Ravens 2012 Offense

[Purple_ICE 81]

In my opinion I think we need to desperately revamp our Passing game this offseason and get it ready for the 2012 season. Everyone knows we run, run, run, run the ball to Ray Rice and the texans and patriots knew that in the playoffs and they shut Rice out forcing Flacco to throw and he did well. And thats my point I think its time for Cam to give Flacco the keys to this offense.

I think Flacco could be a 4000 yard thrower, I think as each offseason came Flacco tried to vouch for himself that he is good-last year he said "he thinks he is pretty damn good" and just recently he said he thought he was " the best Qb".Flacco is trying to say "im ready to throw the freaking ball Cam!". And just frankly Im tired of Flacco being considered average, I think its time to just throw the damn chips down and let the guy throw and throw alot, if he averages 4 picks a game then we will know, but I dont think that will happen.

Last year Flacco finished with 3610yds 20tds and 12 ints-not too bad but at the same extent I think he could do more just due to the fact that we are such a run first team. Now you might be thinking "if it aint broke dont fix it, running the ball wins games" well think about it Rice finished with a career year then got shut out in the playoffs. Aginst the texans he ran 21 times for 60 yards, against the Pats he ran 21 times for 67 yards 0 Tds. These were after he ran for a career high 1300+yds on the regular season.

Teams knew we were going to run the ball in the playoffs, I dont think it was top secret information. And teams shutdown our running game. Thats why I think we need to switch to a heavy pass attack to make our run offense even more effective. cam is so conservative and runs the ball all day and is scared to throw the ball, well unless he thinks Flacco sucks then I think we need to let Flacco run this offense like a pro. Let flacco run the hurry up NOT YOU CAM, let flacco call audibles NOT YOU CAM. Lets taylor this offense to Flacco's needs and make him comfortable because last time I checked this is a QB driven passing league.

I thinks its time we go pass heavy allowing for a more elite Joe Flacco mabey a 4100 yd 25 td 15 Int year and still allow for rice to rack up the yards and tds too, but I just think until we turn pass happy Flacco will be considered average and our offense will remain the mediocre scheme that most analyst deem it to be. I thik Flacco could be good, we just have to trust in him and Cam cant do that for some reason, Cam calls the plays for him during the hurry up, Cam runs the ball every down and just seems to think Flacco will INT on every throw. Im hoping Cam gets the boot this offseason so we can truely see Flacco develop into the player he thinks he could be.

[Purple_ICE 81]

My Offensive Depth Chart-
QB-Joe Flacco
RB-Ray Rice
FB-Diesel Leach
WR- Anquan Boldin
WR- Torrey Smith
WR- Jacoby Jones
LT-BigMac
LG-Osmele
C-Birk/Gradkowski
RG-Yanda
RT-Oher

[dirtybird10]

Did I miss something? RG- Reid? What happened to Yanda?

[Purple_ICE 81]

[quote name='dirtybird10' timestamp='1336588091' post='1075127']
Did I miss something? RG- Reid? What happened to Yanda?
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hahaa yea my brains fried I worked a long night I knew I missed someone thanks

[ravensfan520]

[quote name='Purple_ICE 81' timestamp='1336587867' post='1075122']
My Offensive Depth Chart-
QB-Joe Flacco
RB-Ray Rice
FB-Diesel Leach
WR- Anquan Boldin
WR- Torrey Smith
WR- Jacoby Jones
LT-BigMac
LG-Osmele
C-Birk/Gradkowski
RG-Yanda
RT-Oher
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Yanda's at guard and I have a feeling that in the future Reid will take over RT and they will move Oher back to the left next to Osmele.

[Purple_ICE 81]

[quote name='ravensfan520' timestamp='1336588341' post='1075133']
Yanda's at guard and I have a feeling that in the future Reid will take over RT and they will move Oher back to the left next to Osmele.
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I KNOW haha I forgot about him with all the acquisitions of OLINE in the draft. I changed it just refresh the page

[dirtybird10]

[quote name='Purple_ICE 81' timestamp='1336588260' post='1075131']
hahaa yea my brains fried I worked a long night I knew I missed someone thanks
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LOL I thought I missed something in your write up. Its cool, just confused me for a second.

[berad]

Our OL was and might still be the biggest issue of our offense - they got absolutely whooped in both playoff games. I hope the new additions, another offseason together, McKinnie dropping weight, and Matt Birk healing up keep that from happening again.

I like the idea of opening up the passing game more. We saw it this season with more deep shots downfield. Maybe it was just more noticeable because we have Torrey Smith striding up and down but I thought we attempted the bomb a lot more often. Maybe that happens even more with Jones, who knows?

The running game stagnated in the playoffs but you can't abandon it. We're a running team, that's why we signed Leach. Still, the inability to score in the Texans game at the goal-line really irked me.

[Kinda_Dante]

I don't agree so much that we need to become pass first but i do think that we do need to let Flacco just control the offense more and let him audible and run the hurry up. I wouldn't have a problem if we did line up for runs on 1st and 2nd as we are use to doing and just Letting Flacco scan the defense and calling an audible if he doesn't like what he sees.

[da#1ravensfan]

I hope Jim Caldwell can convince Cam to let Flacco take control of the offense. Going into Flacco's fifth year he knows the offense like the back of his hand. Flacco probably is teaching Caldwell the offense because Caldwell never been in this system.

[cursona pirate]

The offense system will be as good as Cam let's it be. If he gives Flacco more control and is allowed to audible then we can pretty good.
However as we have seen this never happens. Cam Cameron has called some good and some bad games in the last couple years. The 2nd biggest thing that affects the offense is the Oline. Can they hold out? They were average all year and not too good during the playoffs. We can not allow for Flacco to get hit like he does, sometimes I worry about him getting injured. The 3rd biggest thing is that the WR have to get separation (which improved last season) and when they are open they need to catch that ball. What were the Ravens last year in the number of dropped balls like #3? These are the main keys to offensive success besides running the ball which we are pretty good at. We need to pass the ball though too.

[Gordo52]

I think this offseason Torrey developes alot, and gets better at route running and improves his release. I think we'll use Jones like we used Torrey last year. Throw him a bunch of bombs and just pray he can grab it and hold on lol. I really want to see a lot of LaQuan Williams this year....& Doss! It would be cool if we ran some 4 WR sets sometimes in the shotgun and let Joe go to work. Thats where I believe he excels the most....

I also think that after next season Torrey will become our #1 WR.

[Purple_ICE 81]

[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1336596447' post='1075239']
I think this offseason Torrey developes alot, and gets better at route running and improves his release. I think we'll use Jones like we used Torrey last year. Throw him a bunch of bombs and just pray he can grab it and hold on lol. I really want to see a lot of LaQuan Williams this year....& Doss! It would be cool if we ran some 4 WR sets sometimes in the shotgun and let Joe go to work. Thats where I believe he excels the most....

I also think that after next season Torrey will become our #1 WR.
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Yea I could see Torrey becoming more elite by year 3. I think this year his routes will get better along with his hands. By year 3 he will be a 1000 yard receiver no problem if not this year.

[JayDaRavensFan]

I don't think we need to throw more just be more efficient at it. At one point last season Flacco was on pace to set the record for pass attempt but had his lowest completion pct ever. If we truly did upgrade his protection this offseason and with all his main targets returning I expect Flacco to have a great year. Especially with Torrey developing more coming off a great rookie season and Dickson and Pitta also improving upon there first year with considerable playing time.

[usmccharles]

While i agree that Joe needs control of the offense, i dont think that means we need to pass more. It also depends how games are going: if we are up two touchdowns we dont need to air it out near as much but still take a jab at it. One thing i really would like to see is after we get a turn over on defense, first play have the offense just go for a bomb, its basically a free play and if we connect its such a dagger in the heart. I would love to see Joe throw for 4000 yards and i think this is the year he does it with torrey and jones on the outside and Q in the slot.

As far as the run game, we have to stick with it because it opens the run game. Rice may not have put up outstanding numbers in the playoffs, but if hes averaging 3.5 yards a carry...whats 3.5 x3? First down. If rice doesnt see the ball 15 times a game we are doing something wrong, i think he has another 1200+ season and 500 recieving.

[Alexir]

Maybe it's just me but I feel KO will be more of a project and that Gino will start at Lg for season before taking center next season

[AsianRice]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1336588920' post='1075145']
Our OL was and might still be the biggest issue of our offense - they got absolutely whooped in both playoff games. I hope the new additions, another offseason together, McKinnie dropping weight, and Matt Birk healing up keep that from happening again.

I like the idea of opening up the passing game more. We saw it this season with more deep shots downfield. Maybe it was just more noticeable because we have Torrey Smith striding up and down but I thought we attempted the bomb a lot more often. Maybe that happens even more with Jones, who knows?

The running game stagnated in the playoffs but you can't abandon it. We're a running team, that's why we signed Leach. Still, the [b]inability to score in the Texans game at the goal-line[/b] really irked me.
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I think Bernard Pierce will plow through 2yrd line easily; he will bring back the real running game like we're used to have with Jamal Lewis: strong and powerful running game.

[mrwideout]

[quote name='Kinda_Dante' timestamp='1336591275' post='1075185']
I don't agree so much that we need to become pass first but i do think that we do need to let Flacco just control the offense more and let him audible and run the hurry up. I wouldn't have a problem if we did line up for runs on 1st and 2nd as we are use to doing and just Letting Flacco scan the defense and calling an audible if he doesn't like what he sees.
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I think the problem is the playcall usually comes in late. Flacco has barely enough time to get the play off, alot of times.

[SideStep77]

Flacco only had Boldin as his true veteran receiver Torrey, Pitta, and Dickson didn't have much under their belts. Now with a full offseason and a full season I think Joe has developed with his receivers. The Flacco to Pitta play will be a common one this year I believe.

[Blex64]

[quote name='SideStep77' timestamp='1336668951' post='1075708']
Flacco only had Boldin as his true veteran receiver Torrey, Pitta, and Dickson didn't have much under their belts. Now with a full offseason and a full season I think Joe has developed with his receivers. The Flacco to Pitta play will be a common one this year I believe.
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Not if Dickson still gets the starting spot it won't.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Blex64' timestamp='1336670035' post='1075713']
Not if Dickson still gets the starting spot it won't.
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I think Dickson's run-blocking is what will keep him a starter. Still, Pitta needs to see more targets.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1336672125' post='1075739']
I think Dickson's run-blocking is what will keep him a starter. Still, Pitta needs to see more targets.
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According to PFF, Dickson was pretty bad at blocking as well. I agree that Pitta needs to see more action in the passing game though. Dickson still has potential but he needs to get better all around.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1336672492' post='1075743']
According to PFF, Dickson was pretty bad at blocking as well. I agree that Pitta needs to see more action in the passing game though. Dickson still has potential but he needs to get better all around.
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That's not surprising. Was Pitta graded significantly worse as a blocker?

[gabefergy]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1336672922' post='1075752']
That's not surprising. Was Pitta graded significantly worse as a blocker?
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I'm not sure about his blocking, but he did grade well as a pass catcher, which is to expected since he didnt drop a single ball. I'm just going off their draft grades because I am too cheap to pay for their full service.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1336673829' post='1075762']
I'm not sure about his blocking, but he did grade well as a pass catcher, which is to expected since he didnt drop a single ball. I'm just going off their draft grades because I am too cheap to pay for their full service.
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I read the same article. Even with Dickson catching 14 more passes than Pitta, he only had 2 more first down grabs than Dennis. Pretty telling.

[Suggs Package]

They both suck as run blocking, but I do know that Dickson was graded as one of the top pass blocking Tight Ends in the NFL. Pitta is a much better receiver however.

[blitzking33]

I hear Burifct is doing swell in Cincy.. Well I want to see Vonta Leach punish him just like he punished Patrick Willis last year.

[izvoodoo]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1336672125' post='1075739']
I think Dickson's run-blocking is what will keep him a starter. Still, Pitta needs to see more targets.
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I don't think people realize how bad Pitta is at run blocking.

Dickson has the higher ceiling as a blocker, because he's the longer better athlete. They should both play a lot, we just need more out of Dickson.

[The Raven]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1336664102' post='1075630']
Maybe it's just me but I feel KO will be more of a project and that Gino will start at Lg for season before taking center next season
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Maybe it's just me, but I didn't think 4 year starters in the Big 12 could be considered projects, while a small school center will start. I won't rule it out, but I don't think it's likely.

[The Raven]

[quote name='izvoodoo' timestamp='1336791567' post='1076671']
I don't think people realize how bad Pitta is at run blocking.

Dickson has the higher ceiling as a blocker, because he's the [b]longer better athlete[/b]. They should both play a lot, we just need more out of Dickson.
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Except Pitta's combine beat Dickson's, and they are the same height. They're both very athletic and they have nearly the same body type.