Thoughts On Wr3

[Gordo52]

[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1336000691' post='1070322']
You know what's funny? our 4 backup WR's currently combine for 4 career receptions. Awesome.
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They are also all very young, play in a run based offense for a crazy OC, who rarely see the field lol. I think they'll be fine.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1336004001' post='1070366']
If Williams improves on his catching and route running I would love to see him be our #3.
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Just the two most important parts of being a WR...

[Gordo52]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1336006003' post='1070399']
Just the two most important parts of being a WR...
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Lol your right. But every #3 WR on our team is a project basically. If I could prefer one to step up to the plate, it would be the speedster.

[GrimCoconut]

I believe this will be our WR depth chart:

1. Torrey Smith
2. Anquan Boldin
3. Tandon Doss
4. LaQuan Williams
5. Tommy Streeter

While I do think that Williams, Streeter, and Doss will all get playing time, I think Doss gets the most out of all of them. As for Streeter receiving little snaps, I think that is wrong. He has enough time to get ready to see the field. Streeter needs to be on the phone with Joe, Torrey, and Anquan and learning from those guys. I believe he will see snaps on 3rd and Long and in the red zone. I also see him getting more snaps when we play teams with weak secondaries that have short CBs. A good example would have been New England last year. He would have been a great addition to that game.

I believe Williams receives a lot of snaps on some deep routes as well. Williams is emerging as a good special teams player and I think he is polishing up his game as well. He has problems with drops, just like Streeter. He does have an advantage of being here longer.

Doss will be used a lot on 3rd downs with Pitta to get that 1st down conversion.

[BloodRaven]

[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1336004105' post='1070367']
They are also all very young, play in a run based offense for a crazy OC, who rarely see the field lol. I think they'll be fine.
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I think we'll see more of the same. Reed is going into his 3rd season with no receptions, that's absurdly hilarious to me.

[cobrajet]

[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1336004001' post='1070366']
If Williams improves on his catching and route running I would love to see him be our #3.
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Same here, I like Williams.

[Gordo52]

[quote name='cobrajet' timestamp='1336012383' post='1070490']
Same here, I like Williams.
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I want all our guys to have success. I just want to have a more explosive offense, and I feel LaQuan has the bet chance of doing that between all our potential # 3 recievers.

[jazz1988]

[quote name='ravens rule' timestamp='1335999394' post='1070304']
A good coordinator would know how to get production from 2 pretty good TE's and also be able to use more than 2 receivers.
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Well i guess the patriots didnt have a good coordinator either because they used their two tights alot along with their two receivers while the other wideouts didnt receive much action

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='ravens rule' timestamp='1335999394' post='1070304']
A good coordinator would know how to [b]get production from 2 pretty good TE's[/b] and also be able to use more than 2 receivers.
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Actually we did get very good production out of the tight ends this year. In the past we were relying on a Todd Heap with declining athleticism and pretty much nobody else - Wilcox, Smith, Drew never did anything. This year, Dickson and Pitta combined for 94 receptions, 920 yards, and 8 TDs. In 2010 Heap had 40 receptions, 599 yards and 5 TDs and Dickson hauled in another 11 for 152 and 1 TD. If nothing else, Cam seemed to use the tight ends more this year than he has in the past. Totally agree on the lack of anything other than 2 receiver sets.

[ellicottraven]

Next year and beyond it is going to be Smith, Doss and Streeter (if he lives up to his potential). This year and till Boldin leaves, it will be Boldin, Smith and Doss.

[BenMir]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1336043932' post='1070605']
Actually we did get very good production out of the tight ends this year. In the past we were relying on a Todd Heap with declining athleticism and pretty much nobody else - Wilcox, Smith, Drew never did anything. This year, Dickson and Pitta combined for 94 receptions, 920 yards, and 8 TDs. In 2010 Heap had 40 receptions, 599 yards and 5 TDs and Dickson hauled in another 11 for 152 and 1 TD. If nothing else, Cam seemed to use the tight ends more this year than he has in the past. Totally agree on the lack of anything other than 2 receiver sets.
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Well, two combined for 920. Hernandez had more than that alone and he is basicly the Pitta (2nd TE) of NE. There is no reason our TEs won't get a good production with a QB like Joe

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='BenMir' timestamp='1336047481' post='1070617']
Well, two combined for 920. Hernandez had more than that alone and he is basicly the Pitta (2nd TE) of NE. There is no reason our TEs won't get a good production with a QB like Joe
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Difference though is New England really doesn't have a second WR after Welker - hence the failed Ochocinco debacle. So they treated their tight ends like the second and third receivers - Welker led the team in receptions, but Gronkowski was second and Hernandez 3rd, with Branch catching almost 30 fewer balls than Hernandez. We had a number 1 in Q and and number 2 in Torrey. Not to mention that team uses a LOT of 4 and 5 receiver sets and just throws more than we do, because they have no big time running back like we do.

[Hjulmann]

I'm gonna go with LaQuan. He's already proven that he can do things. David Reed is, in my eyes completely excluded. Idk about Tommy Streeter, I don't know much about him. So it's between Tandon and LaQuan

[Ed_Reed20]

Fully healthy and with a full off-season, I see Doss being the third WR. How many passes he catches is another matter.

[da#1ravensfan]

I think Doss will win it by a landslide. He is the most polished reciever behind Anquan and Torrey. Streeter is extremely raw and incosistent but i think he will be great in a few years. Williams and Reed are more of a special teams players that wont contribute much to the passing game. Doss will produce as our third receiver.

[Ravens1991]

Though I like Doss as a WR I hope a guy with more big play ability secures the #3 spot. Boldin,Pitta,Dickson are all solid intermediate targets if not better I hope another guy who can really stretch the field emerges so we have more then one deep threat. David Reed has all the ability to be a stud #3 slot WR but with that knee injury I think he is done.

[Free Agent]

[quote name='Ravens1991' timestamp='1336361761' post='1073086']
Though I like Doss as a WR I hope a guy with more big play ability secures the #3 spot. Boldin,Pitta,Dickson are all solid intermediate targets if not better I hope another guy who can really stretch the field emerges so we have more then one deep threat. David Reed has all the ability to be a stud #3 slot WR but with that knee injury I think he is done.
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I would like that too, but besides Torrey who is starting and Streeter who is raw at this point, we have no one with big play ability/deep speed to stretch the field. Id say Doss would be the best #3 option because he has good size, can run pretty good routes, and has excellent hands.

[SideStep77]

I think Doss is Boldins eventual replacement. Hopefully someone steps up like Q2 or Doss or even Streeter. Maybe Cam would actually use 3WR sets once and awhile.

[GrimCoconut]

I can't believe I am about to do this, but I don't think it is entirely Cam's fault about not using the 3 WR sets. First of all, when we had Housh, Mason and Boldin we did use the 3 WR set more than we did last year. Evans was injured most of the year. Before that, we didn't really have WRs that were worth being a #4 let alone a #3.

I think we use 3 WR sets more often this year, but I also see a lot of 2 WR 2 TE sets, too.

[Pino]

my hat's in the ring for Laquan. it was mentioned before, but he really did make some clutch catches.
i want Doss to do well, too, but i haven't seen anything from him, and that's not entirely his fault. but considering what Flacco said about him to get him drafted, "he catches everything" in a big catch radius, let's get him the ball already!

[Pino]

geez when will preseason get here?!?!

[Grapple Raven]

[i]I like LaQuan...he has proven he can perform in pressure situations, and if he hadn't gotten hurt last season I think you would have seen more out of him. [/i]

[izvoodoo]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1336415458' post='1073441']
I can't believe I am about to do this, but I don't think it is entirely Cam's fault about not using the 3 WR sets. First of all, when we had Housh, Mason and Boldin we did use the 3 WR set more than we did last year. Evans was injured most of the year. Before that, we didn't really have WRs that were worth being a #4 let alone a #3.

I think we use 3 WR sets more often this year, but I also see a lot of 2 WR 2 TE sets, too.
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I've basically said that every time the subject has been brought up. There are 5 linemen and Joe making 6, so of the other 5 slots on offense we're better off with 2 wrs 2te and Rice than 3 wrs. We can't spread that wide, because of protection issues. Basically Rice is our third receiver.

[Hardbaugh]

The problem getting more receivers involved with the gameplan is twofold. Flacco isn't quick enough through his progressions and often locks onto his primary read. Too many times the receiving corps get labeled by many in the fanbase that they can't gain seperation but the culprit is often Flacco who is either late with the ball or guilty of locking on.

Another area of improvement for him is he doesn't sell the play fake enough and he puts the ball out there as if just going through the motions. These are areas that he can improve on and he'll have to if he wants to improve the overall package and ascend to being the type of player he already states he is.

[Ravenslifer]

I'd like to see Doss get more of an opportunity. I watched him a few times when he was at I.U. and he was very impressive. LaQuan should also get some more looks as the 4th wide receiver. Streeter should be worked in at the latest by the end of the situation in redzone situations to get his feet wet. David Reed, if healthy, needs to work on his fumbling issues.

[Hardbaugh]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1336489148' post='1073938']
I'd like to see Doss get more of an opportunity. I watched him a few times when he was at I.U. and he was very impressive. LaQuan should also get some more looks as the 4th wide receiver. Streeter should be worked in at the latest by the end of the situation in redzone situations to get his feet wet. David Reed, if healthy, [u]needs to work on his fumbling issues.[/u]
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So does "the best quarterback in the NFL" but few will mention it here. Flacco ranks near the [s]top[/s] bottom of the leaderboard in fumbling.

[Yum Chickens]

Right now because of DeCosta I think it's Doss. But let's see what happens during camp! Should be really interesting

[PurpleDrink]

Truth be told......don't see our Offence getting better with Cam. As the years roll by its the same problems. Nothing changes,just the roster.

[CapoRocky]

[quote name='Pino' timestamp='1336430477' post='1073651']
my hat's in the ring for Laquan. it was mentioned before, but he really did make some clutch catches.
i want Doss to do well, too, but i haven't seen anything from him, and that's not entirely his fault. but considering what Flacco said about him to get him drafted, "he catches everything" in a big catch radius, let's get him the ball already!
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I put Williams over Doss and Reed at this point in time. A lot can change by the start of the season. It's nice to see the competition heating up.

[atlravensfan]

[quote name='PurpleDrink' timestamp='1336492427' post='1073968']
Truth be told......don't see our Offence getting better with Cam. As the years roll by its the same problems. Nothing changes,just the roster.
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As far as scheme fit goes. Honestly if streeter has a good camp I can see him being in there more then many might think. If we sign Jones I can see Reed or Williams getting the ax