Lee Evans - Signed With Jags

[Militant X 1]

i'm not against Lee coming back but i'm not gonna lie....his dropped game winning TD pass in the AFCCG that could have put us in the SB after a 11 years absence still pisses me off everytime i think about it....and even when i am not thinking about it! smh!

~Mili

[The Raven]

After the draft, and for the right price. Yes!

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1332280396' post='1029351']
Wasn't part of Jeffery's issues his ability to separate?

Either way, I'd be beyond surprised if we double up'd on WR again this draft.
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People had issue with Brandon Marshall and Boldin's separation abilities coming out of college and 4 years ago they were the hottest names on the tongues of all Ravens fans.

Jeffery does a great job of plucking the ball out of the air and making contested catches. Jeffery does a good enough job of using his big frame to get between the defender and the ball, so he'll be more then fine creating separation in the NFL.

Also Jeffery played in NFL development league of the SEC and he dominated plenty of NFL caliber DBs(expect Jenkins). So I think he'll be just fine in the NFL.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='CapoRocky' timestamp='1332257869' post='1028906']
If we do end up taking him back, then we'd look dumb unless we got him really cheap. He was scheduled to make $3M so I'd be happy if we can get him for $1M.
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Release and re-sign happens all the time. We definitely wouldnt look dumb.

[raybaby]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1332290241' post='1029528']

So I think he'll be just fine in the NFL.
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In the NFL? yes... In our offense? I would feel extremely doubtful lol

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1332289147' post='1029505']
I agree. That's why I said with or without Evans I still see us doubling up on WR in thd draft. Also that's my I put a emphasis on allowing Evans to "compete" with the younger guys.

As for the Ravens not doubling up on WRs in this draft because he said he would never sacrifice defense for offense, in that same presser he also mentioned how he wanted to supply his franchise QB with the necessary peieces to reach that elite level. Right now even with the departure of Johnson, Redding and maybe McClain our defense is well ahead of our offense.

Ozzie and Mr. B talked about being a balanced team. Getting top 10 play from both offense and defense. When Ozzie was asked about the main areas the team needed to improve, he answered offense in 2 of 3 areas and WR was one of them.

We think we have 2 pretty good WRs in Doss and Williams, but no one is 100% sure. Smith while having a great rookie season, still needs to prove himself. If any of us think that Ozzie won't hesitate to draft two WR who he thinks could help this team, just because of what 2 young guys did in the preseason or because it means not drafting a late round defense it'd be foolish think imo.

Also Boldin probably won't be back after this year and if Reed doesn't prove he can bring more to this team, he'll probably be cut this year. Laquan is one poor preseason away from being a promising udfa guy, to out of a job. So this WR Corp is far from set and we aren't quite at that one player away stage either. Because of that I see it as a strong possibility that Ozzie double dips in a deep WR pool.
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I agree on doubling up on receivers, because I think one of them will be drafted primarily as a KR/PR (crossing my fingers for Marquis Maze).

[PurpleCorsair]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1332256562' post='1028865']
Maybe for $1M, but no more... I don't see how we can really trust him at this point (health-wise or ability).
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The few catches he made were spectacular. His chemistry with Joe, though short lived, was undeniable.

[K-Dog]

I say yes he should come back. With his injury he never hit his stride last season.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='raybaby' timestamp='1332290562' post='1029532']


In the NFL? yes... In our offense? I would feel extremely doubtful lol
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Actually a guy like Jeffery is exactly what we need in this offense. He's a guy that can get open based on his size and catch radius alone. So Cam wouldn't have to be creative to get him open.

In our basic offense guys have to get open with natural talent. Smith got open with speed, Pitta got open with crafty route running and Jeffery would get open just because of size advantage.

[herostyle]

I'm so down for Evans joining the roster at the vet minimum. Evans definitely had a connection with Joe during the preseason, and I think he would've contributed throughout the regular season if he wasn't out for a number of weeks. I do agree with the member a few posts above that says we should give T.O. a tryout. While I do think he is a potential headache waiting to happen, I am extremely impressed with his season with the Cincinnati Bengals.

[ravensfan520]

[quote name='RavensWin09' timestamp='1332273332' post='1029172']

we would go to an OK receiving core to ELITE. although there are some great WR talents in this years draft, we'd be as happy as today's bronco fans to get Michael Floyd. he is in such a weird spot though. some see him in the top 7/8, some see him dropping to 19/20. i'd trade in the top 15 with no regret. i think it's worth it even it costs a few high draft picks.
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If we trade up we need lineman not receivers.

[ravensfan520]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1332280396' post='1029351']
Wasn't part of Jeffery's issues his ability to separate?

Either way, I'd be beyond surprised if we double up'd on WR again this draft.
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Streeters had the same problems... separation.

[raybaby]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1332295355' post='1029580']
Actually a guy like Jeffery is exactly what we need in this offense. He's a guy that can get open based on his size and catch radius alone. So Cam wouldn't have to be creative to get him open.

In our basic offense guys have to get open with natural talent. Smith got open with speed, Pitta got open with crafty route running and Jeffery would get open just because of size advantage.
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I don't think he would be 'open.' I think he would make [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]contested[/font][/color] catches. Honestly I'm just wary because our offense is already known for having trouble with separation. Hearing he already has those problems even if he can go up and get the ball is concerning for me. Not saying I would be 100 percent opposed to him coming here but I'd be wary. There are receivers who have the size and don't have that label.

[Ravenglenn]

No. He punched his ticket in the playoffs. He's our version of Bill Buckner.

[ravensfan520]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1332285264' post='1029429']


Just on the point of continuity, wouldn't it make more sense then to draft some younger guys that will be here a while? Lee is 31 now, and Q will be 32 in October. Just saying, this would be Joe's second year with Torrey and Tandon, and his third with Q and the tight ends - that's as long as he had Mase and Heap. Because at some point in the next 3-4 years we'll be taking about replacing Q if he's still here, and Lee would be in the same situation. The way I see it, he's got experience with his number 1 Q, his number 2 Torrey, his tight ends, and Tandon. So if we were to draft a young rookie, it wouldn't be like he'd be pushed to start anytime soon like Torrey was, but not having another veteran body in front of him may mean the rookie would get some looks and experience early. Right now we have a bunch of 22-25 year old receivers and tight ends, who in 4 years will still be in their primes. To me it just doesn't make sense to add in Lee when he'd be at best the number 3 wide receiver and we're trying to get the younger receivers more involved anyway.
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I hate to say it but in 2 to 3 years if we don't fix the OL and god forbid Flacco gets hurt... or he just fizzles out or we cant extend him and he takes the money and runs he may not be here either. So why not pick up Evans draft a wr late or sign an undrafted wr to learn under Boldin and Evans and gel with smith and Doss and move on from there. Wr is not our biggest weakness its the OL. If we are going to run all those deep routes we want we have to have a line to keep Flacco upright.

[Radinho84]

this should be decided after the draft. if we are able to get a top talent like floyd or jeffrey then i don´t think we need him.

he adds nothing that torrey can´t do!!!

[Mojodrew]

Hi guys. Jags fan here.

Lee Evans is scheduled for a medical evaluation and to visit the Jags today.
We would love to sign him, he's not as good as he used to be, but with our terrible offense he is definitely an upgrade.
We need a vet, but does he still has a lot in the tank ?

Thanks.

[BMORElegacy]

[quote name='Ravenglenn' timestamp='1332299845' post='1029616']
No. He punched his ticket in the playoffs. He's our version of Bill Buckner.
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If you know anything about that game, Bill Buckner was only the most memorable blunder of a string of mistakes that cost the Sox that game.

The same could be said for Lee.

No single player deserves all the blame for a loss in a TEAM SPORT.

[BMORElegacy]

[quote name='ravensfan520' timestamp='1332299612' post='1029612']
Streeters had the same problems... separation.
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We could be talking about a different person but didn't Streeter have a blazing 40 time?

Now that I think about it, I think Mayock made a point of saying Streeter didn't look as fast as he ran at the combine on tape.

[Purple City Bird Gang]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1332254545' post='1028791']
Pending a THOROUGH physical, I wouldn't have a problem with bringing Lee back as our number 3 if he is 100% healthy. He already knows the system and is there really another number 3 guy out there that we could land and expect results from.

He dropped a ball, get the hell over it, anquan has done it before, heap did in 2006 and Ray Rice led the team in drops. Who cares, it's over and we are moving forward. Let him have his redemption and we already burned a pick on him we might as well see if we can sign him for less.

Lee Evans > Ted Ginn Jr. at #3. Ginn would be great for KR though.

EDIT: Not directed to OP, just to ravens fans in general who still are crying about the end of the game.
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True but Ginn has more upside.

[Purple City Bird Gang]

[quote name='BMORElegacy' timestamp='1332319633' post='1029676']
If you know anything about that game, Bill Buckner was only the most memorable blunder of a string of mistakes that cost the Sox that game.

The same could be said for Lee.

No single player deserves all the blame for a loss in a TEAM SPORT.
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True that!

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='raybaby' timestamp='1332299670' post='1029614']

I don't think he would be 'open.' I think he would make [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]contested[/font][/color] catches. Honestly I'm just wary because our offense is already known for having trouble with separation. Hearing he already has those problems even if he can go up and get the ball is concerning for me. Not saying I would be 100 percent opposed to him coming here but I'd be wary. There are receivers who have the size and don't have that label.[/quote]

Jeffery will not have an issue getting open in the NFL. Jeffery is one of those WRs who truely saw bracket coverage in college and he was still able to dominate, despite shoty QB play. That imo translates better to the NFL then a guy who was always wide open on college.

In the NFL, open is anytime the WR can get his hands on the ball and the defender doesn't. You're not gonna have everyone getting behind the defense like Torrey did last year and even he will have to work to become a more complete WR who works the entire field because defenses will treat him like the #1 and play for his speed.

Imo its so hard to get an strong read on a guy just from scouting reports. The knock on Jeffery is separation,yet he was able to dominate as close to NFL talent as you'll see in college.

Go back and look at his last bowl game vs Nebraska, he faced what many consider a 1st round CB, and still saw bracket coverage. Jeffery dominated that game, won MVP and only played the first half.

The same people who question Jeffery's separation abilities will be the same guys who gush over the face that Jeffery is nearly indefensible because of this size and catch radius. Saying things like Jeffery is so good because even when he's covered, he can still make plays for his QB.

Personal I'm loving the fact that Jeffery is getting such negative press heading into the draft because he might actually be around for the Ravens in round 2.

[The Prestige]

I was on a Vikings board, saying it wouldn't be a bad idea for them to add Terrell Owens and Lee Evans. They combined to catch 8 TDs in the last 8 games of 2009 which were the first 8 games Ryan Fitzpatrick played for the Bills and first-year OC Alex Van Pelt.

As a Ravens fan first, I hid from them who I think will be the steal of this free agency: Braylon Edwards.

I really believe Braylon would be a great #3 who occasionally would play the #2, putting Torrey Smith or Anquan Boldin in the slot.

It's all about whether he's over his injury or not, but you would now have guys who made clutch TDs in the 2009, 2010 and 2011 playoffs AND a guy who was second in TD receptions in 2007, a guy who's led the NFL in receiving YPG, and a guy who set rookie records last year.

[CapoRocky]

[quote name='Militant X 1' timestamp='1332289861' post='1029520']
i'm not against Lee coming back but i'm not gonna lie....his dropped game winning TD pass in the AFCCG that could have put us in the SB after a 11 years absence still pisses me off everytime i think about it....and even when i am not thinking about it! smh!

~Mili
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All he had to do was to get his feet down in bounds.

[CapoRocky]

[quote name='The Prestige' timestamp='1332332107' post='1029721']
I was on a Vikings board, saying it wouldn't be a bad idea for them to add Terrell Owens and Lee Evans. They combined to catch 8 TDs in the last 8 games of 2009 which were the first 8 games Ryan Fitzpatrick played for the Bills and first-year OC Alex Van Pelt.

As a Ravens fan first, I hid from them who I think will be the steal of this free agency: Braylon Edwards.

I really believe Braylon would be a great #3 who occasionally would play the #2, putting Torrey Smith or Anquan Boldin in the slot.

It's all about whether he's over his injury or not, but you would now have guys who made clutch TDs in the 2009, 2010 and 2011 playoffs AND a guy who was second in TD receptions in 2007, a guy who's led the NFL in receiving YPG, and a guy who set rookie records last year.
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With Edwards, you would get more drops than Evans had receptions.

[PurpleThunder74]

Bring LEE back! He showed that he can still be a good option as the third option. If Doss or Williams would have stepped up and made some plays then we wouldn't even be considering this. When Lee came back he was the third option and not the other two. We need to allow the young guys to play and deal with what they bring or bring back Lee who will be healthy unlike last year.

[gotekiraven]

I'm in favor of bringing Lee back at a cheaper price. A decent career over many years shouldn't overshadowed due to one play. That's just stupid in my book. He already knows the system is a plus. If the Ravens go the draft, it's hard to know how that will ultimately turn out plus they will have to deal with the learning curve of a new rookie. Torrey picked it up quick, but he might have been the exception to the rule.

[gotekiraven]

I'm in favor of bringing Lee back at a cheaper price. A decent career over many years shouldn't overshadowed due to one play. That's just stupid in my book. He already knows the system is a plus. If the Ravens go the draft, it's hard to know how that will ultimately turn out plus they will have to deal with the learning curve of a new rookie. Torrey picked it up quick, but he might have been the exception to the rule.

[Yatagarasu]

Maybe we can bring him after the draft, but then the offseason can really help him, but he does take away valuable time from our rookies, but then who do we have?

Torrey, Boldin, Doss, Williams, Reed

Williams is going to be a quality special teamer. Reed might not play at all since he tore his ACL late in the season. So we can use a low FA signing like Lee Evans for some target practice.

Lee Evans might sign a very low contract for redemption, but I hate how Cam uses him. like 4-6 snaps per game. We need more 3-4 WR bunches!

[Yatagarasu]

But then Cam limit the potential of the massive offensive plays, which could mean he's either stubborn, didn't have the time to incorporate everything due to lockout, or just inflexible. We have all the tools to make a Smashmouth run offense, Double TE sets, WR Bunches, Spread Offense, Vertical Game, and Mobile RB plays. I wish we replaced Cam with either the Broncos or Patriots offensive staffs who actually play according to strength. Cam is too stubborn or dumb to keep picking plays that actually help our offense.