Who Is On Your All Time Ravens Team?

[berad]

[quote name='INRavensgirl' timestamp='1342532740' post='1099497']
Ok so the question should be

Who was/is better in their prime? J-Lew or Lil Ray?
[/quote]

Has Ray hit his prime yet?

Jamal was GREAT during his earlier career but the tread on those tires ran out really quick - be it because of injury, the fact that he was the only offensive weapon, etc.

[quote name='SuperBowlDreamin' timestamp='1342532948' post='1099501']
And, lastly, I noticed a lot of you moved guys around in positions, just to bring them into the team. Neither Rod Woodson or Ed Reed played Strong Safety, so I believe that you should have to choose one for Free Safety and leave Woodson off the list.
[/quote]

Ed Reed was a SS. I believe his DPOY season was as a Strong Safety.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='INRavensgirl' timestamp='1342532740' post='1099497']
Ok so the question should be

Who was/is better in their prime?[b] J-Lew [/b]or Lil Ray?
[/quote]

You should check out just how poor our passing offenses were during Jamal's prime. He didn't even have a quarterback we could trust to throw a proper check-down pass. None of Jamal's passing offenses finished better than 20th in the league, while the worst passing offense Rice has ever had to work with finished 18th in the league. I'll always take Jamal over Ray, because I truly believe if Jamal had the supporting cast Ray did, and wasn't worn out so much, he would have put up staggering numbers.

[The Raven]

It would really depend on what kind of offense you played, but I would have to take Jamal over Ray. He was such a punishing runner. He punished defenders in a way that Rice could never dream of.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='757RavensFan' timestamp='1342532010' post='1099489']
I'm surprised at all of the selections of Jamal Lewis over Ray Rice. I couldn't have been the only one frustrated w/ [b]Jamal Lewis tip-toeing when he got to the line??[/b]
[/quote]because Ray Rice doesnt???????!!!!

I needed to make my point there, he is awful for that!

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='SuperBowlDreamin' timestamp='1342532948' post='1099501']
The other question I have is, are you basing these selections on their time as Baltimore Ravens? Also, I think most of you are also lowering a player's score in your heads and hearts, based on what you expected from them. You are all knocking down Michael Oher, who actually made the Pro Bowl as a Right Tackle over Zeus, who had decent years here and in Cleveland, made a lot of stupid penalties and some real monster blocks. And, lastly, I noticed a lot of you moved guys around in positions, just to bring them into the team. Neither Rod Woodson or Ed Reed played Strong Safety, so I believe that you should have to choose one for Free Safety and leave Woodson off the list.
[/quote]Ed Started as a Strong Safety then slide of to FS as he got older

[EdReedFTW]

I wonder, what does everyone think is the weakest position (on defense?) It seems Sharper for the second inside linebacker is probably the weakest link.

[Bazooka Joe]

53 man all time roster:
QB:
Flacco
McNair
Dilfer

RB
Ray Rice
Jamal Lewis
Priest Holmes
Vonta Leach

WR
Torrey Smith
Anquan Boldin
Derrick Mason
Jermaine Lewis
Michael Jackson
Qadry Ismail

TE
Todd Heap
Shannon Sharpe

OL
Jon Ogden
Mulitalo
Birk
Yanda
Orlando Brown
Matt Flynn
Ben Grubbs
Wally Williams
Tony Jones
Steve Everritt

DL
Ngata
Siragusa
Sam Adams
Michael McCrary
Rob Burnett
Trevor Pryce
Kelly Gregg

LB
Ray
Suggs
Jamie Sharper
Bart Scott
Adalius Thomas
Peter Boulware
Ed Hartwell

CB
CMAC
L. Webb
Samari Rolle
Jimmy Smith
Duane Starks
Cary Williams

Safety
Ed Reed
Rod Woodson
Kim Herring
Bernard Pollard

Kicker
Matt Stover

Punter
Sam Koch

LS
Morgan Cox

KR/PR
Jermaine Lewis
Ed Reed

[Bazooka Joe]

[quote name='757RavensFan' timestamp='1342532010' post='1099489']
I'm surprised at all of the selections of Jamal Lewis over Ray Rice. I couldn't have been the only one frustrated w/ Jamal Lewis tip-toeing when he got to the line??
[/quote]

I agree. Jamal might be the more punishing RB, but he was nowhere near the overall offensive threat at any point in his career that Rice is now. Rice has the potential to have games with both 100 yards rushing and 100 yards passing. Rice is an unique talent. Lewis was very good and had one great season. Sadly that type of runner is a dinosaur these days. With defenses more slanted to the pass these days, Jamal if in his prime now would destroy these guys.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='Bazooka Joe' timestamp='1342551662' post='1099716']
I agree. Jamal might be the more punishing RB, but he was nowhere near the overall offensive threat at any point in his career that Rice is now. Rice has the potential to have games with both 100 yards rushing and [b]100 yards passing[/b]. Rice is an unique talent. Lewis was very good and had one great season. Sadly that type of runner is a dinosaur these days. With defenses more slanted to the pass these days, Jamal if in his prime now would destroy these guys.
[/quote]

Jamal's QBs:

Kyle Boller - in 3 full years starting at Cal, completed an astounding 47, 49, and 53 percent of his passes (I'm not even going to mention his NFL stats because I STILL can't figure out why we drafted him when he was so bad at Cal).

Jeff Blake - career 56 percent passer

Chris Redman - 53 percent completion in 6 starts as a Raven

Anthony Wright - same as Redman

For his career, Jamal averaged 8.5 yards per reception, Ray Rice 8.9 - so pretty close. The difference is in the quality of quarterbacks. The ONLY quarterback Jamal ever had who completed at over 56 percent of his passes at all in one season was McNair. Rice averages about twice as many receptions a season as Jamal did during his career - that's a product of our overall offense being better IMO, not a reflection on the two players' quality as pass-catchers. In his first 3 seasons Jamal caught exactly 100 passes. In 3 years starting Rice has about 220 passes, and caught 30 passes his rookie season as a backup - as a full time starter Jamal had 30+ receptions only 3 times in 8 seasons - twice in Baltimore and once in Cleveland.

[JEEPercreepermd]

Here's my all time

QB 1 Flacco
QB 2 Testaverde

RB Errict Rhett..syke.. Ray Rice

FB Leach

LT Ogden
LG Mulitalo
C Flynn
RG Yanda
RT Orlando Brown

WR's Mason, Boldin, Ismial

DEFENSE

DE Haloti Ngata Trevor Pryce
DT Sam Adams Kelly Gregg
OLB Suggs, Boulware
Ilb Lewis, Scott

CB CMAC, Webb, Starks
S Reed, Woodson

KR Jermaine Lewis

K Stover
P Koch

HC Harbaugh
OC Billick
DC Lewis

[SuperBowlDreamin]

Berad - You are right about Ed Reed being the SS back in the early years. I forgot that we had Will Demps and he wasn't tough enough to play SS, so Ed played out of position for four years. Thanks for the update.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='SuperBowlDreamin' timestamp='1342648952' post='1100372']
Berad - You are right about Ed Reed being the SS back in the early years. I forgot that we had Will Demps and he wasn't tough enough to play SS, so Ed played out of position for four years. Thanks for the update.
[/quote]

Ed won DPOY at SS. Something i always like to remind Steelers fans when they try to say you can't compare Ed to Polamolu since they now play different positions.

[GermanRaven]

[i][b]53 Man All-Time Ravens Roster:[/b][/i]

[b]QB's[/b]
[b]Joe Flacco[/b]
Steve McNair(rip)
Vinny Testaverde

[b]RB[/b]'[b]s[/b]
[b]Jamal Lewis[/b]
Ray Rice
Willis McGahee


[b]FB[/b]
[b]Vonta Leach[/b]

[b]WR[/b]'[b]s[/b]
[b]Anquan Boldin[/b]
[b]Torrey Smith[/b]
Derrick Mason
Qadry Ismail
Derrick Alexander

[b]TE's[/b]
[b]Todd Heap[/b]
Shannon Sharpe
Dennis Pitta

[b]O-Line
LT Jonathan Ogden
LG Edwin Mulitalo
C Mike Flynn
RG Marshall Yanda
RT Kelechi Osemele[/b]

LT Tony Jones
LG Ben Grubbs
C Matt Birk
RG Bennie Anderson
RT Orlando Brown

[b]D-Line (4-3)
RE Michael McCrary
DT Tony Siragusa
DT Sam Adams
LE Haloti Ngata[/b]

RE Trevor Pryce
DT Kelly Gregg
DT Jarret Johnson
LE Rob Burnett

[b]LB's[/b]
[b]LOLB Terrell Suggs
MLB Ray Lewis
ROLB Peter Boulware[/b]

LOLB Adalius Thomas
MLB Bart Scott
ROLB Jamie Sharper

[b]CB's
Chris McAlister[/b]
[b]Lardarius Webb[/b]
Duane Starks
Samari Rolle
Deion Sanders

[b]FS
Rod Woodson[/b]
Eric Turner

[b]SS
Ed Reed[/b]
Bernard Pollard

[b]K
Matt Stover[/b]

[b]P
Sam Koch[/b]

[b]LS
Matt Katula[/b]

[b]KR/PR
Jermaine Lewis
Jacoby Jones[/b]

[b]HC
John Harbaugh
OC
Kirk Ferentz
DC
Marvin Lewis[/b]

....moved Webb to starter(Starks also shined as a backup)
replaced Brown with Matt Birk, Landry with Bernard Pollard, Holmes with Dennis Pitta and
Williams with Deion Sanders(Also notable considerations: David Pittman, Corey Ivey or Ronnie Prude)

[The Oakland Cathedral]

[quote name='GermanRaven' timestamp='1360204748' post='1348641']
[i][b]53 Man All-Time Ravens Roster:[/b][/i]

[b]QB's[/b]
[b]Joe Flacco[/b]
Steve McNair(rip)
Vinny Testaverde

[b]RB[/b]'[b]s[/b]
[b]Jamal Lewis[/b]
Ray Rice
Willis McGahee
Priest Holmes

[b]FB[/b]
[b]Vonta Leach[/b]

[b]WR[/b]'[b]s[/b]
[b]Anquan Boldin[/b]
[b]Torrey Smith[/b]
Derrick Mason
Qadry Ismail
Derrick Alexander

[b]TE's[/b]
[b]Todd Heap[/b]
Shannon Sharpe

[b]O-Line
LT Jonathan Ogden
LG Edwin Mulitalo
C Mike Flynn
RG Marshall Yanda
RT Kelechi Osemele[/b]

LT Tony Jones
LG Ben Grubbs
C Jason Brown
RG Bennie Anderson
RT Orlando Brown

[b]D-Line (4-3)
RE Michael McCrary
DT Tony Siragusa
DT Sam Adams
LE Haloti Ngata[/b]

RE Trevor Pryce
DT Kelly Gregg
DT Jarret Johnson
LE Rob Burnett

[b]LB's[/b]
[b]LOLB Terrell Suggs
MLB Ray Lewis
ROLB Peter Boulware[/b]

LOLB Adalius Thomas
MLB Bart Scott
ROLB Jamie Sharper

[b]CB's
Chris McAlister
Duane Starks[/b]
Lardarius Webb
Samari Rolle
Cary Williams

[b]FS
Rod Woodson[/b]
Eric Turner

[b]SS
Ed Reed[/b]
Dawan Landry

[b]K
Matt Stover[/b]

[b]P
Sam Koch[/b]

[b]LS
Matt Katula[/b]

[b]KR/PR
Jermaine Lewis
Jacoby Jones[/b]

[b]HC
John Harbaugh
OC
Kirk Ferentz
DC
Marvin Lewis[/b]
[/quote]A few things.
1. Birk needs to be on there.
2. KO should be on there at LG instead of Grubs.
3. Bernard Pollard is way better than Landry.
4. Haloti is a RE if I'm not mistaken.
5. Pitta should be included.
6. A few years from now and Justin Tucker will be on that list.

[jdynamite]

[quote name='GermanRaven' timestamp='1360204748' post='1348641']
[i][b]53 Man All-Time Ravens Roster:[/b][/i]

[b]QB's[/b]
[b]Joe Flacco[/b]
Steve McNair(rip)
Vinny Testaverde

[b]RB[/b]'[b]s[/b]
[b]Jamal Lewis[/b]
Ray Rice
Willis McGahee
Priest Holmes

[b]FB[/b]
[b]Vonta Leach[/b]

[b]WR[/b]'[b]s[/b]
[b]Anquan Boldin[/b]
[b]Torrey Smith[/b]
Derrick Mason
Qadry Ismail
Derrick Alexander

[b]TE's[/b]
[b]Todd Heap[/b]
Shannon Sharpe

[b]O-Line
LT Jonathan Ogden
LG Edwin Mulitalo
C Mike Flynn
RG Marshall Yanda
RT Kelechi Osemele[/b]

LT Tony Jones
LG Ben Grubbs
C Jason Brown
RG Bennie Anderson
RT Orlando Brown

[b]D-Line (4-3)
RE Michael McCrary
DT Tony Siragusa
DT Sam Adams
LE Haloti Ngata[/b]

RE Trevor Pryce
DT Kelly Gregg
DT Jarret Johnson
LE Rob Burnett

[b]LB's[/b]
[b]LOLB Terrell Suggs
MLB Ray Lewis
ROLB Peter Boulware[/b]

LOLB Adalius Thomas
MLB Bart Scott
ROLB Jamie Sharper

[b]CB's
Chris McAlister
Duane Starks[/b]
Lardarius Webb
Samari Rolle
Cary Williams

[b]FS
Rod Woodson[/b]
Eric Turner

[b]SS
Ed Reed[/b]
Dawan Landry

[b]K
Matt Stover[/b]

[b]P
Sam Koch[/b]

[b]LS
Matt Katula[/b]

[b]KR/PR
Jermaine Lewis
Jacoby Jones[/b]

[b]HC
John Harbaugh
OC
Kirk Ferentz
DC
Marvin Lewis[/b]
[/quote]

Ok I'm just going to substitute a few people.

FB - Sam Gash
RG - Grubbs ( played rookie year )
RT - Yanda ( rookie year & 2010)
CB - replace Cary Williams with one of the following. Antonio Langham, Josh Wilson , the old Deion Sanders ( yeah I'd rather that version of Deion over Cary after all its my 5th CB and I'd love to see Deion and Rod Woodson together.

[jdynamite]

[quote name='Miami Hurricane' timestamp='1360209150' post='1348739']
A few things.
1. Birk needs to be on there.
2. KO should be on there at LG instead of Grubs.
3. Bernard Pollard is way better than Landry.
4. Haloti is a RE if I'm not mistaken.
5. Pitta should be included.
6. A few years from now and Justin Tucker will be on that list.
[/quote]

Ngata is listed as a RE right now but it means little Ngata barely ever lines up in the same position for more than one series. He rotates across the D-Line, and for the first 5 years of his career he started at RDT, RDE, NT, LDE, RDE ( pro-football reference.com). Similar to Suggs whom is listed as a LB has played RDE, Lolb, Rolb, and lets not forget how his contract dispute years ago was based on the fact that he constantly played with his hand on ground as if he were full time DE lol.

Lets just say Ravens like Versatility.

See Yanda RT and RG, Adalius Thomas & Jarrett Johnson played everything along the front 7 of the defense.

[bmore187]

All Ravens SCRUB team offense

QB Boller
RB Bam Morris
FB Sam Gash

WR Clarence Moore
WR Patrick Johnson
WR Frank Sanders

LT Leon Searcy
LG Jah Reid
C Wally Williams
RG Oneil Cousins
RT Adam Terry

[GermanRaven]

[quote name='jdynamite' timestamp='1360222583' post='1348903']
Ok I'm just going to substitute a few people.

FB - Sam Gash
RG - Grubbs ( played rookie year )
RT - Yanda ( rookie year & 2010)
CB - replace Cary Williams with one of the following. Antonio Langham, Josh Wilson , the old Deion Sanders ( yeah I'd rather that version of Deion over Cary after all its my 5th CB and I'd love to see Deion and Rod Woodson together.
[/quote]

- Oh Sam Gash was great to. It was close between him, Leach and McClain(really "stepped Mike Anderson up" the season McGahee went down)
- I just benched Grubbs because i like Yanda as a RG in combo with RT Osemele a bit more.
-Of course i would pick "Cowboys Prime Time" over Cary Williams all-day BUT i compared the int's and Williams had 4 in one season, Deion a total of five in two seasons.
Imagine Deion in his prime and Woodson in his prime as our CB's!
Haha they would never throw a ball to them. And in the middle Ballhawk Reed is waiting too
- Yea maybe Pollard is a better option as Backup as Landry...What was i thinkin'!

[GermanRaven]

[quote name='Miami Hurricane' timestamp='1360209150' post='1348739']
A few things.
1. Birk needs to be on there.
2. KO should be on there at LG instead of Grubs.
3. Bernard Pollard is way better than Landry.
4. Haloti is a RE if I'm not mistaken.
5. Pitta should be included.
6. A few years from now and Justin Tucker will be on that list.
[/quote]

Birk and Pitta are runner-ups^^
Hm thought Ngata played 2009-10 LE
Totally agree on Tucker!

[Warren2621]

This isnt even a bias response, I like this many of the new crew this much.

QB- Flacco
RB - Rice
WR - Boldin
WR - Smith
TE - Sharpe
OT- Ogen
OT - McKinnie (im a U fan)
G - Grubb
G - Yanda
C - Birk

DE- McCrary
DT - Ngata
DT - Siragusa
DE - Trevor Pyrce
LB - Suggs
LB - Ray
LB - Boulware
CB - Webb
CB - McAlister
S- Reed
S - Woodson
K - Stover
P - Koch
KR - Jacoby
PR - Ed Reed

[PurpleCorsair]

Eh, Starks over Webb?
And someone had Cary over Graham?

Come on man!

Pitta needs some love too!

And who would our coaches be?

[The Oakland Cathedral]

[quote name='GermanRaven' timestamp='1360233461' post='1348944']


Birk and Pitta are runner-ups^^
Hm thought Ngata played 2009-10 LE
Totally agree on Tucker!
[/quote]Birk is one of the best centers of all time he should be at least ahead of Jason Brown

[GermanRaven]

[quote name='Miami Hurricane' timestamp='1360256002' post='1349183']
Birk is one of the best centers of all time he should be at least ahead of Jason Brown
[/quote]

Ok, fixed now

[zac_fuller]

[quote name='INRavensgirl' timestamp='1342532538' post='1099492']
The only ones that immediately come to mind without any thought are Jonathan Ogden, Ray Lewis, and Matt Stover.

The rest I shall have to think about.
[/quote]

ed reed anyone?

[52liveforever]

[center][i][b]53 Man All-Time Ravens Roster:[/b][/i]

[b]QB's[/b]
[b]Joe Flacco[/b]
Steve McNair(rip)
Vinny Testaverde

[b]RB[/b]'[b]s[/b]
[b]Ray Rice[/b]
Jamaal Lewis
Willis McGahee


[b]FB[/b]
[b]Vonta Leach[/b]

[b]WR[/b]'[b]s[/b]
[b]Anquan Boldin[/b]
[b]Torrey Smith[/b]
Derrick Mason
Qadry Ismail
Derrick Alexander

[b]TE's[/b]
[b]Todd Heap[/b]
Shannon Sharpe
Dennis Pitta

[b]O-Line
LT Jonathan Ogden
LG Edwin Mulitalo
C Mike Flynn
RG Marshall Yanda
RT Michael Oher[/b]

LT Tony Jones
LG Kelechi Osemeli
C Matt Birk
RG Ben Grubbs
RT Orlando Brown

[b]D-Line (3-4) (4-3)[/b]
[b]DE Haloti Ngata DE Terrell Suggs[/b]
[b]NT Tony Sirausa DT Haloti Ngata[/b]
[b]DE Trevor Pryce DT Tony Siragusa [/b]
[b]DE Michael McCrar[/b][/center]
[center]DE Sam Adams .
NT Kelly Gregg DE Rob Burnett
DE Cory Redding DT Sam Adams
DT kelly Gregg
[b]LB's [/b]DE Trevor Pryce
[b]LOLB Terrell Suggs .
MLB Ray Lewis LB's .[/b]
[b]MLB Jamie Sharper LOLB Peter Boulware
ROLB Peter Boulware MLB Ray Lewis [/b]
[b]ROLB Jamie Sharper[/b]
LOLB Adalius Thomas .
MLB Bart Scott LOLB Adalius Thomas
MLB Dannell Ellerbe MLB Bart Scott
ROLB Michael McCrary ROLB Dannell Ellerbe

[b]CB's
Chris McAlister[/b]
[b]Lardarius Webb[/b]
Duane Starks
Samari Rolle
Deion Sanders

[b]FS
Ed Reed[/b]
Rod Woodson

[b]SS
Bernard Pollard[/b]
Kim Herring

[b]K
Matt Stover[/b]

[b]P
Sam Koch[/b]

[b]LS
Matt Katula[/b]

[b]KR/PR
Jermaine Lewis
Jacoby Jones[/b]

[b]HC
John Harbaugh
OC
Jim Caldwell
DC
Marvin Lewis[/b]

i had to move my front seven around to cater to the 3-4 or 4-3 set. some people are bothering me by putting Ngata at DE in a 4-3 and McCrary at DE in a 3-4. Ngata would absolutely be a DT in the 4-3. his position in the 3-4 says DE but hes still more of a DT the linebacker is the DE just without the hand in the dirt. McCrary would get man handled as a 3-4 DE just way to small which is why i moved him to OLB in the 3-4[/center]

[52liveforever]

[b]QB's[/b]
[b]Joe Flacco[/b]
Steve McNair(rip)
Vinny Testaverde

[b]RB[/b]'[b]s[/b]
[b]Ray Rice[/b]
Jamaal Lewis
Willis McGahee


[b]FB[/b]
[b]Vonta Leach[/b]

[b]WR[/b]'[b]s[/b]
[b]Anquan Boldin[/b]
[b]Torrey Smith[/b]
Derrick Mason
Qadry Ismail
Derrick Alexander

[b]TE's[/b]
[b]Todd Heap[/b]
Shannon Sharpe
Dennis Pitta

[b]O-Line
LT Jonathan Ogden
LG Edwin Mulitalo
C Mike Flynn
RG Marshall Yanda
RT Michael Oher[/b]

LT Tony Jones
LG Kelechi Osemeli
C Matt Birk
RG Ben Grubbs
RT Orlando Brown

[b]D-Line (3-4) [/b]
[b]DE Haloti Ngata [/b]
[b]NT Tony Sirausa [/b]
[b]DE Trevor Pryce [/b]

DE Sam Adams .
NT Kelly Gregg
DE Cory Redding

[b]LB's [/b]
[b]LOLB Terrell Suggs
MLB Ray Lewis[/b]
[b]MLB Jamie Sharper
ROLB Peter Boulware [/b]

LOLB Adalius Thomas .
MLB Bart Scott
MLB Dannell Ellerbe
ROLB Michael McCrary

[b]D-Line (4-3)[/b]
[b]DE Terrell Suggs[/b]
[b]DT Haloti Ngata[/b]
[b]DT Tony Siragusa[/b]
[b]DE Michael McCrary[/b]

DE Rob Burnett
DT Sam Adams
DT kelly Gregg
DE Trevor Pryce

[b]LB's[/b]
[b]LOLB Peter Boulware[/b]
[b]MLB Ray Lewis[/b]
[b]ROLB Jamie Sharper[/b]

LOLB Adalius Thomas
MLB Bart Scott
ROLB Dannell Ellerbe

[b]CB's
Chris McAlister[/b]
[b]Lardarius Webb[/b]
Duane Starks
Samari Rolle
Deion Sanders

[b]FS
Ed Reed[/b]
Rod Woodson

[b]SS
Bernard Pollard[/b]
Kim Herring

[b]K
Matt Stover[/b]

[b]P
Sam Koch[/b]

[b]LS
Matt Katula[/b]

[b]KR/PR
Jermaine Lewis
Jacoby Jones[/b]

[b]HC
John Harbaugh
OC
Jim Caldwell
DC
Marvin Lewis[/b]

i had to move my front seven around to cater to the 3-4 or 4-3 set. some people are bothering me by putting Ngata at DE in a 4-3 and McCrary at DE in a 3-4. Ngata would absolutely be a DT in the 4-3. his position in the 3-4 says DE but hes still more of a DT the linebacker is the DE just without the hand in the dirt. McCrary would get man handled as a 3-4 DE just way to small which is why i moved him to OLB in the 3-4. and i know im being very generous with ellerbe but he's been a favorite of mine the past couple seasons

[52liveforever]

Scrub Team
QB- Kyle Boller
RB- Bam Morris
TE- Ed Dickson
WR- TJ housh
WR- Lee Evans
LT- Leon Searcy
LG- Bobbie Williams
C- Wally Williams
RG- Oneil Cousins
RT- Adam Terry

Defense
terrence cody, frank walker, and dominique foxworth
C-

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='zac_fuller' timestamp='1360293887' post='1349894']


ed reed anyone?
[/quote]issue is what position he's in. Played both roles and was arguably the best modern day player at both positions. Probably had better career playing ss role

[zac_fuller]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1360325196' post='1350165']
issue is what position he's in. Played both roles and was arguably the best modern day player at both positions. Probably had better career playing ss role
[/quote]

ah i see, I thought they were contemplating leaving the best safety in nfl history off the list haha. I almost had a meltdown