Aldon Smith Stabbed...

[raybaby]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82a3f82f/article/aldon-smith-stabbed-at-party-49ers-say-injury-is-minor?campaign=Twitter_news

Apparently minor injury. But still scary. Glad he's okay. Maybe time to hang with a different crowd?

[mhead66]

Dang - two people wounded from gunshots, and Smith is stabbed? NOT the kind of party I would want my young defensive star going to, if I was Jimmy Harbaugh. After the DUI in January and a stabbing, Aldon needs to find some calmer friends and some maturity.

[JO_75]

[quote name='mhead66' timestamp='1341096647' post='1094558']
Dang - two people wounded from gunshots, and Smith is stabbed? NOT the kind of party I would want my young defensive star going to, if I was Jimmy Harbaugh. After the DUI in January and a stabbing, Aldon needs to find some calmer friends and some maturity.
[/quote]

What I like to know what the hell he is doing partying after 2 am with Training Camp right around the corner? You got training camp around the corner and he puts himself in risks like this? I mean what if he would have gotten a second DUI, or killed someone in a car accident because of drinking? Jim needs to pull the reigns back on him, just because you got 14 sacks as a rookie doesn't mean you can party until after 2 am.

I'm glad that Aldon is alright after being stabbed but he sure does need to choose his friends wisely and actually be in bed after midnight where he actually is safe and nothing can happen to him.

[Gordo52]

I'm glad he's alright.

[raybaby]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1341098819' post='1094571']
What I like to know what the hell he is doing partying after 2 am with Training Camp right around the corner? You got training camp around the corner and he puts himself in risks like this? I mean what if he would have gotten a second DUI, or killed someone in a car accident because of drinking? Jim needs to pull the reigns back on him, just because you got 14 sacks as a rookie doesn't mean you can party until after 2 am.

I'm glad that Aldon is alright after being stabbed but he sure does need to choose his friends wisely and actually be in bed after midnight where he actually is safe and nothing can happen to him.
[/quote]

I think you are being a little unrealistic. Athletes are normal people too. They are going to go out and be out after 12 at that age. And being close to training camp has nothing to do with it. Majority of these guys still go out when the season is taking place. What he needs to think about is the people he is surrounding himself with like Ray had to do after his incident. As for the drunk driving.. call a driver.. he has the money.. simple as that. Hopefully he is learning from this situations.

[JO_75]

[quote name='raybaby' timestamp='1341100545' post='1094584']
I think you are being a little unrealistic. Athletes are normal people too. They are going to go out and be out after 12 at that age. And being close to training camp has nothing to do with it. Majority of these guys still go out when the season is taking place. What he needs to think about is the people he is surrounding himself with like Ray had to do after his incident. As for the drunk driving.. call a driver.. he has the money.. simple as that. Hopefully he is learning from this situations.
[/quote]

Yes I understand that but why risk the team by doing partying after 12, and please how many players have gotten DUIs in the past and haven't called a cab or anything? The fact he didn't call a cab or anything to prevent his first DUI says how stupid he is. Also at 2 am, most people are in bed so he needs to actually do that. Actually Jim should be concerned that he is partying after 2 am with Camp so close, that tells me there would be a concern of him partying at 2 am during Training Camp when he has practice the next day.

[JO_75]

More info has come out, Aldon was stabbed in the shoulder and abdomen when trying to break up a fight.

[url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/30/report-aldon-smith-got-minor-stab-wounds-breaking-up-a-fight/"]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/30/report-aldon-smith-got-minor-stab-wounds-breaking-up-a-fight/[/url]


[quote][color=#000000][font=Georgia,]CSNBayArea.com reports that [/font][/color][url="http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-san-francisco-niners/niners-talk/49ers-confirm-Aldon-Smith-injured-in-inc?blockID=733456&feedID=5936"]Smith was trying to break up a fight[/url][color=#000000][font=Georgia,] at around 2 a.m. when he was stabbed in the shoulder and abdomen with what is believed to be a small pocketknife. Officers responded to a 911 call at a large party at 2:14 a.m., and three people were taken to the hospital: Smith and two people who sustained gunshot wounds. None of the injuries were life threatening.[/font][/color][/quote]

[Purple Punishment]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1341098819' post='1094571']
What I like to know what the hell he is doing partying after 2 am with Training Camp right around the corner? You got training camp around the corner and he puts himself in risks like this? I mean what if he would have gotten a second DUI, or killed someone in a car accident because of drinking? Jim needs to pull the reigns back on him,[b] just because you got 14 sacks as a rookie doesn't mean you can party until after 2 am.[/b]

I'm glad that Aldon is alright after being stabbed but he sure does need to choose his friends wisely and actually be in bed after midnight where he actually is safe and nothing can happen to him.
[/quote]

Just because I have to get up for work early doesnt mean that I cannot party until after 2am. Hes a grown man and can do whatever he pleases. Who knows, that may have been his last horrah party before training camp.

[JO_75]

[quote name='Purple Punishment' timestamp='1341107507' post='1094594']
Just because I have to get up for work early doesnt mean that I cannot party until after 2am. Hes a grown man and can do whatever he pleases. Who knows, that may have been his last horrah party before training camp.
[/quote]

Yes I understand what your saying. Now remember, he was stabbed twice trying to break up a fight. He escaped with minor injuries and if he was stabbed more times or had a serious injury from it, he could have ended up on IR because he decided to throw a party. He could have easily thrown out his second year in the NFL, especially if he was shot. Too much risk and danger he put himself in by throwing the party and maybe next time he'll learn not to throw a party that goes to after 2 a.m.

[RayRicefan2720]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1341111579' post='1094601']
Yes I understand what your saying. Now remember, he was stabbed twice trying to break up a fight. He escaped with minor injuries and if he was stabbed more times or had a serious injury from it, he could have ended up on IR because he decided to throw a party. He could have easily thrown out his second year in the NFL, especially if he was shot. [b]Too much risk and danger he put himself in by throwing the party and maybe next time he'll learn not to throw a party that goes to after 2 a.m.
[/b][/quote]

The party and the fact he had it till 2 am had nothing to do with the situation. The issue was WHO was there at the party. WHO he hangs out with and is around. I could throw a party till 2 am and it could be perfectly fine because the people I hang out with and associate with would not cause any problems and have brains. It has nothing to do with the time or the fact it was a party.

[arnie_uk]

bloody hell jo catch a grip. First you say blackmon isnt alowed out after midnight now this? wise up, hes a yound 20 something year old, they are going to enjoy their life as well as work hard for their career. Soccer players go out, rugby players, baseball players, basketball, they all go out, drink have fun, then grind when they need to. Have you never been out after 2 am?

If this happened at say 7 in the evening, what time should he go to bed at then?

"be in bed after midnight" wise up

[JO_75]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1341151652' post='1094647']
bloody hell jo catch a grip. First you say blackmon isnt alowed out after midnight now this? wise up, hes a yound 20 something year old, they are going to enjoy their life as well as work hard for their career. Soccer players go out, rugby players, baseball players, basketball, they all go out, drink have fun, then grind when they need to. Have you never been out after 2 am?

If this happened at say 7 in the evening, what time should he go to bed at then?

"be in bed after midnight" wise up
[/quote]

All I'm trying to say is look what happened, he got stabbed and was lucky to escape with minor injuries so that he doesn't hurt the 49ers team this season. If he was shot, he could have been killed or got enough damage from the shot to put himself on IR for the season and really hurt the 49ers team this season. I don't care what he does or whatever, the fact was that he was stabbed and could have been shot and put the team in jeopardy is my problem and main point.

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1341151652' post='1094647']
bloody hell jo catch a grip. First you say blackmon isnt alowed out after midnight now this? wise up, hes a yound 20 something year old, they are going to enjoy their life as well as work hard for their career. Soccer players go out, rugby players, baseball players, basketball, they all go out, drink have fun, then grind when they need to. Have you never been out after 2 am?

If this happened at say 7 in the evening, what time should he go to bed at then?

"be in bed after midnight" wise up
[/quote]

I just disagree. These guys are athletes and as such, their very job performance is intricately linked to the condition of their bodies. If you work in an office and party until 2 am you might not be as mentally sharp, but I'll bet you can still do your job effectively. If they abuse their bodies, be it lack of sleep, an over indulgence in alcohol, etc. then they cannot perform their job at any level of effectiveness. And they get paid very good money for those jobs. Plus, it is even worse with TC right around the corner. Coming into TC not being in peak form only leads to injuries.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='ravensdfan' timestamp='1341156970' post='1094668']


I just disagree. These guys are athletes and as such, their very job performance is intricately linked to the condition of their bodies. If you work in an office and party until 2 am you might not be as mentally sharp, but I'll bet you can still do your job effectively. If they abuse their bodies, be it lack of sleep, an over indulgence in alcohol, etc. then they cannot perform their job at any level of effectiveness. And they get paid very good money for those jobs. Plus, it is even worse with TC right around the corner. Coming into TC not being in peak form only leads to injuries.
[/quote]he doesn't need to be up at 9am. As long as he gets his training in the next day he can have a late night and lay on.

The fact its was after midnight has nothing to do with anything

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1341157084' post='1094670']
he doesn't need to be up at 9am. As long as he gets his training in the next day he can have a late night and lay on.

The fact its was after midnight has nothing to do with anything
[/quote]

Hey I've done my share of 2 am parties when I've had off the next day. Yeah, I'll sleep in but I'm wrecked. This is a party where the alcohol was flowing freely enough that this crap happened in the first place. No one is saying these guys can't indulge or throw a party but everything about this, from the time, the amount consumed, the company invited, shows judgement issues. It isn't JUST about the company, though that is a big part.

Somehow, I don't think our Harbaugh would tolerate any part of this behavior. I've been wrong before but that is my take on it.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='ravensdfan' timestamp='1341157418' post='1094673']
Hey I've done my share of 2 am parties when I've had off the next day. Yeah, I'll sleep in but I'm wrecked. This is a party where the alcohol was flowing freely enough that this crap happened in the first place. No one is saying these guys can't indulge or throw a party but everything about this, from the time, the amount consumed, the company invited, shows judgement issues. It isn't JUST about the company, though that is a big part.

Somehow, I don't think our Harbaugh would tolerate any part of this behavior. I've been wrong before but that is my take on it.
[/quote]your missing my whole point here, jo said he shouldnt be out past midnight or something along those lines... these athletes are people too, they have lives, they cant have a 10pm curfew. Nights before games etc, yea, but in july, catch a grip

[ghost1986]

I think he should have the right to party after midnight or whenever, but he definitely needs to choose his friends wiser. I'm up around 3AM sometimes hanging out with friends and we never got in trouble because we're calm people. This kid has all kinds of potential, but he needs to realize what he has before it's too late.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='ghost1986' timestamp='1341160970' post='1094686']
I think he should have the right to party after midnight or whenever, but he definitely needs to choose his friends wiser. I'm up around 3AM sometimes hanging out with friends and we never got in trouble because we're calm people. This kid has all kinds of potential, but he needs to realize what he has before it's too late.
[/quote]exactly, this could have happened at mid day, mid night anytime.

[JO_75]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1341162248' post='1094694']
exactly, this could have happened at mid day, mid night anytime.
[/quote]

True, anything does happen at anytime but when you look at the history of NFL players having a DUI or having some kind of issue, it's always after midnight and until that changes these players just won't understand that nothing good happens after midnight.

I hate it for Aldon, I thought he had a great season and will be a great player but just hate it that he is putting himself in risks like this.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1341165059' post='1094704']


True, anything does happen at anytime but when you look at the history of NFL players having a DUI or having some kind of issue, it's always after midnight and until that changes these players just won't understand that nothing good happens after midnight.

I hate it for Aldon, I thought he had a great season and will be a great player but just hate it that he is putting himself in risks like this.
[/quote]again he didn't put himself at any extra risk being out after 12

[JO_75]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1341165418' post='1094705']
again he didn't put himself at any extra risk being out after 12
[/quote]

He was stabbed, there were guns which meant he could have been shot which is my point. I'm not going to argue about the whole being out past midnight because your right he can do whatever, but he did put himself at risk when he got stabbed and was lucky he wasn't shot. That's all I'm saying, that's the risk I'm talking about. If he would have been stabbed worse or shot, bye bye 2012 season and hello IR.

[arnie_uk]

No thats not all your saying.. you said and i quote "actually be in bed after midnight". You said the same thing abut blackmon. Im not arguing he was an idiot for the compay he keeps and all that, but like i said when you said blackmon shouldnt be out after midnight, thats bloody absurd! simple as, no ifs buts about it, no matter what job you have, athlete, police, office work, you cant stop living your life and be in bed before midnight for fear of something happening...

Crimes, be it stabbings, fights, shootings, robberies, rape etc etc happens at every time off the day. Ill ask you again, if this happened at 7 in the evening would you be saying he has to be home and doors locked by 6?

Wise up, trying to say athletes should be in bed/home by midnight...

[JO_75]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1341166310' post='1094707']
No thats not all your saying.. you said and i quote "actually be in bed after midnight". You said the same thing abut blackmon. Im not arguing he was an idiot for the compay he keeps and all that, but like i said when you said blackmon shouldnt be out after midnight, thats bloody absurd! simple as, no ifs buts about it, no matter what job you have, athlete, police, office work, you cant stop living your life and be in bed before midnight for fear of something happening...

Crimes, be it stabbings, fights, shootings, robberies, rape etc etc happens at every time off the day. Ill ask you again, if this happened at 7 in the evening would you be saying he has to be home and doors locked by 6?

Wise up, trying to say athletes should be in bed/home by midnight...
[/quote]

Ok, I told you that you were right, I was trying to move on to the Football aspect of it where if he was seriously hurt he could easily kiss the 2012 Season good-bye and be right on IR. I understand what your saying, he can do whatever he wants, that's fine but he should be thinking about his football team and should be thinking about how he can help the 49ers get to the Super Bowl.

[The Raven]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1341167591' post='1094709']
Ok, I told you that you were right, I was trying to move on to the Football aspect of it where if he was seriously hurt he could easily kiss the 2012 Season good-bye and be right on IR.[b] I understand what your saying, he can do whatever he wants, that's fine but he should be thinking about his football team and should be thinking about how he can help the 49ers get to the Super Bowl.[/b]
[/quote]

And by staying out past midnight he must not care about that. Is that what you're saying? Thats just asinine! I think Tandon Doss broke up a fight before a game this past season, I guess he should not be a good person and just let the guy get robbed or beaten or killed. After all, a Super Bowl win is more important than someone's life, right?

First, he's not doing any wrong by being out past midnight, drinking or not. He's human. It's July. The Super Bowl is not tommorow. He's allowed to have fun.

Second, he was breaking up a fight. He was doing a good deed. He was being a good person. What is so wrong about that?

[Hjulmann]

Seriously who are these people... Nothing less macho than a person with a weapon in a fight.. What a sissy. Good to hear he's okay, and hopefully the moron who stabbed him has been or will be arrested.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1341168760' post='1094710']


And by staying out past midnight he must not care about that. Is that what you're saying? Thats just asinine! I think Tandon Doss broke up a fight before a game this past season, I guess he should not be a good person and just let the guy get robbed or beaten or killed. After all, a Super Bowl win is more important than someone's life, right?

First, he's not doing any wrong by being out past midnight, drinking or not. He's human. It's July. The Super Bowl is not tommorow. He's allowed to have fun.

Second, he was breaking up a fight. He was doing a good deed. He was being a good person. What is so wrong about that?
[/quote]thank you.

[Purple Nurple]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1341165059' post='1094704']


True, anything does happen at anytime but when you look at the history of NFL players having a DUI or having some kind of issue, it's always after midnight and until that changes these players just won't understand that nothing good happens after midnight.
[/quote]

All sorts of good things happen after midnight!

[gabefergy]

[quote name='Purple Nurple' timestamp='1341172954' post='1094720']


All sorts of good things happen after midnight!
[/quote]
The best kinds of things usually.

[JO_75]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1341168760' post='1094710']
And by staying out past midnight he must not care about that. Is that what you're saying? Thats just asinine! I think Tandon Doss broke up a fight before a game this past season, I guess he should not be a good person and just let the guy get robbed or beaten or killed. After all, a Super Bowl win is more important than someone's life, right?

First, he's not doing any wrong by being out past midnight, drinking or not. He's human. It's July. The Super Bowl is not tommorow. He's allowed to have fun.

Second, he was breaking up a fight. He was doing a good deed. He was being a good person. What is so wrong about that?
[/quote]

You and Arnie are missing the point. I'm past the whole he's doing something bad being out past midnight, cause he can do whatever. I'm now saying that he put himself and the 49ers at risk being stabbed. Like I said, if he was shot or had major injuries, good bye 2012 season. Then it would be a whole season of "What If" on IR, "If I didn't throw the party, I would be playing right now" or "I would be out there helping the 49ers win games."

[raybaby]

Lol smh.