Jim Leonhard As A Raven...Again?

[Purple_Polo89]

I saw on twitter today that the Jets are not going to resign him and I wanted to know would this be a good move for us. He had a very good season as a Raven in 08' but I personally was sad to see him go with rex to the jets. Even though he wont start he'll had depth to our defense. He also know's most of the guys on the D and won't have a hard time re-learning our playbook. My only concern is that he'll be coming back from an injury [color=#222221][font=arial, verdana, helvetica][left](torn patellar tendon in his right knee) that was in December, but if he say's he's healthy lets see whats up. What do my fellow Raven fans think?[/left][/font][/color]

[JEEPercreepermd]

Jim is a good, solid player and would be excellent depth behind Pollard. I just don't know how that financially would fit into the grand scheme of things at this point.

[BloodRaven]

Hell no. Kick rocks Jimmy.

[Purple_Polo89]

[quote name='JEEPercreepermd' timestamp='1342711570' post='1100643']
Jim is a good, solid player and would be excellent depth behind Pollard. I just don't know how that financially would fit into the grand scheme of things at this point.
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Dont think we could get him for a 1-yr deal? Just to see if he can still be dominant

[RavensDE]

[b]For a Raven's price...[/b]

[b]I liked Leonard when he was here. We signed him for a song, he played hard and smart, he returned punts, and was an all around playmaker.[/b]

[b]If he is cheap enough he'd be just the kind of late season pick-up Ozzie is known for but... The Colts and Pagano are likely to pay a bit more and so I think he'll go there if not somewhere else with money. Its still within the realm of possibility though and a development I'd like to see. [/b]

[b]The 4 top safeties now are Reed,Pollard,Thompson, and Considine among other less likely names (Cook being the best darkhorse to earn a spot). I think he'd be an upgrade over Considine but we aren't likely to sign Leonard and let Considine go unless the latter has played poorly in camp or they were under a Maake Kemo-like agreement which is essentially to take a flier out on a guy and let him try to make the team. Ozzie says we'll do whatever we can to make our team better but we tend to honor our contract intentions if not our contracts. (see Redding, Carr, etc)[/b]

[berad]

No, we've moved on.

Remember he was of the few to jump ship for Rex Ryan without a thought...

[Bazooka Joe]

Wouldn't hurt to see what he has left. 1 year deal with no promises

[Moderator 3]

Considering Jim is one of Rex's favorite players, I suspect the Jests aren't re-signing him because he's damaged goods. No thanks.

[RavensDE]

A PCL damages him permantly? Not likely. If he is damaged goods I wonder if it is related to soemthing else. (Lack of focus, anti-Sanchez, etc)

[PuRock]

[quote name='Moderator 3' timestamp='1342714467' post='1100674']
Considering Jim is one of Rex's favorite players, I suspect the Jests aren't re-signing him because he's damaged goods. No thanks.
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This is what I was originally thinking. But don't forget that the Jets have also had an influx of talent at the Safety position including LaRon Landry and Yeremiah Bell. They still have Eric Smith. Jim is the odd man out since he doesn't have a contract and is coming back from injury.

I'm not for this move, but I'm not totally against this move either.

[JO_75]

I don't see why not if it's just a 1 year deal where he provides depth behind Pollard and contributes on special teams. As someone said, he returned punts for us when he was here, don't see why he can't do that every once in a while.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1342715949' post='1100683']
I don't see why not if it's just a 1 year deal where he provides depth behind Pollard and contributes on special teams. As someone said, he returned punts for us when he was here, don't see why he can't do that every once in a while.
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Thompson, Considine and Cook are all the depth the team needs at safety. And there are better, more explosive options to return punts.

[Tiz]

Meh.

[PeRK82]

[quote name='Purple_Polo89' timestamp='1342710848' post='1100634']
I saw on twitter today that the Jets are not going to resign him and I wanted to know would this be a good move for us. He had a very good season as a Raven in 08' but I personally was sad to see him go with rex to the jets. Even though he wont start he'll had depth to our defense. He also know's most of the guys on the D and won't have a hard time re-learning our playbook. My only concern is that he'll be coming back from an injury
[left](torn patellar tendon in his right knee) that was in December, but if he say's he's healthy lets see whats up. What do my fellow Raven fans think?[/left]

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Man, the JETS are a dirty team, they will kick their players to the curb in a instant. All well , maybe good players will have a second thought when they have to choose between the JETS and RAVENS. I think they would pick the RAVENS , even if it was for just a tad less money. LOYALTY Goes a long way in my book.

I think its pretty messed up that he got hurt and JETS dropped him, he had a great yr the season before, not sure how he played this yr, but it couldn't have been any worse then Dirty Sanchez.

[PeRK82]

[quote name='RavensDE' timestamp='1342714791' post='1100676']
A PCL damages him permantly? Not likely. If he is damaged goods I wonder if it is related to soemthing else. (Lack of focus, anti-Sanchez, etc)
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LOLOLOL, The whole team is Anti - Dirty Sanchez, thats why they got TEBOW, loloolol. Which was just as Dumb. I love how everyone was talking about the JETS and then boom, nothing. Yet RAVENS keep doing their thing and get no Love. All well , as long as we keep winning.

[nk02442]

I was/am a HUGE JL fan. I thought the ravens were insane for not keeping him around. He was one of the smartest/hardest playing players on the team and a large part of the defense that year. With that said, he is not worth the effort. The last 2 years he has gone down on IR and we do not need to waste money/roster spots on someone who will go on IR. Maybe a 1 year contract at vet min with incentives. I think developing players for the post Reed ravens is more important, and cheaper.

[The Raven]

If the front office doesn't feel comfortable with the current back ups that we have at the safety positions, then I would say that we should bring Leonard in for a try out to see where he is as a player right now. I don't want him for anything other than depth and insurance. But how safe is it to rely on an injury prone player to provide insurance?

[Gordo52]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1342715037' post='1100678']
I'm not for this move, but I'm not totally against this move either.
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[Crabcakes&Football]

Nah no thanks. If fat Rex has leftovers you know they can't be very good.

[Raven07]

im iffy on this..... we brought him in before, and left with Rex, now rex doesnt want him anymore, and we already have emerging stars that are geling quite well so far... throwing in an Ex-teammate with the current players , im not saying it would cause a distraction because i dont think it woud BUT there definitely would be some catching up to do on Leonards part, and i think that could "slow" progression from the secondary overall. Not saying he would not contribute BUT its the Catch up factor and then theres the issue of "what would we do with him, we already have players we like and whom are progressing and younger... where do we fit leonard in? and not take away from the other guys"......... granted Ozzie's approach of "right player, right price" has done us well over the years.... we'll see what they'll do..


oh and then there's the issue of Depth.... we all know for a fact... you can never have enough depth at a positon.... we know that all too well... we'll see what happens

[bauer77]

I wouldnt be against it if he came for cheap and only for a year or two.

[Malkavian Raven]

[i][font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif]I'd say JL was a "good" player, but I can honestly say there was never a time he made a memorable impression on me. Hell, Josh Wilson made a better memorable impression on me just because of what happened at the end of the Texans game a couple of years ago. So, no -- live & learn, Jim. If you hadn't jumped ship, I'd be all for giving you a new contract or a franchise tag -- but we've got Flacco & Reed to worry about.[/font][/i]

[i][font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif]~ Malkavian Raven[/font][/i]

[PurpleReign92]

Rex Ryan didn't know what he was getting himself into as the "New Head Coach,' of the New York Jets.
In order for him to feel comfortable with the transition and to keep some of the old Raven Defensive ways with him he didn't took free Agents from our nest. That is why Bart Scott, Jim Leonard, Tryvor Pryce went to join him. The one thing they all had in common was that they were all a product of our system and the old "Art Modell Grind it out way Raven way."

[cobrajet]

I really liked that guy and was heartbroken when he left for the Jets, but we really don't need any safety depth. We are going to have to make a lot of heartbreaking cuts as it is to get to our roster limits and we have loaded back up on potential special teams aces.

[rmw10]

To be clear, I'm not for or against signing Leonhard.

But here's my qualm. For those of you who say that he bolted for the Jets and didn't give the Ravens a chance, you're mistaken. Once free agency came around, the Ravens told him to take his best offers since they weren't willing to commit to him. If you're Jim Leonhard, who had made the minimum throughout his career, do you take the 1-year, low dollar offer from the Ravens, or the multi-year, millions of dollars offer from the Jets?

[Moderator 2]

Leonhard wanted to start and that was never going to happen here. He deserved to get paid

[gabefergy]

eh, I dont see where he would fit in. I always liked Leonhard. He is a smart, tough, and hard-working guy but coming off an injury I just dont see the point. We dont have great depth at safety, but I like what I have seen out of Cook and Chris Thompson is a guy I am pretty high on.

[ellicottraven]

Not right now I don't think. He may be an insurance pick up if Sean Consadine and our other rookies don't look good during training camp or get injured. If they are alright, I think we are better off passing on him...

[display name]

I really liked Jim Leonhard. We lost Zibi and Haruki, I think Leonhard could be a great replacement. Think about it, doesn't it sound like a classic Ozzie pickup? But on the other hand, we have a couple young players at the position and, if Leonhard wants to start, it won't happen here unless someone gets hurt.
Whatever happens, in Ozzie we trust!!!

[MsMarvel73]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1342713016' post='1100655']
No, we've moved on.

Remember he was of the few to jump ship for Rex Ryan without a thought...
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^^What he said.