Lee Evans - Signed With Jags

[Gordo52]

I dont think so. The first drop he has he will get BOO'd like crazy,(same with Cundiff's first miss) Plus he's only getting older. I rather us draft a WR this year to add to the pride.

[Tank 92]

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It's safe to say we "seez em" differently.
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[Cville-Raven]

[quote name='Greatness' timestamp='1332572983' post='1033053']
Boldin did the same thing in 2010 yet people still are in a love fest with him. Don't get it. I'd even have Evans starting over Boldin. I'm paying him top WR money and he gives me 800 yards and 3 TD's? lolwut? Now before everyone cries foul, I will say it has a lot to do with scheme, but even still.. his numbers should be better than that.
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I honestly think Smith should be given a shot at #1 next season especially if he can improve his catching technique. In all honesty Boldin is nothing more than a #2 at this point, he cant get seperation. Boldin also dropped as many passes as Smith. I just dont think he's the future of this team. Smith has the athleticism, leaping ability, and speed to make him a #1. Now obviously he needs to improve his catching, but he has more reward than Boldin does going down the line; not to mention he burned people with a sports hernia.

...... just my 2cents

[MLGWL20]

[quote name='Cville-Raven' timestamp='1332599863' post='1033132']

I honestly think Smith should be given a shot at #1 next season especially if he can improve his catching technique. In all honesty Boldin is nothing more than a #2 at this point, he cant get seperation. Boldin also dropped as many passes as Smith. I just dont think he's the future of this team. Smith has the athleticism, leaping ability, and speed to make him a #1. Now obviously he needs to improve his catching, but he has more reward than Boldin does going down the line; not to mention he burned people with a sports hernia.

...... just my 2cents
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Boldin was never a #1 guy, what he was was the best #2 in the game. He was on pace to be one of the best 2nd options in history but Cam doesn't know how to run a functional offence. Now he's an underproducing, underutilized, overpaid #1 who looks like he's on the back end of his career. But I'm 100% positive that if he went to another team with a decent #1 and a compitent coordinator who used him right, he'd look like he did 4 years ago.

Cam needs to watch some tape of how he and Fitz were used together in AZ and do the same type of things here with Q and Torrey.

[Cville-Raven]

[quote name='MLGWL20' timestamp='1332601492' post='1033143']
Boldin was never a #1 guy, what he was was the best #2 in the game. He was on pace to be one of the best 2nd options in history but Cam doesn't know how to run a functional offence. Now he's an underproducing, underutilized, overpaid #1 who looks like he's on the back end of his career. But I'm 100% positive that if he went to another team with a decent #1 and a compitent coordinator who used him right, he'd look like he did 4 years ago.

Cam needs to watch some tape of how he and Fitz were used together in AZ and do the same type of things here with Q and Torrey.
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yup, agree

[Greatness]

[quote name='Cville-Raven' timestamp='1332599863' post='1033132']
I honestly think Smith should be given a shot at #1 next season especially if he can improve his catching technique.[b] In all honesty Boldin is nothing more than a #2 at this point,[/b] he cant get seperation. Boldin also dropped as many passes as Smith. I just dont think he's the future of this team. Smith has the athleticism, leaping ability, and speed to make him a #1. Now obviously he needs to improve his catching, but he has more reward than Boldin does going down the line; not to mention he burned people with a sports hernia.

...... just my 2cents
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That's the problem. Boldin was [b]always[/b] a number 2. I don't see how anyone thought he was a number one ever. Even though he had a beast mode 2010, I saw Mason as the number 1. I'll be surprised if Boldin is on the team at his price unless he goes super hard this year. But we still need to bring Evans back. People have selective memory on a lot of things.

Two scenarios

Hill/Smith/Boldin/Doss

Evans/Smith/Doss/Boldin

I still believe in Tandon Doss!

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='Cville-Raven' timestamp='1332599863' post='1033132']
I honestly think[b] Smith should be given a shot at #1 next season[/b] especially if he can improve his catching technique. In all honesty Boldin is nothing more than a #2 at this point, he cant get seperation. Boldin also dropped as many passes as Smith. I just dont think he's the future of this team. Smith has the athleticism, leaping ability, and speed to make him a #1. Now obviously he needs to improve his catching, but he has more reward than Boldin does going down the line; not to mention he burned people with a sports hernia.

...... just my 2cents
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That's not up to us. That's up to the teams defending them. For the most part, teams treated Q as the number 1 and Torrey as the number 2, and put their best corner on Q and their second best on Torrey. In the Jets game, Rex had Revis shadowing Torrey, and Q beasted. In the Texans game, Wade had JJ shadowing Torrey, and Q again beasted. But we can't control what the other team's defense decides to do - the Seahawks put their best corner on Q, and even though he's not very good, the way we were playing Q he was able to shut Q down. If we really want Torrey to supplant Q, he's going to have to come out like gangbusters next season and force other teams to consider and honor him like the number 1.

[Cville-Raven]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1332616889' post='1033353']

That's not up to us. That's up to the teams defending them. For the most part, teams treated Q as the number 1 and Torrey as the number 2, and put their best corner on Q and their second best on Torrey. In the Jets game, Rex had Revis shadowing Torrey, and Q beasted. In the Texans game, Wade had JJ shadowing Torrey, and Q again beasted. But we can't control what the other team's defense decides to do - the Seahawks put their best corner on Q, and even though he's not very good, the way we were playing Q he was able to shut Q down. If we really want Torrey to supplant Q, he's going to have to come out like gangbusters next season and force other teams to consider and honor him like the number 1.
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Eh, while I wont disagree with you, I think teams will give Smith said respect next season, since teams can put their least athletically talented corner on Q and still shut him down. He still produced more TDs than Boldin and would have probably had more if Joe didn't overthrow a lot.

[harfordravenfan]

Haven't changed my mind, I'd say definitely bring him back. He's a quality receiver with something to prove.

[tctony]

Evans didn't lose the game. Probably should've caught the ball, but dude made a good defensive play on him. If we bring him back at the vet min, I'd be for it. He was hurt all season, but when he did play he seemed to make an impact.

[Ravenslifer]

Honestly I'd rather make Tandon the 3rd wideout on the depth chart and then draft a guy like Brian Quick so we finally have a big redzone target AND the second deep threat we need to actually run the Air Coryell system effectively. I guarantee that if we draft the kind of receiver Cam wants he will see the field a lot more than our 3rd and 4th WRs did last year.

[PurpleReign92]

When Rex Ryan left us in 2009 before he left us to become the head coach of the New York Jets he did mention something about our Pass rush needing to get better!

[1/28/01]

[quote name='PurpleReign92' timestamp='1332727810' post='1034444']
When Rex Ryan left us in 2009 before he left us to become the head coach of the New York Jets he did mention something about our Pass rush needing to get better!
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I love your posts!!!

[LAST NERVE]

SHOULD'VE CAUGHT THE BAL. I THINK HE LEARNED FROM IT.

[CapoRocky]

Will someone please kill this topic?

[Ravensfan23]

I find it funny to see people label Evans a bum or say he has a losers mentality, but turn around and say we can't compete because we lost Grubbs. Now before I go in on this post, let me say I'm a Grubbs fan and would have liked to see him return.

However, channeling my inner Stephen A. Voice, Grubbs was atrocious the last 2 years in the playoffs. No game was more clear then the Pats game. I keep hearing people say Wilfork took Birk's lunch money, well that wasn't quite true. I was guilty of saying that as well until I went back and really watched the oline in that game. Wilfork dominated Birk only twice. However Grubbs was consistently dominated by Wilfork and #71 all game, in both the run and passing game. I am among the group that says we lost as a team, but you wanna place blame on individuals, Grubbs overall performance should be placed higher then Evans' drop and Cundiff's miss. Jmo.

Evans could still be a vital part of this team and I think he'll be added after the draft, unless a 1st or 2nd round WR is taken.

[CapoRocky]

I will be there booing Cundiff and Evans in Annapolis at the first training session open to the public if they resign the bum.

[ravensfan520]

[quote name='Cville-Raven' timestamp='1332599863' post='1033132']

I honestly think Smith should be given a shot at #1 next season especially if he can improve his catching technique. In all honesty Boldin is nothing more than a #2 at this point, he cant get seperation. Boldin also dropped as many passes as Smith. I just dont think he's the future of this team. Smith has the athleticism, leaping ability, and speed to make him a #1. Now obviously he needs to improve his catching, but he has more reward than Boldin does going down the line; not to mention he burned people with a sports hernia.

...... just my 2cents
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I think Boldins lack of yards has to do with our offense... and he missed the final 2 games... just for example rice is usually third or higher on catches and that has a lot to do with Flacco tends to dump off to him early when the line breaks down. We need to change our game plan and resign Evans or draft a wr or use what we got. More short yardages routes and let the wr gets yards after the catch. If you notice most of the great offenses are doing that.

[CapoRocky]

[quote name='ravensfan520' timestamp='1332782159' post='1034707']
I think Boldin lack of yards has to do with our offense... just for example rice is usually third or higher on catches and that has a lot to do with Flacco tends to dump off to him early when the line breaks down. We need to change our game plan and resign Evans draft a wr or use what we got. More short yards anklet the wr gets yards after the catch. If you notice most of the great offenses are doing that.
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I can see Torrey getting over 1,000 yards if they use him over the middle more.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='CapoRocky' timestamp='1332782840' post='1034713']

[b]I can see Torrey getting over 1,000 yards if they use him over the middle more.[/b]
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The only reason Q and Torrey didn't both get over 1000 yards is because they didn't play all 16 games. Torrey started 14 games, weeks 3-17, and Q missed week 16 and week 17. Torrey had over 900 yards, and Q had 887 yards on the season. I agree that they are both underutilized in terms of varying what they do (just imagine them if they were used properly), but they still produced decent numbers despite the fact that they were misused and each missed 2 games.

[CapoRocky]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1332784449' post='1034728']

The only reason Q and Torrey didn't both get over 1000 yards is because they didn't play all 16 games. Torrey started 14 games, weeks 3-17, and Q missed week 16 and week 17. Torrey had over 900 yards, and Q had 887 yards on the season. I agree that they are both underutilized in terms of varying what they do (just imagine them if they were used properly), but they still produced decent numbers despite the fact that they were misused and each missed 2 games.
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Let's blame that one on Cameron.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='CapoRocky' timestamp='1332785836' post='1034752']

Let's blame that one on Cameron.
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Agreed. I've said it before, but Cam is a rigid guy, and it doesn't matter what the skill set of his receivers are, he'll do what he wants with them anyway. Which is why I think a speedy guy like Torrey can and will have a lot of success in his system, but a slower guy like Q will never have much success in his system.

[frezeal33]

I feel like this would be a great idea. I don't think he's a bad receiver.
He was out for a long period of time with an injury, that's why people think he's done nothing.
I say bring Mr. Evans back, and give him a chance.

[Cjam20]

What's up fella's? Obviously I'm a first timer over here, I was a regular on the sun board but it's become ridiculously lame so I'm glad I found this site. As for bringing Lee back, I think Ozzie should stay the course and see how the draft shakes out before we make any more moves, from what I see on the F.A. market there doesn't appear to be too many viable options. If he doesn't find a WR in the draft I hope he immediately signs Evans so that he and Joe can start building some chemistry, WR isn't a position where you can grab a guy in late August and realistically expect him to produce right away Imo. I like Stephen Hill or Alshon Jeffery if either are available, although guys like Tommy Streeter, Brian Quick and Marvin McNutt will be there in later rds. I understand that Konz would be a smart pick but it's hard to get excited about using a 1st on a center unless his name is Mangold, especially since they could scoop Ben Jones, Mike Brewster or David Molk in the middle rds. Cordy Glenn or Mike Adams, Hightower would be solid value at the end of the first. I'm not sure why but I'm excited about this draft, we have a solid core and everything we add to it now is gravy...

[jimmypowder]

Don't bring back a scrub that can't hold on to a pass that would have taken us to the Super Bowl.

The first pass he drops at M&T the boo birds will be out in force. It's just not worth it.

Anyone think Derrick Mason would have dropped that pass? Not a friggin chance in hell.Yeah I'm still mad.

[The Raven]

[quote name='jimmypowder' timestamp='1333490547' post='1041353']
Don't bring back a scrub that can't hold on to a pass that would have taken us to the Super Bowl.

The first pass he drops at M&T the boo birds will be out in force. It's just not worth it.

Anyone think Derrick Mason would have dropped that pass? Not a friggin chance in hell.Yeah I'm still mad.
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In all fairness, Derrick Mason DID in fact drop a potential game winning pass in Pittsburgh a few years ago, I believe in 2009. Oh, and Boldin too dropped a TD against Pittsburgh last year in divisional week. I'm still mad too, but lets not pretend that Evans is the only Ravens wide receiver who has dropped a potential game winning pass.

[Mahatma_Sloth]

one thing is for damn sure... if he comes back he gonna work on finishing catches

[jimmypowder]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1333496084' post='1041424']
In all fairness, Derrick Mason DID in fact drop a potential game winning pass in Pittsburgh a few years ago, I believe in 2009. Oh, and Boldin too dropped a TD against Pittsburgh last year in divisional week. I'm still mad too, but lets not pretend that Evans is the only Ravens wide receiver who has dropped a potential game winning pass.
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I'm still mad and he dropped the pass that would have taken us to the Super Bowl. I don't want him,neither do his teammates though they wont admit it and DO NOT bring back Billy Cundiff .Do you want the guy who shanked a 32 yard kick that I could make on the team? There will be better alternatives to ONE YEAR I DID GOOD Billy. All other years he was a scrub.

[SideStep77]

Wait to see who we can nab during the draft, maybe bring him back on a small 1 year deal.

[GrimCoconut]

I'm surprised this thread still lives lol.

Anyway, we'll see. It depends on how the draft goes for us and who we draft and who we get as UDFAs. I would at least let him compete for a spot. I wouldn't guarantee him anything. I would give him the vet minimum and that's it.

I think Jacksonville could take him or even the Rams, though. They both need WR help and may be desperate after the draft.