Submarines Versus Airplanes Debate Thread

[cursona pirate]

The Debate thread is back and its weirder than ever. Sky verus Sea. Submarines versus Airplanes!
Who will win? We are talking about the best underwater vessels against the best Airplanes. It's an all out war.

[b][u]Rules[/u][/b]
Have a valid argument and evidence to support it. You cannot just say " Submarine because it is better".
Keep it clean
I might play devil's advocate and be neutral in the debate.

[img]http://static.bbc.co.uk/history/img/ic/640/images/resources/topics/supermarine_spitfire.jpg[/img][img]http://www.naval-history.net/PhotoxPost12SSNDreadnoughtNPDavidDowney.jpg[/img]

[Gordo52]

Airplanes because Submarines can't shoot stuff up lol.
Right?

[cursona pirate]

"In both world wars [b]submarines[/b] were equipped with anti-aircraft weapons for defending themselves while surfaced, but they made the subs slower while submerged, and enemy aircraft usually stayed out of their range while calling in a destroyer by radio. After World War 2 [b]submarines[/b] became streamlined to improve their speed"
We can improvise that we could put Anti aircraft guns on submarines.

[Purple Nurple]

Airplanes. They can destroy a submerged submarine. A submerged sub cannot shoot an airlplane. There's got to be a debate forum out there for you.

[cursona pirate]

How about the new submarines they shoot out unmaned aircraft? lol

[1/28/01]

The color white or off white? Go!

[cursona pirate]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1332689489' post='1033848']
The color white or off white? Go!
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depends what if you are color blind?

[1/28/01]

[quote name='cursona pirate' timestamp='1332690305' post='1033858']

depends what if you are color blind?
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Greyscale or not greyscale? Go

[cursona pirate]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1332690536' post='1033865']
Greyscale or not greyscale? Go
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Well are we talking about art greyscale or the science gray scale. They are completly opposite from one another.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='cursona pirate' timestamp='1332691180' post='1033872']

Well are we talking about art greyscale or the science gray scale. They are completly opposite from one another.
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You choose...

[Purple Punishment]

Subs without a doubt. They can surface and shoot the plane out of the sky then submerge deep enough to where a plane cannot hit them with anything

[Purple Nurple]

James bond submersible airplane FTW!!!

[Purple Punishment]

[quote name='Purple Nurple' timestamp='1332702226' post='1034080']
James bond submersible airplane FTW!!!
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hmmmm so which is it, a submarine or an airplane??

[Purple Nurple]

[quote name='Purple Punishment' timestamp='1332702396' post='1034085']


hmmmm so which is it, a submarine or an airplane??
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It's a double threat is what it is.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='Purple Punishment' timestamp='1332702180' post='1034079']
Subs without a doubt. They can surface and shoot the plane out of the sky then submerge deep enough to where a plane cannot hit them with anything
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If that was the case WW2's Battle of the Atlantic would have played out far differently. From 1943-45 subs were considered easy targets.

[Purple Punishment]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1332703903' post='1034105']
If that was the case WW2's Battle of the Atlantic would have played out far differently. From 1943-45 subs were considered easy targets.
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I dont think I like your tone of typing

[Bltravens]

[quote name='Purple Punishment' timestamp='1332714603' post='1034209']

I dont think I like your tone of typing [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png[/img]
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Hahah, my bad dude. History minor and I read all kinds of books on WW2.

From 1939-1942 the wolfpacks of Germany were without a doubt ravaging the North Atlantic.

[IMissMattStover]

[quote name='Purple Nurple' timestamp='1332685559' post='1033773']
Airplanes. They can destroy a submerged submarine. A submerged sub cannot shoot an airlplane. There's got to be a debate forum out there for you.
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I think if we really cared we could put anti-aircraft guns on Subs. I like subs better, not as much for combat situations, but everything else. We've seen the sky, nothing new. The depths of the oceans have so much to share. We could find cures and alll kinds of things. On top of that, I want to explore the Mariana's Trench.

[cursona pirate]

[quote name='IMissMattStover' timestamp='1332716461' post='1034253']

I think if we really cared we could put anti-aircraft guns on Subs. I like subs better, not as much for combat situations, but everything else. We've seen the sky, nothing new. The depths of the oceans have so much to share. We could find cures and alll kinds of things. On top of that, I want to explore the Mariana's Trench.
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Then it looks like your dead lol In war we don't go for the scenery.

[Purple Nurple]

[quote name='IMissMattStover' timestamp='1332716461' post='1034253']

I think if we really cared we could put anti-aircraft guns on Subs. I like subs better, not as much for combat situations, but everything else. We've seen the sky, nothing new. The depths of the oceans have so much to share. We could find cures and alll kinds of things. On top of that, I want to explore the Mariana's Trench.
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out of this thread, hippie

[cursona pirate]

[quote name='Purple Nurple' timestamp='1332725902' post='1034437']
out of this thread, [b]hippie[/b]
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1974?

[Purple Nurple]

[quote name='cursona pirate' timestamp='1332726992' post='1034442']
1974?
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damn good year.

[IMissMattStover]

[quote name='Purple Nurple' timestamp='1332725902' post='1034437']
out of this thread, hippie
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Fair enough lol. But Submarines and planes both aren't solely for combat use. Exploration is a drive in the very nature of humanity.

[cursona pirate]

[quote name='IMissMattStover' timestamp='1332775169' post='1034603']

Fair enough lol. But Submarines and planes both aren't solely for combat use. Exploration is a drive in the very nature of humanity.
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So is combat. We all wanted to punch someone before? lol

[IMissMattStover]

[quote name='cursona pirate' timestamp='1332797253' post='1035054']

So is combat. We all wanted to punch someone before? lol
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I disagree. I dont believe that combat is a part of human nature. I think it is added by nurture.

[cursona pirate]

[quote name='IMissMattStover' timestamp='1332815274' post='1035398']
I disagree. I dont believe that combat is a part of human nature. I think it is added by nurture.
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Now where getting to philiphosy or whatver lol

[Purple Nurple]

combat/killing is nature.....but thats for another of the pirates debate threads.

[IMissMattStover]

[quote name='cursona pirate' timestamp='1332887936' post='1036042']
Now where getting to philiphosy or whatver lol
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Haha we need a debate about human nature thread.

[cursona pirate]

[quote name='IMissMattStover' timestamp='1332938598' post='1036421']

Haha we need a debate about human nature thread.
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Wouldent that be to political? Would I get in trouble for making that?

[IMissMattStover]

[quote name='cursona pirate' timestamp='1332968589' post='1036890']
Wouldent that be to political? Would I get in trouble for making that?
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It doesnt have to be political. Its just about what things are inherently and universally human, and what is a social or natural construct.