ESPN Fantasy Football 2012

[Gordo52]

QB league....we start 2....who has the best trio? Rank top 3.

1. Rodgers,Roethlisburger,RG3
2. Brees,Newton,Luck
3. Stafford,Romo,Wilson
4. Brady,E. Manning,Fitzpatrick
5. P.Manning,Flacco,Cutler
6. Vick,Rivers,Freeman
7. Ryan,Schaub,Bradford

[BMOREHAWAII]

[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1346384079' post='1134747']
QB league....we start 2....who has the best trio? Rank top 3.

1. Rodgers,Roethlisburger,RG3
2. Brees,Newton,Luck
3. Stafford,Romo,Wilson
4. Brady,E. Manning,Fitzpatrick
5. P.Manning,Flacco,Cutler
6. Vick,Rivers,Freeman
7. Ryan,Schaub,Bradford
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To me #2 is the clear cut winner with #4 coming in 2nd.. IMO

[Sizzlebshu]

[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1346384079' post='1134747']
QB league....we start 2....who has the best trio? Rank top 3.

1. Rodgers,Roethlisburger,RG3
2. Brees,Newton,Luck
3. Stafford,Romo,Wilson
4. Brady,E. Manning,Fitzpatrick
5. P.Manning,Flacco,Cutler
6. Vick,Rivers,Freeman
7. Ryan,Schaub,Bradford
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2
4
3
6 - assuming rushing tds outweigh passing tds
1
7
5

[Gordo52]

I say #1 cuz that's mine lol.
now try ranking them without being biased about big Ben lmao

[Sizzlebshu]

i disagree about Ben. hayley is running a 60% run offense (according to reports). Not to mention that o line is atrocious. I cant see Ben having a great year.

[PuRock]

[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1346392436' post='1134858']
I say #1 cuz that's mine lol.
now try ranking them without being biased about big Ben lmao
[/quote]

I'm in agreeance with Sizzle and BMore. #2 is the best. They have two top QBs from the elite class. But #4 is a strong showing as well.

You have Rodgers which will help. But I really believe this is the year Ben just breaks down. RG3 is still just a prospective pick.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1346384079' post='1134747']
QB league....we start 2....who has the best trio? Rank top 3.

1. Rodgers,Roethlisburger,RG3
2. Brees,Newton,Luck
3. Stafford,Romo,Wilson
4. Brady,E. Manning,Fitzpatrick
5. P.Manning,Flacco,Cutler
6. Vick,Rivers,Freeman
7. Ryan,Schaub,Bradford
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2,4,6

[Dubs]

Are pass Tds 4 or 6 points as that might change my ranking, but I would lean: 2, 4, 3

[Gordo52]

Just did a random draft in a 10 team espn standard league yesterday. Hows my team look? I love it.

Rivers
Rice
McFadden
Nicks
Nelson
Hernandez
Martin
Ravens
Jankokowski
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Romo
Heyward-Bey
Pettigrew
Mannigham
Mendenhall
Hankerson
Tolbert

[gabefergy]

So how bout that Michael Turner
...

[Sizzlebshu]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1347290979' post='1144565']
So how bout that Michael Turner
...
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one game, the first of the season no less. Also dont act like lloyd did so much better. Lloyd's statline was only 3 points better in standard leagues.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='Sizzlebshu' timestamp='1347292899' post='1144583']
one game, the first of the season no less. Also dont act like lloyd did so much better. Lloyd's statline was only 3 points better in standard leagues.
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Yeah but he was a frequent target, in fact he led the team in targerts and had it not been for a slight mix-up with Brady he would have had a 50 yard TD as well. Turner was a non-factor in a blow-out game. In reality he looked awful. Rodgers looked like the better rusher and he was a threat in the passing game.

[Ed_Reed20]

I didn't like Turner coming into this season. It was only one game but I won't be surprised if he falls off a cliff this year.

[Sizzlebshu]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1347293414' post='1144589']
Yeah but he was a frequent target, in fact he led the team in targerts and had it not been for a slight mix-up with Brady he would have had a 50 yard TD as well. Turner was a non-factor in a blow-out game. In reality he looked awful. Rodgers looked like the better rusher and he was a threat in the passing game.
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Again what Im refering to has nothing to do with how good Turner is or how good Lloyd will be. I just dont think its the right time to brag yet. For all we know this could have been an outlier week for both of them. Turner could go on to be a top 10 rusher, lloyd could get 3 targets a game only convert 1-2. Hell I mean if we use your sample size then the Jets were the best offense in the league. Im just sayin its way too early for that man besides it was the titans after all. KC is at least known to be able to stop the run (altho they were clearly short on men this week). Give it about 5 games and lets see how it plays out.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='Sizzlebshu' timestamp='1347312285' post='1144828']
Again what Im refering to has nothing to do with how good Turner is or how good Lloyd will be. I just dont think its the right time to brag yet. For all we know this could have been an outlier week for both of them. Turner could go on to be a top 10 rusher, lloyd could get 3 targets a game only convert 1-2. Hell I mean if we use your sample size then the Jets were the best offense in the league. Im just sayin its way too early for that man besides it was the titans after all. KC is at least known to be able to stop the run (altho they were clearly short on men this week). Give it about 5 games and lets see how it plays out.
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Sure, its a small sample size but its pretty telling. The Titans actually have a pretty good secondary. Its ok though, you dont have to let the facts get in the way of your argument.

[Mt. Crushmore]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1347290979' post='1144565']
So how bout that Michael Turner
...
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At least I have Jaquizz as a backup.

[Gordo52]

Even though I have Rivers and Gates still playing in this Ravens league, I'm rooting against them. I'm facing them in my primary league and that one comes first. lol

[gabefergy]

Bad week in fantasy for me, but going forward i should be in good shape.

[Gordo52]

Yeah, so with 2:00 left in the game I'm losing by 2 points...Tucker so far has outscored Rivers. lol damn oh well smh

[Sizzlebshu]

Only league I lost in this week. Won my week 1 in all the others in convincing fashion. Nothing to worry about here though, its not like dmc will miss out on the end zone and vick will throw 4 picks again.

[BMOREHAWAII]

[quote name='Sizzlebshu' timestamp='1347362326' post='1147676']
Only league I lost in this week. Won my week 1 in all the others in convincing fashion. Nothing to worry about here though, its not like dmc will miss out on the end zone and vick will throw 4 picks again.
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DMC will get hurt week 2.......................
JK. You will lose against me though sorry.

[Sizzlebshu]

[quote name='BMOREHAWAII' timestamp='1347523536' post='1149581']
DMC will get hurt week 2.......................
JK. You will lose against me though sorry.
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I get ATD this week in the espn league, I am projected to win by 54 xD. Two weeks in a row I get to beatdown on him lol

[gabefergy]

At least Michael Turner got a TD this week. He celebrated like it would be his last one too!

[Sizzlebshu]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1348004729' post='1158163']
At least Michael Turner got a TD this week. He celebrated like it would be his last one too!
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So how bout that Brandon Lloyd lol jk obv. Anyway it wouldnt surprise me if he got 10 tds this year just from goal line work, think Willis Mcgahee and Peyton Manning style work load. Lloyd didnt have a bad day, but he is definitley no randy moss.

As for Lloyd, 8 receptions for 60 yards isnt bad...in ppr. Factor in that he probably got half of those after Hernandez went down and you see my problem with him. Betting on targets and long tds is never as consistent as carries and goal line work. As bad as Turner may be this year, if he gets 8 tds, he will probably be better than lloyd on a per week basis.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='Sizzlebshu' timestamp='1348009990' post='1158245']

So how bout that Brandon Lloyd lol jk obv. Anyway it wouldnt surprise me if he got 10 tds this year just from goal line work, think Willis Mcgahee and Peyton Manning style work load. Lloyd didnt have a bad day, but he is definitley no randy moss.

As for Lloyd, 8 receptions for 60 yards isnt bad...in ppr. Factor in that he probably got half of those after Hernandez went down and you see my problem with him. Betting on targets and long tds is never as consistent as carries and goal line work. As bad as Turner may be this year, if he gets 8 tds, he will probably be better than lloyd on a per week basis.
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Lloyd is getting more targets than anyone else on the Pats...even before Hernandez got hurt.

The bigger thing is Turner sucks. He is just awful and now he is going to have to deal with whatever consequences from his idiotic DUI.

Lloyd outproduce him this year.

[Sizzlebshu]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1348011135' post='1158262']
Lloyd is getting more targets than anyone else on the Pats...even before Hernandez got hurt.

The bigger thing is Turner sucks. He is just awful and now he is going to have to deal with whatever consequences from his idiotic DUI.

Lloyd outproduce him this year.
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Dont care if Lloyd out produces him for the whole year but if Turner produces more than Lloyd does in 7 out of 13 games (regular season for fantasy purposes) than Turner was the better player to own. So far it is 1-1

[gabefergy]

[quote name='Sizzlebshu' timestamp='1348012215' post='1158277']

Dont care if Lloyd out produces him for the whole year but if Turner produces more than Lloyd does in 7 out of 13 games (regular season for fantasy purposes) than Turner was the better player to own. So far it is 1-1
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Thats not true though. I dont want a player who lays an egg every other week. 8-10 pts per week is better than 3 one week and 15 the next.

[Sizzlebshu]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1348017457' post='1158331']
Thats not true though. I dont want a player who lays an egg every other week. 8-10 pts per week is better than 3 one week and 15 the next.
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More like 5-6 per week which is a minimal difference to the 3. Remember this isn't ppr.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='Sizzlebshu' timestamp='1348020015' post='1158365']
More like 5-6 per week which is a minimal difference to the 3. Remember this isn't ppr.
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It doesnt matter whether its PPR. Lloyd will get TDs in that offense and he is consistently seeing targets, you cant disvalue the fact that he is by far Tom Brady's favorite target so far. My point is that season totals do matter and that consistency has value over the occassional TD. Then there is the fact that Turner sucks. He got stonewalled twice at the goal line before finally getting it in and he didnt have one long run until the end of the game. His YPC is abysmal and he doesnt catch the ball. His only value is in goal line carries and last night he wasnt even given the ball after he was atrocious on the first drive.

By the way, Reggie Bush and CJ Spiller are working our just fine for me so I wouldnt even be starting Turner.

[BMOREHAWAII]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1348011135' post='1158262']
Lloyd is getting more targets than anyone else on the Pats...even before Hernandez got hurt.

The bigger thing is Turner sucks. He is just awful and now he is going to have to deal with whatever consequences from his idiotic DUI.

Lloyd outproduce him this year.
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It's great that Lloyd gets more targets than anyone else, BAD that he cant haul more than half of them in.