Darrelle Revis And Lardarius Webb

[berad]

[quote name='PurpleCityLights' timestamp='1342897842' post='1101586']
Be carefull what you wish for,most of y'll didnt want to pay rice so do you know how much it would cost to keep him if he becomes a #1C....
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Already signed him to a reasonable contract

[nk02442]

[quote name='rlh445' timestamp='1342864907' post='1101485']
Ahhh, I agree and I guess I don't. I mean, the fact that he's a blatant man-handler and yet 'gets away with it' is what MAKES him an elite corner. It's kinda like Michael Irvin..great athlete, nose for just the right seam and all that..but when it comes down to it all that guy did was push off like a mother. So what, he caught a lot of balls and scored a lot of touchdowns, that's what made him great. Revis can go step for step with almost every receiver out there, maneuver his body in the right position and play handsies with a guy and never get caught. His whole game is based around that..but once again, that's why he's so heralded. So yes, I agree with your sentiment that he's a dirty [profanity deleted], but I also have to say that's what makes him great....and why I hate him.
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The whole point is any other corner does what revis does, and its PI/penalty. If other corners were "allowed" to be as physical as Revis is, they would be just as good. Hes still one of the top corners in the league, but the best..........No.

[Tiz]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1342901964' post='1101595']


Already signed him to a reasonable contract
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Plus I'm fine with paying him a top contract if he earns it. As opposed to hoping he doesn't become one just to avoid paying lol

[arnie_uk]

was just readin the posts on nfl.com article about webb saying we have the best secondary. Some were good, and well thought out, mainly about seattle, but others are god awful. Are some people in this world really that stupid? or blindly biased they cant admit to any other team being better than their own in any aspect?

The lions even got a mention, along the 32nd ranked pass defense last year, Green bay.

[rlh445]

[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1342902765' post='1101601']
The whole point is any other corner does what revis does, and its PI/penalty. If other corners were "allowed" to be as physical as Revis is, they would be just as good. Hes still one of the top corners in the league, but the best..........No.
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No, no nk0, the point I was trying to make in my post is that *no other corner DOES what Revis does*. If it was as simple as playing handsies with a receiver and that's it, EVERY corner would be doing it. Naw man, there's an art to it. I mean if you watch Webby, he doesn't have the skills Revis has, he has different ones. He's got speed Revis doesn't, so he'll shadow his guy and use his detective skills to THINK about when the QB is gonna throw and where he's gonna throw it, like Ed (Reed, duh) does it. That's why he looked so good last year; he overcame his average (let's face it, the kid has an average body type, at least for a corner) body and used his brains and with those became one of the best corners of last year. Revis does what other corners can't; not only does he have the perfect body for it, but he plans to do it. He positions his body in perfect places, during actual plays no less. The guy is a freakin' genius at it. It's NOT something every corner can do, and it's NOT something that can just be learned lickety split. Revis is a natural, and that's just that. ALL corners try to be as physical as Revis is; the fact is that Revis is just better at it. That's why he's an elite corner right now. I'm not sure how that escapes you, but that's how it is.

[Malkavian Raven]

[i][font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif]If there's a Ladarius Webb bandwagon, I'm on! The thing I like most about Webb is that he is playing better than a lot of the veterans out there, where knowledge should be taking place of speed (ie, Lewis, Reed, etc.)... and from what I can tell, Webb hasn't even scratched the surface. This guy, all I can say is, I am glad we got him locked-up to a long-term deal.[/font][/i]

[i][font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif]~ Malkavian Raven[/font][/i]

[TheRavenouseD2008]

question what would it be like for aposing qbs if every corner had a mix of reed pollard and webbs skills?

[nk02442]

[quote name='rlh445' timestamp='1343112608' post='1102314']
No, no nk0, the point I was trying to make in my post is that *no other corner DOES what Revis does*. If it was as simple as playing handsies with a receiver and that's it, EVERY corner would be doing it. Naw man, there's an art to it. I mean if you watch Webby, he doesn't have the skills Revis has, he has different ones. He's got speed Revis doesn't, so he'll shadow his guy and use his detective skills to THINK about when the QB is gonna throw and where he's gonna throw it, like Ed (Reed, duh) does it. That's why he looked so good last year; he overcame his average (let's face it, the kid has an average body type, at least for a corner) body and used his brains and with those became one of the best corners of last year. Revis does what other corners can't; not only does he have the perfect body for it, but he plans to do it. He positions his body in perfect places, during actual plays no less. The guy is a freakin' genius at it. It's NOT something every corner can do, and it's NOT something that can just be learned lickety split. Revis is a natural, and that's just that. ALL corners try to be as physical as Revis is; the fact is that Revis is just better at it. That's why he's an elite corner right now. I'm not sure how that escapes you, but that's how it is.
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No it doesnt excape me. The simple fact is the refs let him get away with it. Myabe its hype, mabye they are told to beacuse of his marketability, who knows. What is called as a penalty for every single other player, he gets a free pass. That does not set a fair playing field and when you talk about who the best is, that is a concern. Give that lattatude to any of the top 10 corners, and they will have just as good of a season as Revis. Nnamdi Asomugha was/is a better corner than Revis. That guy set the standard for shutdown out in Oakland. The fact no one evern through his way, is testement. Now the stupid schemes they have out in philly are the reason he had such a bad year, but he is a beter corner than Revis. I think Webb has the potential to be better, and considering the cost/production, is a MUCH better value for this team.

[RavenFanatic1327]

webb is definitely 1 of the best cbs in the league. he is gonna be a future pro bowler

[Clutch Ravens]

[url="http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/07/27/2011-route-efficiency-go-routes/"]http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/07/27/2011-route-efficiency-go-routes/[/url]

Thought this PFF article was pretty interesting.

While defending the 9, fly, go, whatever you want to call it, Webb conceded one catch for 14 yards on 7 attempts. He also came away with a pair of picks.

Moral of this story: Don't throw at Webb when you can avoid it and, if you're going deep, best of luck to you. You'll need it.

[ellicottraven]

To me our own spider man is the best corner in the league!

[scrock]

I think Webb will be the best CB in the league, he plays the WR so well and he reacts to football STRONG...I mean some of those INTs last year especially the one against the Bengals was just incredible

..i know he's not a CB but Webb reminds me of how a young Ed Reed would ball hawk

[Radinho84]

what i like most about webb is his consistent development. he got better every year. his best games last year came in the most important games. in the playoffs. he can produce when he is most needed. that is what you expect of your superstar...

[blitzking33]

[quote name='sflegend89' timestamp='1342670747' post='1100514']
Love this pick, I went crazy when it happened live!

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3Z2o3N5GpE[/media]
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Reminds me of Chris McAllister's pick 6 in 06' I believe against the Bills. I think it was a prime time game, all black as well. Chris just jumped the route and took it to the house.

[u]Juct checked: [/u]Yup, I was right.
3rd Quarter [url="http://www.nfl.com/teams/profile?team=BAL"][img]http://i.nflcdn.com/static/site/4.2/img/logos/20x20/BAL.png[/img][/url] M.Stover 39 yd. Field Goal (4-4, 1:47) [url="http://www.nfl.com/teams/profile?team=BUF"][img]http://i.nflcdn.com/static/site/4.2/img/logos/20x20/BUF.png[/img][/url] L.Evans 44 yd. pass from J.Losman (R.Lindell kick) (9-76, 4:20) [url="http://www.nfl.com/teams/profile?team=BAL"][img]http://i.nflcdn.com/static/site/4.2/img/logos/20x20/BAL.png[/img][/url] C.McAlister 31 yd. interception return (M.Stover kick)

[PurpleReign92]

The issue with corners are there to busy thinking about the interception that they forget about covering... For an int you need to be at the right place at the right time Reed, Revis and Webb all have the timing part down. then when combined with the fundamentals of football equals a very pro bowl style player..

[kassaiscool]

The best corner is Revis while Webb is the better playmaker. Revis is stronger, faster, and has better technique than Webb but Lardarius is a fearless player he will come up and make a hit even though he is pretty small. Webb is good at reading offenses and jumping routes, I love him as a football player.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='PurpleReign92' timestamp='1343650179' post='1106435']
The issue with corners are there to busy thinking about the interception that they forget about covering... For an int you need to be at the right place at the right time Reed, Revis and Webb all have the timing part down. then when combined with the fundamentals of football equals a very pro bowl style player..
[/quote]your logic is flawless

[The Raven]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1343651448' post='1106443']
your logic is flawless
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I think he's really onto something great here.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1343680784' post='1106802']
I think he's really onto something great here.
[/quote]could you imagine getting an interception from the other side of the field the ball is thrown too?

[The Raven]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1343683033' post='1106835']
could you imagine getting an interception from the other side of the field the ball is thrown too?
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Lol anyone who can do that has great fundamentals and impeccable timing. I'd say he'd be a pro bowl style player.

[PurpleReign92]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1343683123' post='1106838']
Lol anyone who can do that has great fundamentals and impeccable timing. I'd say he'd be a pro bowl style player.
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Amen to that!!!!

[Yoonkeem]

When Webb gets old,
I think we should put him on FS,
like what Woodson is doing for the packers.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='PurpleReign92' timestamp='1343684718' post='1106885']

Amen to that!!!!
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And over head...

[The Raven]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1343685903' post='1106915']
And over head...
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Hahaha I know right?

[jdynamite]

Webb really did step up and play exceptional last season and I hope he plays up to that same level and even better.. He didn't get the recognition and acalades that he deserved but the Ravens FO recognized him by giving him an extension.....

I never expected Webb to play as well as he did last year because going into last season I wanted Webb to start at Nickle CB, ultimately I figure with his college Safety experience and his sure tackling that he would maybe move back to safety in the future but with his development as a CB those thoughts have vanished for me, he is and will be a starter for a long time... I hope Jimmy Smith also develops into a solid corner... Could be our best duo since C.McAlister & D.Starks ( I personally liked that duo over S.Rolle & McAlister

[PeRK82]

[quote name='sflegend89' timestamp='1342662639' post='1100456']
Will be the 2 names that go hand in hand with the phrase "Best CB in Football" by the end of next season. That's how confident I am in the way Webb is playing right now. People outside Baltimore have been sleeping on Webb for FAR TOO LONG! This is the year he finally get's recognized as an "elite" CB. We are blessed as fans to have this young man on our team, Webb is about to become a premier defender and add to the list of Ravens greats on D.

The scariest part is we haven't even seen him at his best yet, expect a dominant 2012-2013 campaign from Mr. Webb. It's safe to say our FO struck gold yet again.


Lewis, Reed, Suggs, Ngata, AND WEBB. How crazy would it be to have 5 HOF'ers play on the same D. It's actually possible if you ask me.


Lewis: Lock

Reed: Lock

Suggs: Probable

Ngata: Probable

Webb: Don't miss a game!
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Only Reason why REVIS is considered better imo is because he gets away from so many P.I. , its unreal. He does nothing but hold WRers. Makes me sick and even Revis will admit it. If they are the So Called Best, why make their Job easier. No wonder why they are so good. Webb didn't get Scored on, Revis did. Nuff Said.

Oh and i was so dumbfounded that Webb was on the Top 100. What else do you have to do, he made big plays on Sunday and Monday night games.

[display name]

[quote name='raybaby' timestamp='1342685700' post='1100539']
Love Webb but he just had his first shut down season. Keep in mind with our best pass rusher out and going against tougher competition, he is going to be tested much more this season. While I'm sure he'll still have a great season and a great career.. lets slow down on the HOF talks. If he has a similar season as last season in those circumstances then I'll join in on those talks without hesitation lol
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I agree that the HOF talks can relax. At the same time, like you said, if Lardarius Webb plays at least as good as he did last year, and Jimmy Smith continues to improve, I do agree that we could have the best CB duo in team history! It will last longer than Chris McAlister/Duane Starks duo of the late 1990s and early 2000s, and they will be much younger than the McAlister/Samari Rolle group of the mid-to late 2000s.
Lardarius Webb carries the perfect Baltimore Ravens style of play.
Very Lardarius!
Also, one thing that could make Webb even better would be if we bumped him down to a backup returner. That way, he isn't as tired while playing CB and he could focus almost soleley on that. That's why I wanted Jim Leonhard to come back.