Lee Evans - Signed With Jags

[RavensWin09]

no... we need a different type of player than lee is and we need to get younger. there are PLENTY of in-house people and good draft prospects. don't waste time on lee when great young players like laquan, doss, or drafted guys could be even more rewarding.

[BMORElegacy]

The short and sweet answer is absolutely. I was a vocal supporter of Lee when he was here and I think he's exactly what we need at the #3 spot. He has solid hands, experience, straight line speed that can compliment Torrey, familiarity with the system, and, most importantly, a year of relationship building with Joe. The way our passing attack seemed to "click" against NE is just a glimpse into what could be if we use Lee, Q, and Torrey as they should be utilized.....I'm looking at you Cam Cam.

[RavensWin09]

he's going to sit on the market for awhile so wait til after we fill our needs in the draft[b] IF[/b] they wanted to sign him.

[BMORElegacy]

While I think we should bring Lee back for a deep discounted price. I still believe we should target a big-bodied wideout in the draft. Possibly even early in the draft. BPA is the name of the game.

I know the chances are slim to none of Michael Floyd dropping into the 20's but if he does I am of the camp that believes we should go after him. We were one pick away from stealing Dez Bryant and I'd hate to miss out on such a promising player like Floyd. He's big, he's fast, and he has true number one potential.

[RavensWin09]

[quote name='BMORElegacy' timestamp='1332272709' post='1029153']
While I think we should bring Lee back for a deep discounted price. I still believe we should target a big-bodied wideout in the draft. Possibly even early in the draft. BPA is the name of the game.

I know the chances are slim to none of Michael Floyd dropping into the 20's but if he does I am of the camp that believes we should go after him. We were one pick away from stealing Dez Bryant and I'd hate to miss out on such a promising player like Floyd. He's big, he's fast, and he has true number one potential.
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we would go to an OK receiving core to ELITE. although there are some great WR talents in this years draft, we'd be as happy as today's bronco fans to get Michael Floyd. he is in such a weird spot though. some see him in the top 7/8, some see him dropping to 19/20. i'd trade in the top 15 with no regret. i think it's worth it even it costs a few high draft picks.

[BMORElegacy]

[quote name='RavensWin09' timestamp='1332273332' post='1029172']
we would go to an OK receiving core to ELITE. although there are some great WR talents in this years draft, we'd be as happy as today's bronco fans to get Michael Floyd. he is in such a weird spot though. some see him in the top 7/8, some see him dropping to 19/20. i'd trade in the top 15 with no regret. i think it's worth it even it costs a few high draft picks.
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I'm with you. I think he's worth trading up to get and I hope if Oz senses Floyd dropping for whatever reason that he starts making the necessary phone calls to move up to snatch him. I love Floyd and sincerely think he'll be the most successful WR in this draft class. That's right, I think when it's all said and done he'll outperform Blackmon.

With the whirlwind FA, a lot of teams that were mocked to take Floyd in the draft have spent big bucks on WRs so the chances are that he could very well drop to a spot where Oz would feel comfortable trading up. *fingers crossed*

[harfordravenfan]

[quote name='CapoRocky' timestamp='1332257869' post='1028906']
If we do end up taking him back, then we'd look dumb unless we got him really cheap. He was scheduled to make $3M so I'd be happy if we can get him for $1M.
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I think we can get him real cheap. I'm a big fwb of bringing Evans back, if we Di he'll bust his but to re-prove himself

[RavensWin09]

[quote name='BMORElegacy' timestamp='1332273546' post='1029176']
I'm with you. I think he's worth trading up to get and I hope if Oz senses Floyd dropping for whatever reason that he starts making the necessary phone calls to move up to snatch him. I love Floyd and sincerely think he'll be the most successful WR in this draft class. That's right, I think when it's all said and done he'll outperform Blackmon.

With the whirlwind FA, a lot of teams that were mocked to take Floyd in the draft have spent big bucks on WRs so the chances are that he could very well drop to a spot where Oz would feel comfortable trading up. *fingers crossed*
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although we can both wish and dream... i don't see it in Ozzies DNA to give away so many picks even for a talent like Floyd. unless somehow ozzie can get a good deal with how many picks we give someone. thats probably not possible though. i would do it... ozzie maybe not

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='Purple Nurple' timestamp='1332254425' post='1028786']I really doubt we bring him back. He'd be the odd man out in the locker room.

........Although the first game-winning catch he makes, all will be forgiven I'd imagine.[/quote]

I can see Lee Evans getting treated any different in the locker room should he come back. Just like Ray said right after the game, the Ravens loss as a team; there's no Evans, there's no Cundiff that lost that game. They win as a team and lose the same way.

I'd look at the Lee Evans situation much like Webb. Fans turned on Webb after the 58 yard pass in the playoff loss to the Steelers, but this team never allowed it to be an issue. It was all about how Web would respond and he did it well.

I don't know Lee Evans as a man, but as a man I can't see how Evans isn't dying with anticipation to get back on the field and prove that last season was an aberration, especially if he can do it in a Ravens uniform.

[Dnyce215]

bring him back, for depth purposes. If floyd falls pull the trigger to get him OZ!!!

[Smoke]

I would bring him back. He had a injury last year that carried through almost the entire season. He can stretch the field and does have good hands. Everyone must get over the drop in playoff.
Right player right price.
I actually think he would welcome the chance to redeem himself and pay very well

[SecretAgentMan]

New Poll.
Lee Evans or
Mike Wallace. jk
NO. I want someone with speed who can catch. Rueben Randall, or Tommy Streeter would be good options

[Ravensfan23]

I don't understand why some hold the thought that if Evans is brought back, it'd somehow change are draft strategy. Evans would not be a long term fix, he be given the same type of deal Mason allegedly was given last season. Come in and compete with these young guys, if you win a spot you remain on the team, if not you'll be cut before game one and maybe signed back to avoid your contract being garaunteed.

I think the biggest pro to bringing Evans back is continuity. At some point the Ravens have to allow their Franchise QB to build relationships with the same guys each year. His rookie year he had Williams at #3, then it was Washington, then Housh, then Evans and now we are seemingly looking again.

Bringing Evans back to "compete" would finally allow Flacco to have the same group of guys in back to back seasons for the first time on his career.

I think Evans showed what he is capable of and what he could bring to this offense in the playoffs. Even doing the regular season Evans showed potential in this offense, him and Joe just didn't seem to be on the same page.

Imo there is absolutely no downside in bringing Lee back because he won't be more then a rental.

With or without Lee Evans I see the Ravens finding a way to draft 2 WRs this year.

[BMORElegacy]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1332275936' post='1029248']
I can see Lee Evans getting treated any different in the locker room should he come back. Just like Ray said right after the game, the Ravens loss as a team; there's no Evans, there's no Cundiff that lost that game. They win as a team and lose the same way.

I'd look at the Lee Evans situation much like Webb. Fans turned on Webb after the 58 yard pass in the playoff loss to the Steelers, but this team never allowed it to be an issue. It was all about how Web would respond and he did it well.

I don't know Lee Evans as a man, but as a man I can't see how Evans isn't dying with anticipation to get back on the field and prove that last season was an aberration, especially if he can do it in a Ravens uniform.
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I don't blame Webb for that play. It was Landry's blown assignment [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/268213.gif[/img]

[BMORElegacy]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1332278744' post='1029299']
I don't understand why some hold the thought that if Evans is brought back, it'd somehow change are draft strategy. Evans would not be a long term fix, he be given the same type of deal Mason allegedly was given last season. Come in and compete with these young guys, if you win a spot you remain on the team, if not you'll be cut before game one and maybe signed back to avoid your contract being garaunteed.

I think the biggest pro to bringing Evans back is continuity. At some point the Ravens have to allow their Franchise QB to build relationships with the same guys each year. His rookie year he had Williams at #3, then it was Washington, then Housh, then Evans and now we are seemingly looking again.

Bringing Evans back to "compete" would finally allow Flacco to have the same group of guys in back to back seasons for the first time on his career.

I think Evans showed what he is capable of and what he could bring to this offense in the playoffs. Even doing the regular season Evans showed potential in this offense, [b]him and Joe just didn't seem to be on the same page.[/b]

Imo there is absolutely no downside in bringing Lee back because he won't be more then a rental.

With or without Lee Evans I see the Ravens finding a way to draft 2 WRs this year.
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I have to disagree with this. Joe connected very quickly with Lee in the preseason. He was our leading receiver in preseason and it was a shame he was injured for the majority of the season. Joe and Lee had great chemistry. Lee was just too hurt to get on the field to be a factor last year.

[BMORElegacy]

[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1332278715' post='1029295']
New Poll.
Lee Evans or
Mike Wallace. jk
NO. I want someone with speed who can catch. Rueben Randall, or Tommy Streeter would be good options
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"With speed who can catch" is Lee Evans in a nutshell.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1332278715' post='1029295']New Poll.
Lee Evans or
Mike Wallace. jk
NO. I want someone with speed who can catch. Rueben Randall, or Tommy Streeter would be good options[/quote]

Randall is a slower version of Doss, there isn't a need for him with the Ravens. I don't see use touching Streeter because we'll have to over draft to get him.

Don't be surprised to see a WR duo drafted much like Smith and Doss last season.

I see guys like Jeffery early and Posey late or Wright early and Childs late. I can even see the Ravens doubling up at WR with focusing on size. Maybe a combo like Hill in the 2nd round followed by McNutt.

I see the Ravens really being aggressive with the WR position in this draft.

[SecretAgentMan]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1332279828' post='1029341']
Randall is a slower version of Doss, there isn't a need for him with the Ravens. I don't see use touching Streeter because we'll have to over draft to get him.

Don't be surprised to see a WR duo drafted much like Smith and Doss last season.

I see guys like Jeffery early and Posey late or Wright early and Childs late. I can even see the Ravens doubling up at WR with focusing on size. Maybe a combo like Hill in the 2nd round followed by McNutt.

I see the Ravens really being aggressive with the WR position in this draft.
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I don't expect a duo, just Streeter. Evans was a wasted talent in Buffalo. I say he deserves one more chance. With another team

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Ra[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1332279828' post='1029341']
[b]Randall is a slower version of Doss, there isn't a need for him with the Ravens.[/b] I don't see use touching Streeter because we'll have to over draft to get him.

Don't be surprised to see a WR duo drafted much like Smith and Doss last season.

I see guys like Jeffery early and Posey late or Wright early and Childs late. I can even see the Ravens doubling up at WR with focusing on size. Maybe a combo like Hill in the 2nd round followed by McNutt.

I see the Ravens really being aggressive with the WR position in this draft.
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I agree with most of the post, but Randall is faster than Doss.

[Bltravens]

Wasn't part of Jeffery's issues his ability to separate?

Either way, I'd be beyond surprised if we double up'd on WR again this draft.

[Ray Ray Ravens]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1332280396' post='1029351']
Wasn't part of Jeffery's issues his ability to separate?

Either way, I'd be beyond surprised if we double up'd on WR again this draft.
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Yea Ozzie said he would never sacrifice the defense for offense. I think this will be a defense heavy draft with some O linemen thrown in.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='BMORElegacy' timestamp='1332279301' post='1029325']
I have to disagree with this. Joe connected very quickly with Lee in the preseason. He was our leading receiver in preseason and it was a shame he was injured for the majority of the season. Joe and Lee had great chemistry. Lee was just too hurt to get on the field to be a factor last year.[/quote]

Notice I said in the regular season. As you said, its a shame about the injury because it didn't allow Joe and Lee to build on what they started.

By the time Evans returned that couple weeks of chemistry was shot. I can reference a few plays that showed their disconnect.

In the Chargers game, the two failed to connect on a potential TD when Flacco misread a sluggo. During the 1 Winning Drive show, they showed Joe apologizing to Lee for the miss throw. Saying next time he know to just get the ball in there instead of lobbing it.

Then in the Browns game they missed on a bang 8, because the timing was off. Joe missed Evans deep a couple times and I believe it was because he was judging Lee's speed. Lee had a couple of drops just because he got his head around a tad late.

But in the Playoffs the seemed to be much more in tune with each other. That's why I would bring him back

[POE]

I don't see the harm in bringing Evans back. We need to infuse youth in this WR corps either way so it's not like Evans is the answer, but I think he could still be useful, if healthy that is. The non catch in the closing seconds of their last game is still hurting many, including me, but I think Lee would have had a greater impact on our team last season had he been healthy. Maybe this coming season will be what his first should have been. He has to hold onto the ball this time around though, if it happens

[Irish Raven]

Sure, bring him back

Right price though, probably leave him sitting in FA for a while and the agents demands will go way down

There's no big rush here, Ozzie might not make a move until training camp

[raybaby]

One word: Yes.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1332278744' post='1029299']
I don't understand why some hold the thought that if Evans is brought back, it'd somehow change are draft strategy. Evans would not be a long term fix, he be given the same type of deal Mason allegedly was given last season. Come in and compete with these young guys, if you win a spot you remain on the team, if not you'll be cut before game one and maybe signed back to avoid your contract being garaunteed.

I think the biggest pro to bringing Evans back is continuity. At some point the Ravens have to allow their Franchise QB to build relationships with the same guys each year. His rookie year he had Williams at #3, then it was Washington, then Housh, then Evans and now we are seemingly looking again.

[b]Bringing Evans back to "compete" would finally allow Flacco to have the same group of guys in back to back seasons for the first time on his career.[/b]

I think Evans showed what he is capable of and what he could bring to this offense in the playoffs. Even doing the regular season Evans showed potential in this offense, him and Joe just didn't seem to be on the same page.

Imo there is absolutely no downside in bringing Lee back because he won't be more then a rental.

With or without Lee Evans I see the Ravens finding a way to draft 2 WRs this year.
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Just on the point of continuity, wouldn't it make more sense then to draft some younger guys that will be here a while? Lee is 31 now, and Q will be 32 in October. Just saying, this would be Joe's second year with Torrey and Tandon, and his third with Q and the tight ends - that's as long as he had Mase and Heap. Because at some point in the next 3-4 years we'll be taking about replacing Q if he's still here, and Lee would be in the same situation. The way I see it, he's got experience with his number 1 Q, his number 2 Torrey, his tight ends, and Tandon. So if we were to draft a young rookie, it wouldn't be like he'd be pushed to start anytime soon like Torrey was, but not having another veteran body in front of him may mean the rookie would get some looks and experience early. Right now we have a bunch of 22-25 year old receivers and tight ends, who in 4 years will still be in their primes. To me it just doesn't make sense to add in Lee when he'd be at best the number 3 wide receiver and we're trying to get the younger receivers more involved anyway.

[big hits and ball hawks]

I'm on the "wait until after the draft" boat. If we don't get a WR in the draft, he passes a physical, and we can get him for cheap then yes to Evans returning.

[B Reb]

Yes other than the draft a healthy lee Evans is by far our best option.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1332279928' post='1029343']
I don't expect a duo, just Streeter. Evans was a wasted talent in Buffalo. I say he deserves one more chance. With another team[/quote]

Streeter is a project in every sense of the word and judging from the lack of production at WR last season and the emphasis Ozzie put on adding to the WR Corp, I can't see a project like Strerter being the only WR taken in a draft that has deep WR talent.

As for Evans, even if he has a breakout season or a season equivalent to some of his better ones on Buffalo, he's not a long term answer. The Ravens are looking to get younger and that might be the main reason Evans isn't even brought back this year.

I refuse to believe that Mason wouldn't have produced at least as much as Evans even when it was clear that his injury would prevent him from being a key part of our Playoff run. Mason would have probably gave us more then any other players behind Smith and Boldin. However the Ravens wanted to get younger and faster. If Evans is brought back he will suffer the same fate next year. Getting pushed to the side for youth.

Hell I can even see Boldin being pushed off the roster next year, especially if we can hit on a WR early in the draft and Doss/Williams progress like we hope.

So thinking that Evans is a good reason not to attack WR aggressively in the draft(if there are guys we like) isn't smart imo.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1332285264' post='1029429']


Just on the point of continuity, wouldn't it make more sense then to draft some younger guys that will be here a while? Lee is 31 now, and Q will be 32 in October. Just saying, this would be Joe's second year with Torrey and Tandon, and his third with Q and the tight ends - that's as long as he had Mase and Heap. Because at some point in the next 3-4 years we'll be taking about replacing Q if he's still here, and Lee would be in the same situation. The way I see it, he's got experience with his number 1 Q, his number 2 Torrey, his tight ends, and Tandon. So if we were to draft a young rookie, it wouldn't be like he'd be pushed to start anytime soon like Torrey was, but not having another veteran body in front of him may mean the rookie would get some looks and experience early. Right now we have a bunch of 22-25 year old receivers and tight ends, who in 4 years will still be in their primes. To me it just doesn't make sense to add in Lee when he'd be at best the number 3 wide receiver and we're trying to get the younger receivers more involved anyway.
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I agree. That's why I said with or without Evans I still see us doubling up on WR in thd draft. Also that's my I put a emphasis on allowing Evans to "compete" with the younger guys.

As for the Ravens not doubling up on WRs in this draft because he said he would never sacrifice defense for offense, in that same presser he also mentioned how he wanted to supply his franchise QB with the necessary peieces to reach that elite level. Right now even with the departure of Johnson, Redding and maybe McClain our defense is well ahead of our offense.

Ozzie and Mr. B talked about being a balanced team. Getting top 10 play from both offense and defense. When Ozzie was asked about the main areas the team needed to improve, he answered offense in 2 of 3 areas and WR was one of them.

We think we have 2 pretty good WRs in Doss and Williams, but no one is 100% sure. Smith while having a great rookie season, still needs to prove himself. If any of us think that Ozzie won't hesitate to draft two WR who he thinks could help this team, just because of what 2 young guys did in the preseason or because it means not drafting a late round defense it'd be foolish think imo.

Also Boldin probably won't be back after this year and if Reed doesn't prove he can bring more to this team, he'll probably be cut this year. Laquan is one poor preseason away from being a promising udfa guy, to out of a job. So this WR Corp is far from set and we aren't quite at that one player away stage either. Because of that I see it as a strong possibility that Ozzie double dips in a deep WR pool.