was bouncing around to different teams there was a pattern. The number 2 receiver there always flourished while moss would be double covered and held out with a goose egg or low numbers. Percy Harvin, Wes Wellker, Kenny Britt. That is why i give Julio the edge. Julio is not only a supreme athletic talent, but is also cant be double covered or even covered by the oppoenents best player because of roddy white

[Clutch Ravens]

[quote name='Sizzlebshu' timestamp='1344192536' post='1110519']
If you remember two years ago when Moss was bouncing around to different teams there was a pattern. The number 2 receiver there always flourished while moss would be double covered and held out with a goose egg or low numbers. Percy Harvin, Wes Wellker, Kenny Britt. That is why i give Julio the edge. Julio is not only a supreme athletic talent, but is also cant be double covered or even covered by the oppoenents best player because of roddy white
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While I get exactly what you're saying, a couple of big performances from Julio could land him opposing team's top corners and bracket coverage. While Roddy White racks up receptions he just isn't the sort of game-breaking talent that Julio's shaping up to be.

Green's a guy that's already proven that he can take on team's top corners and double coverage.

I think, overall, I'd lean towards Julio. He has the better Quarterback, a minimum of 9 dome games and a much easier schedule.

[codizzle]

Side note- this is both green's and dalton's first offseason..
I wouldn't say Ryan is that much better than dalton at all

[PuRock]

[quote name='Sizzlebshu' timestamp='1344192536' post='1110519']
If you remember two years ago when Moss was bouncing around to different teams there was a pattern. The number 2 receiver there always flourished while moss would be double covered and held out with a goose egg or low numbers. Percy Harvin, Wes Wellker, Kenny Britt. That is why i give Julio the edge. Julio is not only a supreme athletic talent, but is also cant be double covered or even covered by the oppoenents best player because of roddy white
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First let me say that I think either one of these guys can end up on top.

But you remember when Randy Moss was the man? That's AJ Green. AJ Green is 1st in progressions in the red zone, 1st in overall progressions.

Julio might be 3rd in redzone progressions where both White and Gonzalez have proven their worth in their careers. Sure Julio is going to get less attention but he's going to share targets as well. And if he starts doing well, he'll draw more attention which will open things up for Roddy. Roddy White still lead the league in Targets last year, that just isn't going to go away.

I think Julio will have a monster year, but I think AJ Green will have more consistent stat lines. Julio will have more monster games.

[Gordo52]

Both of them have just about the same amount of value in my eyes. Jones was affected by injuries last year, but if he stays fully healthy I think he would be a better option then Green.

[PuRock]

New one. Former teammates both with rookie QBs.

Reggie Wayne or Pierre Garcon
And why?

[Ed_Reed20]

Wayne.

Even with his declining physical skills, I think he'll see more targets in a better offense. The Redskins have amassed an impressive groups of weapons around RGIII, but I just have a hunch Indy's passing game will be more fluid and Wayne will benefit.

[Clutch Ravens]

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New one. Former teammates both with rookie QBs.

Reggie Wayne or Pierre Garcon
And why?
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I'd lean to Wayne.

Griffin's going to rack up more rushing attempts than Luck (I'd assume, anyway) and Garcon has more competition for targets/touches - Moss, Cooley, Morgan and Davis will command receptions and the combo of Hightower/Helu/Royster is going to eat up a lot of offense.

Since there's a lack of Runningbacks going around this year which 'Bama back do you go to in a TD only league: Ingram or Richardson?

[Sizzlebshu]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1344197121' post='1110576']
First let me say that I think either one of these guys can end up on top.

But you remember when Randy Moss was the man? That's AJ Green. AJ Green is 1st in progressions in the red zone, 1st in overall progressions.

Julio might be 3rd in redzone progressions where both White and Gonzalez have proven their worth in their careers. Sure Julio is going to get less attention but he's going to share targets as well. And if he starts doing well, he'll draw more attention which will open things up for Roddy. Roddy White still lead the league in Targets last year, that just isn't going to go away.

I think Julio will have a monster year, but I think AJ Green will have more consistent stat lines. Julio will have more monster games.
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Well that tidbit about Julio not being the red zone guy I think will need some revising because all the reports out of camps have been that they will feature Julio. Even White believes he is going to lose receptions/targets to Julio. Not knocking Green, but more his team. The Bengals dont have any other weapons than him and they play in an afc north that is very capable of honing in on this. Yes he did it before, but now there no surprise factor and they a year of tape to study. Meanwhile in the nfc south, defense doesnt exist and the falcons love to run up the score

I consider both of these two receivers elite

[PuRock]

[quote name='Sizzlebshu' timestamp='1344204760' post='1110679']
Well that tidbit about Julio not being the red zone guy I think will need some revising because all the reports out of camps have been that they will feature Julio. Even White believes he is going to lose receptions/targets to Julio. Not knocking Green, but more his team. The Bengals dont have any other weapons than him and they play in an afc north that is very capable of honing in on this. Yes he did it before, but now there no surprise factor and they a year of tape to study. Meanwhile in the nfc south, defense doesnt exist and the falcons love to run up the score

I consider both of these two receivers elite
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Well I guess the only thing left to do now is to wait until the end of the season. Watch both of these guys score the exact amount of points (in some variation).

This is definitely a better battle of the 1st rd WRs than Blackmon/Floyd. In the current year and future years.