The Return Of ATD Fantasy Football 2012-2013

[PuRock]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1350320069' post='1191141']
PuRock needs 13 pts from Elvis Dumervill to catch me. Im kinda worried with Gaither out, but i think I'll squeak by.

Someone has to set the bar for the rest of you to look up to.
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You got it. Dumervil will have to get a sack/fumble and pick it up for a TD for me to win.

If only DeMarco Murray stayed in the game. He was 7 yards shy of hitting the 100 yard bonus and Dez Bryant was 5 yards shy of the bonus. Just didn't have any luck this game. If I were playing anybody else this week, I'd probably would've won. Its a tough one.

And all your players did well despite some bad matchups. Welker and Vick (finally) killed it. Spiller played well against the Cards D.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1350320643' post='1191163']


You got it. Dumervil will have to get a sack/fumble and pick it up for a TD for me to win.

If only DeMarco Murray stayed in the game. He was 7 yards shy of hitting the 100 yard bonus and Dez Bryant was 5 yards shy of the bonus. Just didn't have any luck this game. If I were playing anybody else this week, I'd probably would've won. Its a tough one.

And all your players did well despite some bad matchups. Welker and Vick (finally) killed it. Spiller played well against the Cards D.
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Yeah that is some tough luck on your end. I'm squeaking out victories just like the Ravens!

[PuRock]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1350321284' post='1191176']
Yeah that is some tough luck on your end. I'm squeaking out victories just like the Ravens!
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IDK what was up with Dez Bryant's scoring yesterday. They kept taking away 30 points from him and he was only showing 5 points until late last night. Whenever I would look at the score I would have to add 30 points on it to find out where I really stood.

Guess he confused the staticians because he actually put up stats. They were probably like 'Nah, there's no way Dez scored 2 Tds'.

[Sizzlebshu]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1350320206' post='1191144']
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"Insanely lucky"? That's bull. I've been forced to start the likes of Emmanuel Sanders and Shaun Draughn thanks to byes and injuries the past two weeks. It isn't luck that Rodgers, Cobb and Gonzo (last week) went off.
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No but throw in that rg3 gets concussed and gives me 2 points, your best rbs were on bye among other things and you just say well sometimes its better to be lucky. Im not saying you havent had bad luck, just that in your past two matchups, in matchups you should have lost on paper, you came back and won due to phenomenal performances from some players and unfortunate circumstances for your oppns ( i mean really who woulda have picked the texans as the oppn for rodgers to go off on or that rg3, the highest scorer in fantasy, would get concussed and knocked out the week he plays you). I mean you have to admit thats pretty lucky. Not saying your team is bad at all, but luck has been on your side more so than not for these last two matchups. How that plays into the rest of the season, who knows, but just looking at those last two matchups yea it was on your side.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Sizzlebshu' timestamp='1350322768' post='1191202']
No but throw in that rg3 gets concussed and gives me 2 points, your best rbs were on bye among other things and you just say well sometimes its better to be lucky. Im not saying you havent had bad luck, just that in your past two matchups, in matchups you should have lost on paper, you came back and won due to phenomenal performances from some players and unfortunate circumstances for your oppns ( i mean really who woulda have picked the texans as the oppn for rodgers to go off on or that rg3, the highest scorer in fantasy, would get concussed and knocked out the week he plays you). I mean you have to admit thats pretty lucky. Not saying your team is bad at all, but luck has been on your side more so than not for these last two matchups. How that plays into the rest of the season, who knows, but just looking at those last two matchups yea it was on your side.
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Injuries are a part of the game. Benson got injured against the Colts that same week. Plus, I won by 35.96 points. We can speculate on whether Griffin would have made up that difference had he played a full game, but that would just be opening a can of worms. What if Benson had then stayed healthy? What if Dwayne Bowe had caught one of the two passes he dropped? It goes on.

I don't see how me being projected to lose those "on paper" factors in either. The IDP projection factor into the totals and they're impossible to predict.

[Sizzlebshu]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1350323925' post='1191225']
Injuries are a part of the game. Benson got injured against the Colts that same week. Plus, I won by 35.96 points. We can speculate on whether Griffin would have made up that difference had he played a full game, but that would just be opening a can of worms. What if Benson had then stayed healthy? What if Dwayne Bowe had caught one of the two passes he dropped? It goes on.

I don't see how me being projected to lose those "on paper" factors in either. The IDP projection factor into the totals and they're impossible to predict.
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All my argument is about is the likelihood of these events happening. If the odds of it happening are less than the odds of it not happening and it still happens then you are lucky and beat the odds. Congrats. Theres nothing wrong with it but it is luck. Let's look at what happened

Note im just gonna be general and not look for numbers because i feel that the following are generally pretty agreeable

A-Rod throws 6 tds against arguably the leagues best defense - Can't say thats very likely given how his line has been this year, how he has been this year etc... So you beat the odds on this one

RG3 gets concussed the week I play you. The factor here is the week I play you. Not entirely sure but I believe we only play once. So thats fairly lucky. I concede that Rg3 could get concussed any week but the only week that matter is the week I play you. So while rg3 can get hurt in any 1 out of 14 weeks, the fact that it had to happen the week I played you is lucky. Note argument here has to do with when he gets hurt not if he can. Its one of those lottery things. Injuries are one of the few things that are out of control and generally unpredictable so I dont know how you can justify that it isnt luck.

Your team compensates for a lack of production from bye week fills in by going off at other positions. Rodgers, Tony G and whoever else that week. Even you admitted when I pointed out before that it was fortunate that that had happened.

Im not gonna list everything but I think you get my point here. Even if you had some bad luck during these weeks the good luck you got outweighed the bad in the short term. Did Benson get hurt? Dont know according to you he did ( I just havent checked, too lazy) but if I recall he did put up some production for you so its not as if he threw up a goose egg.

Projections you are right dont matter but a team winning on paper does in some sense. I mean take a look at JO last week. Projected to lose by 40 pts, he ends up winning his matchup because Colston went off which was lucky for him. The projections dont always predict who wins and who loses, but they give you an idea of where you stand. If the point difference is big enough they basically tell you barring an insane performance from players on the other team you should win.

Same deal in the nfl

Who woulda picked the Chiefs to beat the Pack last year or the Saints to go 0-4 before finally winning. These are what we call upsets and we call them upsets because they beat the odds. It happens. Its a legitimate win, but its not the norm,

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Sizzlebshu' timestamp='1350324846' post='1191237']
All my argument is about is the likelihood of these events happening. If the odds of it happening are less than the odds of it not happening and it still happens then you are lucky and beat the odds. Congrats. Theres nothing wrong with it but it is luck. Let's look at what happened

Note im just gonna be general and not look for numbers because i feel that the following are generally pretty agreeable

A-Rod throws 6 tds against arguably the leagues best defense - Can't say thats very likely given how his line has been this year, how he has been this year etc... So you beat the odds on this one

RG3 gets concussed the week I play you. The factor here is the week I play you. Not entirely sure but I believe we only play once. So thats fairly lucky. I concede that Rg3 could get concussed any week but the only week that matter is the week I play you. So while rg3 can get hurt in any 1 out of 14 weeks, the fact that it had to happen the week I played you is lucky. Note argument here has to do with when he gets hurt not if he can. Its one of those lottery things. Injuries are one of the few things that are out of control and generally unpredictable so I dont know how you can justify that it isnt luck.

Your team compensates for a lack of production from bye week fills in by going off at other positions. Rodgers, Tony G and whoever else that week. Even you admitted when I pointed out before that it was fortunate that that had happened.

Im not gonna list everything but I think you get my point here. Even if you had some bad luck during these weeks the good luck you got outweighed the bad in the short term. Did Benson get hurt? Dont know according to you he did ( I just havent checked, too lazy) but if I recall he did put up some production for you so its not as if he threw up a goose egg.

Projections you are right dont matter but a team winning on paper does in some sense. I mean take a look at JO last week. Projected to lose by 40 pts, he ends up winning his matchup because Colston went off which was lucky for him. The projections dont always predict who wins and who loses, but they give you an idea of where you stand. If the point difference is big enough they basically tell you barring an insane performance from players on the other team you should win.

Same deal in the nfl

Who woulda picked the Chiefs to beat the Pack last year or the Saints to go 0-4 before finally winning. These are what we call upsets and we call them upsets because they beat the odds. It happens. Its a legitimate win, but its not the norm,
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Fair enough. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree here because I don't believe simply beating the odds equates to luck in fantasy.

Yes, none of us were expecting Rodgers to hve a historic game against Houston's D but are any of us that surprised he carved them up? He's wildly regarded as the best QB and was going against a pass defense that up until night had only played against one respectable passing game.

Regarding RGIII, his injury wasn't too surprising as well. Even during the drafts, scouts were concerned his frame would be able to handle the punishment he'll see with how often he takes off.

Benson did get hurt. And while he did put up some production, it could easily been a bigger day against Indy's sieve of a defense.

I can't argue with the final sentence on projects, but "insane" performances are part of fantasy.

[Sizzlebshu]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1350328348' post='1191302']
Fair enough. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree here because I don't believe simply beating the odds equates to luck in fantasy.

Yes, none of us were expecting Rodgers to hve a historic game against Houston's D but are any of us that surprised he carved them up? He's wildly regarded as the best QB and was going against a pass defense that up until night had only played against one respectable passing game.

Regarding RGIII, his injury wasn't too surprising as well. Even during the drafts, scouts were concerned his frame would be able to handle the punishment he'll see with how often he takes off.

Benson did get hurt. And while he did put up some production, it could easily been a bigger day against Indy's sieve of a defense.

I can't argue with the final sentence on projects, but "insane" performances are part of fantasy.
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No one's surprised it happened. Its obviously possible and Rodger is capable but the likelihood of it happening against such a vaunted D is minuscule.

My argument on RG3 was more of when he went down vs could he go down. We all knew that his style made him injury prone, but he just as easily could have went down in week 6 instead of when I played you so when does play a factor in it. If you want to say he has the same odds of getting hurt every game (untrue but for the sake of arguement we will) then at that point he went 4 games without injury vs 1 (that very week). So if we were to calculate the odds id find them to be in favor of his health than injury.

im not gonna say anything about benson cause frankly it doesnt matter and I feel we have exhausted all that can be said

If you dont call beating the odds luck, i dont know what you call it. I suppose probability is one thing to call it, but really its the same thing.

You are right insane performances are part of fantasy, but so is luck. As much as we try to be skillful during the draft and calculate who will perform the best, we dont know. Some picks end up booming and others end up busting and ultimately that sometimes comes down to luck. I mean I took rg3 cause of shanahan's offense knowing hed run the ball and hoping that he would be an average passer. Never in my wildest dreams did I think he would put up Michael Vick 2010 numbers. That was luck for me.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Sizzlebshu' timestamp='1350336348' post='1191567']
No one's surprised it happened. Its obviously possible and Rodger is capable but the likelihood of it happening against such a vaunted D is minuscule.

My argument on RG3 was more of when he went down vs could he go down. We all knew that his style made him injury prone, but he just as easily could have went down in week 6 instead of when I played you so when does play a factor in it. If you want to say he has the same odds of getting hurt every game (untrue but for the sake of arguement we will) then at that point he went 4 games without injury vs 1 (that very week). So if we were to calculate the odds id find them to be in favor of his health than injury.

im not gonna say anything about benson cause frankly it doesnt matter and I feel we have exhausted all that can be said

If you dont call beating the odds luck, i dont know what you call it. I suppose probability is one thing to call it, but really its the same thing.

You are right insane performances are part of fantasy, but so is luck. As much as we try to be skillful during the draft and calculate who will perform the best, we dont know. Some picks end up booming and others end up busting and ultimately that sometimes comes down to luck. I mean I took rg3 cause of shanahan's offense knowing hed run the ball and hoping that he would be an average passer. Never in my wildest dreams did I think he would put up Michael Vick 2010 numbers. That was luck for me.
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No matter how low the chances were of Rodgers lighting up Houston's D, they were there. It wasn't as if Matt Cassel did it. Again, it was the best QB against a defense that had faced just one legitimate passing attack this season. Their ranking against the pass was inflated.

How doesn't RGIII have the same odds of getting hurt every game? Please explain that to me. Regardless, him going down wasn't luck on my part. It was unfortunate for you, but considering I won by a healthy margin, there's little telling if Griffin would have been able to put you over even had he played the whole game.

Why doesn't Benson factor in? He was one of my players that got hurt, the same way RGIII did.

I don't consider it luck because they're not even "odds". They're projections, with little-to-no real game factors taken into consideration.

I can agree on luck occurring during the draft. And it does happen during the season but the circumstances of my wins the past two weeks hasn't been an example in my opinion.

[Sizzlebshu]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1350337552' post='1191628']
No matter how low the chances were of Rodgers lighting up Houston's D, they were there. It wasn't as if Matt Cassel did it. Again, it was the best QB against a defense that had faced just one legitimate passing attack this season. Their ranking against the pass was inflated.

How doesn't RGIII have the same odds of getting hurt every game? Please explain that to me. Regardless, him going down wasn't luck on my part. It was unfortunate for you, but considering I won by a healthy margin, there's little telling if Griffin would have been able to put you over even had he played the whole game.

Why doesn't Benson factor in? He was one of my players that got hurt, the same way RGIII did.

I don't consider it luck because they're not even "odds". They're projections, with little-to-no real game factors taken into consideration.

I can agree on luck occurring during the draft. And it does happen during the season but the circumstances of my wins the past two weeks hasn't been an example in my opinion.
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Just because the the chances are there doesnt mean they will happen. The chance of you winning the lottery is there, I dont see you buying a ticket. If you do buy a ticket and win, guess what? You got lucky. Or are you gonna tell me that isn't luck?

RG3 is simple. How much he runs is different in each game therefore his exposure to injury is different in each game. In games he runs more he has more exposure to injury and in games he runs less he is less exposed to injury. So thats fairly simple. Can one hit cause the injury yea. But which scenario is more likely for him to get injured. A game where he gets hit once or one where he gets hit 10 times? If you say anything other than the second answer you're deluding yourself. Furthermore there are other factors such as who is hitting him ( a hit from Ray Lewis 2007 is gonna hurt a lot more than a hit from Ray Lewis 2012). I think I made my point fairly well.

Your counterargument was hilarious. Its not fortunate for me its unfortunate for you. He went down cause of my bad luck not your good luck. Great argument there. Its not like its exactly the same thing.

All I said about benson was that I wasnt gonna say antyhing more about him and thats simply because i felt that all that could have been said has been said.

Odds is a very general word that doesnt just apply to the projections. For example, could Matt Cassel throw 10 tds? If you say no, you are wrong. Technically all he has to do is play 10 snaps for him to even have a chance of throwing 10 tds. Is it remotely likely to happen? God no. The same deal with Rodgers. Can he throw 6 tds? Yes. Is it likely he will do it against the league's top defense. No. He may do well, but thats a career day against one of the most unfavorable matchups possible. If it does happen you got lucky because something unlikely happened. No one blames you for it, its part of the game, but in the end it is luck. What was more likely to happen didnt happen. Its still a legitimate win because thats a part of fantasy which we all acknowledge well except for you since you dont seem to acknowledge luck when it comes to player performance in fantasy.

The difference between luck and consistency is probability. If Rodgers threw 6 tds 4 out of 5 times this year I wouldnt say anything, but since he rarely if he ever has thrown 6tds in a game you cannot say he consistently does this. Therefore, until he does this consistently it is an anomaly and therefore lucky for you. That doesnt mean he cant do it just that it is an outlier for him. And since it is an outlier and therefore out of the norm, it is lucky.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Sizzlebshu' timestamp='1350339066' post='1191688']
Just because the the chances are there doesnt mean they will happen. The chance of you winning the lottery is there, I dont see you buying a ticket. If you do buy a ticket and win, guess what? You got lucky. Or are you gonna tell me that isn't luck?

RG3 is simple. How much he runs is different in each game therefore his exposure to injury is different in each game. In games he runs more he has more exposure to injury and in games he runs less he is less exposed to injury. So thats fairly simple. Can one hit cause the injury yea. But which scenario is more likely for him to get injured. A game where he gets hit once or one where he gets hit 10 times? If you say anything other than the second answer you're deluding yourself. Furthermore there are other factors such as who is hitting him ( a hit from Ray Lewis 2007 is gonna hurt a lot more than a hit from Ray Lewis 2012). I think I made my point fairly well.

Your counterargument was hilarious. Its not fortunate for me its unfortunate for you. He went down cause of my bad luck not your good luck. Great argument there. Its not like its exactly the same thing.

All I said about benson was that I wasnt gonna say antyhing more about him and thats simply because i felt that all that could have been said has been said.

Odds is a very general word that doesnt just apply to the projections. For example, could Matt Cassel throw 10 tds? If you say no, you are wrong. Technically all he has to do is play 10 snaps for him to even have a chance of throwing 10 tds. Is it remotely likely to happen? God no. The same deal with Rodgers. Can he throw 6 tds? Yes. Is it likely he will do it against the league's top defense. No. He may do well, but thats a career day against one of the most unfavorable matchups possible. If it does happen you got lucky because something unlikely happened. No one blames you for it, its part of the game, but in the end it is luck. What was more likely to happen didnt happen. Its still a legitimate win because thats a part of fantasy which we all acknowledge well except for you since you dont seem to acknowledge luck when it comes to player performance in fantasy.

The difference between luck and consistency is probability. If Rodgers threw 6 tds 4 out of 5 times this year I wouldnt say anything, but since he rarely if he ever has thrown 6tds in a game you cannot say he consistently does this. Therefore, until he does this consistently it is an anomaly and therefore lucky for you. That doesnt mean he cant do it just that it is an outlier for him. And since it is an outlier and therefore out of the norm, it is lucky.
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I never implied something was guaranteed to happen if there was a chance it would. The way I see it, the primary reason you feel I've gotten lucky the past two weeks is because I beat you. If I was "insanely lucky" the past two weeks, simply because my top pick had consecutive huge performances, there are no fantasy wins we can't attribute to luck.

Of course how much RGIII runs is going to increase his chances of going down. But there's no scientific method that can calculate how often he'll take off each game or even how much punishment he'll take. So I'd say his odds of going down are the same each game. And it's not out of the realm of possibility for him to get knocked out of a game on a sack within the pocket or simply after throwing the ball from the pocket or on the run. With so many variables, concluding he has the same chance of getting knocked out of a game in any game is more than fair.

It may be hilarious to you, but it's valid. As I said before, injuries are a part of the game. Fantasy players can suffer or benefit from the result but I don't attribute that to luck or lack thereof.

No, you've said all you want to say about Benson because his injury pokes just one hole in your theory I got "lucky" against you.

I'm done.

[gabefergy]

Lol. Should I get some popcorn?

[codizzle]

Hooray for novel like replies..

[Sizzlebshu]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1350345975' post='1191872']
I never implied something was guaranteed to happen if there was a chance it would. The way I see it, the primary reason you feel I've gotten lucky the past two weeks is because I beat you. If I was "insanely lucky" the past two weeks, simply because my top pick had consecutive huge performances, there are no fantasy wins we can't attribute to luck.

Of course how much RGIII runs is going to increase his chances of going down. But there's no scientific method that can calculate how often he'll take off each game or even how much punishment he'll take. So I'd say his odds of going down are the same each game. And it's not out of the realm of possibility for him to get knocked out of a game on a sack within the pocket or simply after throwing the ball from the pocket or on the run. With so many variables, concluding he has the same chance of getting knocked out of a game in any game is more than fair.

It may be hilarious to you, but it's valid. As I said before, injuries are a part of the game. Fantasy players can suffer or benefit from the result but I don't attribute that to luck or lack thereof.

No, you've said all you want to say about Benson because his injury pokes just one hole in your theory I got "lucky" against you.

I'm done.
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If the first thing you said were true why would I bring up Rodgers. The primary reason I feel you got lucky is because you beat the odds several time which by definition is lucky since it goes against the trend. Yes there is room for variation, but you've easily exceeded.

Like I said for the sake of argument I gave you that, but the truth is, as you admitted, its not the same chance every game

Do you realize what youre saying? So its possible for me to have bad luck but not for you to have good luck? Thats hilarious. Yes it was bad that Rg3 went down for me, but it was also good that he went down for you. Its not one or the other, its both. Its bad luck for me but good luck for you. Thats how fantasy football works. One man's loss is another's gain. I mean really how can you even consider that a counterargument. Its laughable.

Ive said what Ive said about benson. Yes its bad that he went down, but that was mitigated by the fact that he still put up numbers before going down. I mean if you wana go there then I could say RG3 based on his performance this week could have easily made up the deficit. I just find, like you mentioned, those arguments to be pointless. All I was saying that while it was bad benson went down, when he went down was fortunate for you since he had already produced unlike RG3 who hadn't yet when he went down. Im just sayin you can see it in both ways. Its not the greatest luck in the world, but its not the worst either.

If you dont attribute to luck, what do you attribute it to? Karma? Injuries are random. We don't know who or when someone will get injured. It is lucky for you when your oppn gets hit with an injury and unlucky when you do. Before you talk about injury prone player, again there are no guarantees that the player will get injured only an increased likelihood.

Didn't think it was necessary to spell any of this out but I guess I was wrong

Again, I am not discrediting the win. You beat me fair. You beat him fair. However, I think its fair to say that the production you got our of certain players (Rodgers for example) was more what you normally got which was fortunate and that certain circumstances you were fortunate enough to fall into (me losing the highest scoring player on my team when your team is essentially at its weakest, due to byes, to unforeseeable circumstances). It happens, thats fantasy football. Going for the Gold was fortunate with Colston being able to make up an insane deficit on his own and we all acknowledge that as lucky, so I dont see why its hard to acknowledge any of what I pointed out as lucky as well.

[JO_75]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1350348162' post='1191942']
Lol. Should I get some popcorn?
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Got My Popcorn as I celebrate my third win of the season!

[Sizzlebshu]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1350359817' post='1192228']
Got My Popcorn as I celebrate my third win of the season!
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got yo popcorn ready?

[JO_75]

[quote name='Sizzlebshu' timestamp='1350360402' post='1192240']
got yo popcorn ready?
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Yep, it's good food to celebrate a win in Fantasy Football. My season was saved by our second attempt at a Trade. Playoffs here I come!

[Mt. Crushmore]

I kinda zoned out for a page there.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1350321599' post='1191179']

IDK what was up with Dez Bryant's scoring yesterday. They kept taking away 30 points from him and he was only showing 5 points until late last night. Whenever I would look at the score I would have to add 30 points on it to find out where I really stood.

Guess he confused the staticians because he actually put up stats. They were probably like 'Nah, there's no way Dez scored 2 Tds'.
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I noticed that weird thing with Dez too. Very strange. That was certainly a lot closer than I thought it would be. Dumervil had a heck of a game.

[codizzle]

Prepping for a playoff run

[Elmo]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1350359817' post='1192228']
Got My Popcorn as I celebrate my third win of the season!
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God, Rivers makes me sick this year...

[PuRock]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1350417554' post='1192786']
I noticed that weird thing with Dez too. Very strange. That was certainly a lot closer than I thought it would be. Dumervil had a heck of a game.
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I figured Dumervil will play well with Gaither out. Too bad he didn't scoop up a TD.

But I had to play you this week. Talk about tough luck. I put up 172 points which would've beat any other team in the league besides you. On top of that, I lost Murray half way through the game (and is now probably out longer) which could've helped big time.

[Sizzlebshu]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1350423306' post='1192900']
I figured Dumervil will play well with Gaither out. Too bad he didn't scoop up a TD.

But I had to play you this week. Talk about tough luck. I put up 172 points which would've beat any other team in the league besides you. On top of that, I lost Murray half way through the game (and is now probably out longer) which could've helped big time.
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My condolences on that especially 7 yards away from the bonus and having felix vulture a td from him. Tried to pm you bout a trade but it seems your inbox is full. Pm me if you wanta make a deal or clear your inbox lol

[Sizzlebshu]

[quote name='Elmo' timestamp='1350419615' post='1192839']
God, Rivers makes me sick this year...
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try having him last year lol. As bad as he is this year, at least he has an excuse. Last year was much worse. Lmk if you want an upgrade lol.

[PuRock]

[quote name='Sizzlebshu' timestamp='1350424428' post='1192924']
My condolences on that especially 7 yards away from the bonus and having felix vulture a td from him. Tried to pm you bout a trade but it seems your inbox is full. Pm me if you wanta make a deal or clear your inbox lol
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Thanks for letting me know my messenger was full. Stuff really piles up quick. I cleaned it out.

[PuRock]

Anybody ever read the recaps in this league? They are really quite fun.

[quote]PuRock's Hot Sauce had the highest losing score in the league this season with 172.02 points.[/quote]

[quote][color=#000000][font=helvetica][size=3]Gunslingers got a combined 23.00 points from their TEs, their highest combined scoring output from the TE position this season.[/size][/font][/color][/quote]

[Sizzlebshu]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1350425470' post='1192946']
Anybody ever read the recaps in this league? They are really quite fun.
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League History? Can I be the league's custodian of records (reference to fx's The League)

[Sizzlebshu]

lol figures er20 has the easiest strength of schedule. What luck. lol

[gabefergy]

whadya know, Lance Kendricks gets me a win...see that Sizzle?

[Sizzlebshu]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1350435430' post='1193089']
whadya know, Lance Kendricks gets me a win...see that Sizzle?
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yea it had nothing to do with the rest of your team (hernandez cough) lol. Kendricks carried your team (foh with that noise)