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Geno Smith Sweepstakes

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So last year it was the Andrew Luck Sweepstakes or the favorite nick name, "Suck For Luck". So since we can't use Suck for Barkley because it doesn't rhyme, I'm going to use a phrase that I saw on Walter Football.com to describe the Draft.

The 2013 Draft will be known as the "Fall Flat for Matt" Sweepstakes. Quite simply like the Andrew Luck thread last year, who will be the team to draft Barkley with the 1st Overall Pick in the 2013 Draft.

I'm not quite sure yet but I have it down to five teams for next year.

- Jets: Honestly, with their QB situation I wouldn't doubt that the Jets are in position to draft a new QB, be it Barkley or anyone else.

- Raiders: They have a new GM, new HC and who knows if Carson Palmer still has it. I think if Palmer has a bad year, that it very well could mean the Raiders once again picking 1st Overall in a Draft.

- Jaguars: Right now I think between Jacksonville and Oakland, those two have been the most common teams I have seen mocked to be the 1st Overall Pick in 2013 and Blaine Gabbert is proving to be a horrible selection, MJD is holding out, Blackmon isn't signed, everything is a disaster in Jacksonville and could result in Matt Barkley coming to Jacksonville.

- Cardinals: Another bad QB situation. Kolb was injured most of last year, Skelton is ok but not a Franchise QB. If Kolb can't hold his own, I expect the Cardinals to be in the running for Matt Barkley.

- Seahawks: I think this is obvious. Matt Flynn was signed but he hasn't been given the starting job and if he loses to T-Jack, the Seahawks are in trouble. I think there is a good chance the Seahawks could have a USC Reunion between Pete Carroll and Matt Barkley.

[b]EDIT: With a shoulder injury to Matt Barkley and the fact Geno Smith is the only other QB worth taking at the top of the first round, this thread is now the Geno Smith Sweepstakes.[/b]
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My guess it that it will be Raiders. Then it would probably the Browns or Dolphins even though they just drafted Tannehill and Weeden.

I don't think the Seahawks will even target a QB next season. They traded for Flynn and drafted Wilson in the 3rd. Both are already impressing coaches in training camp. They'll probably target some offensive line help, especially with the deep class in the next years draft.
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[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1343849910' post='1108142']
And for the record "fall flat for matt" was far from your idea, you got it from walterfootball.com
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I never said it was my idea, I just said that is what I'm going to be calling it.

Though, I will give you credit, even without Peyton I didn't think the Colts would be the worst team so maybe you can be right about the Jaguars and be 2 for 2.
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[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1343852443' post='1108175']
I never said it was my idea, I just said that is what I'm going to be calling it.

Though, I will give you credit, even without Peyton I didn't think the Colts would be the worst team so maybe you can be right about the Jaguars and be 2 for 2.
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i see you changed your initial post, i was going to quote you.. you said you came up with a name, then on the next line said fall flat for matt, and i caught you out :) haha
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[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1343852443' post='1108175']
I never said it was my idea, I just said that is what I'm going to be calling it.

Though, I will give you credit, even without Peyton I didn't think the Colts would be the worst team so maybe you can be right about the Jaguars and be 2 for 2.
[/quote]if that gabbert is playing a full year, and mjd holds out like CJ does, that offense will be horrible because itl take mjd a few games to get up and running. Im not sure the d can play at that same level as well.
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[quote name='Purple Nurple' timestamp='1343853067' post='1108184']
Ninja edit! No edit evidence!
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I'm very very sneaky sir!
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[quote name='Purple Nurple' timestamp='1343853067' post='1108184']
Ninja edit! No edit evidence!
[/quote]thats the first time ive really truly seen it, was done very quick!
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[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1343856502' post='1108220']
"Play like malarkey for Barkley"
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Very Creative sir!
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I'm going to go with the Jaguars.

Gabbert sucks.

MJD is holding out.

Blackmon is acting like a tool.

I think the Browns are capable of running them close, but without MJD they don't have an offense and, even if he does end his hold-out soon he led the league in touches last year, which tends to mean a decline in production.
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Barkley isnt the best QB in next year's draft. Teams are going to have make a tough decision because i forsee Jags, Browns, Rams having the worst records and they all have used first round picks recently at that position.
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[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1343859904' post='1108245']
who do you think, is tyler bray? Logan thomas? Tyler Wilson? No way you think its Landry Jones
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Tyler Wilson. Very poised in the pocket. Smart. Tough. Mobile. Ideal size. Good accuracy. He has everything you look for in a QB. His numbers probably wont be as good as Barkley because he plays in SEC and doesnt have Woods and Lee to throw to.
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[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1343859614' post='1108241']
Barkley isnt the best QB in next year's draft. Teams are going to have make a tough decision because i forsee Jags, Browns, Rams having the worst records and they all have used first round picks recently at that position.
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Ok, now it seems we are stating the obvious teams. Does anyone here see a SURPRISE team taking Barkley? I mean nobody expected Luck to end up in Indy, is there any surprise team who may end up taking him? I say it's between the Jets or Cowboys.
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[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1343860756' post='1108251']


Ok, now it seems we are stating the obvious teams. Does anyone here see a SURPRISE team taking Barkley? I mean nobody expected Luck to end up in Indy, is there any surprise team who may end up taking him? I say it's between the Jets or Cowboys.
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Neither of those teams will be drafting top 5. Maybe Denver if Peyton gets hurt...they went all in with him. Maybe Arizona but I think they will be decent again. Wilson and Barkley will most likely both be top 5 picks.
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[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1343860756' post='1108251']
Ok, now it seems we are stating the obvious teams. Does anyone here see a SURPRISE team taking Barkley? I mean nobody expected Luck to end up in Indy, is there any surprise team who may end up taking him? I say it's between the Jets or Cowboys.
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Well I think everyone knew Luck was going to Indy as soon as Peyton Manning's return was doubtful.

Are we talking about who has the worst record in the league by week 17 or who might trade up to get him? Because there practically no teams IMO that will trade up to get a QB as of now. Everyone has either their franchise guy or a young player they intend to groom.

The Dolphins, Jags, Colts, Redskins, Vikings, Bucs, Cardinals, and Rams are all bottom-ranked teams from last year that will be in the discussion for worst team of 2012. With that large of a group, it's hard to see any other team make a fall so low that they surpass those 8 teams in suckiness.
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[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1343862721' post='1108272']
It's something about these USC QB's I can't trust.[/quote]

I'll admit this reason here made me hesitant to start this thread. Aren't some of the other QBs RS Sophomores or Juniors who could go back for another year of college football? Part of me believes that history of past USC QBs says that Barkley may not be penciled in as the number one pick and that teams may be hesitant to take him due to other USC QBs not working out. I feel like USC and Notre Dame are schools now the NFL may think twice on drafting QBs from those schools due to previous quarterbacks proving to be a bust.
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So has pre-season changed anyone's mind on their pick to draft Matt Barkley?

I'm making my final prediction for the Matt Barkley Sweepstakes.

With the 1st Pick in the 2013 Draft, the Oakland Raiders select Matt Barkley QB USC.
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I'm going with the Cleveland Browns. Richardson may have health issues all year, and their schedule is brutal. IMO, they only have 4 potential "winnable" games - home vs. Buffalo, home vs. Washington, at Oakland and at Indy.

Of course, if they drafted Barkley, they'd have a 29 year old QB in his 2nd year, a (younger) former starter (Colt McCoy) who's only 25, and a rookie QB. For "normal" teams, it should be a "can't miss" opportunity.

Unless we're talking about the Browns. ;)
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Same question but for Week 1, has week one changed anyone's mind? Oakland lost so I'm still in the running to get that right but Buffalo is a serious contender for Barkley. I also think it's likely a USC Reunion between Petey and Barkley could happen in Seattle.
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Ok lets stop talking about Matt Barkley going #1. Hes overrated...ive said it all along if he didnt have two of the best WR in the country he wouldnt be a top 25 pick. Yet another USC QB bust in the NFL.
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i'm a huge usc fan but he's definitely over rated. this game is not all his fault though. the usc line tonight against stanford was probably one of the worst performances i have ever seen. Future draft picks Skov, Thomas, and Gardner made them look silly all night (one of them even did their polamalu impression jumping over the line several times). i'm loving skov/thomas on the ravens next year maybe? the draft stock for those 2 probably skyrocketed this game.

by the way, this whole QB class sucks as a whole. i am more appreciative of joe flacco now that i see the talent of the qb's these days. i can't see a qb from the 2013 draft class to have success in the nfl. none of them stand out. barkley has WR's, geno has wr's and a spread offense, jones is just ok, wilson needs more time to be evaluated, bray looks like a bust... it just doesn't look very bright for this qb class. in the end, i say Aaron Murray has the best chance to be great. thank god we aern't in need of a QB.
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[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1347764233' post='1151421']
Ok lets stop talking about Matt Barkley going #1. Hes overrated...ive said it all along if he didnt have two of the best WR in the country he wouldnt be a top 25 pick. Yet another USC QB bust in the NFL.
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Really? Who you think could be the top QB next year? I personally think that a QB may not go # 1 Overall when it's all set and done. I think Star Lotulelei could very well fight to be the # 1 pick like Suh did in 2010. Unless of course another team decides to go for a QB like the Rams passed on Suh for and some team passes up on Lotulelei.
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[quote name='RavensWin09' timestamp='1347766505' post='1151442']
i'm a huge usc fan but he's definitely over rated. this game is not all his fault though. the usc line tonight against stanford was probably one of the worst performances i have ever seen. Future draft picks Skov, Thomas, and Gardner made them look silly all night (one of them even did their polamalu impression jumping over the line several times). i'm loving skov/thomas on the ravens next year maybe? the draft stock for those 2 probably skyrocketed this game.

by the way, this whole QB class sucks as a whole. i am more appreciative of joe flacco now that i see the talent of the qb's these days. i can't see a qb from the 2013 draft class to have success in the nfl. none of them stand out. barkley has WR's, geno has wr's and a spread offense, jones is just ok, wilson needs more time to be evaluated, bray looks like a bust... it just doesn't look very bright for this qb class. in the end, i say Aaron Murray has the best chance to be great. thank god we aern't in need of a QB.
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I don't like Barkley much myself and personally think Landry Jones and Aaron Murray will be the best quarterbacks from the 2013 Class, unless of course Geno Smith comes out for the draft and then those three will be the best ones.
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