Terrell Owens

[CapoRocky]

TO is done! Never, no way, would we ever consider signing him to a contract even at veteran minimum.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='Blex64' timestamp='1332004782' post='1025540']

I didn't say the trade turned out well. The part of the quote I bolded said that we acquired Lee Evans because the FO panicked about Torrey in preseason and moved to sign a veteran because of it. I don't think Torrey's preseason performance had anything to do with acquiring Evans. Also, taking a FB in the 4th is somewhat early, and if one does go that high he's probably the best fullback in the draft. Not saying this isn't a team that can't find value late in the draft (its one of the best in the league at it), just that McClain wasn't some diamond in the rough. You'd be better off mentioning people like Bart Scott.
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So then why do you think we acquired Lee Evans if not because the front office believed Torrey Smith was not ready to start?

[Blex64]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1332008223' post='1025601']

So then why do you think we acquired Lee Evans if not because the front office believed Torrey Smith was not ready to start?
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To have someone behind Q with more experience then 1 year as a 6th-stringer between all of them? If Torrey wasn't ready to start he wouldn't have started vs the Steelers or Titants and...he did. Lee was active for both those games. Without Evans, our corps was:

Torrey Smith, Rookie, 2nd round pick
Tandon Doss, Rookie, 4th round pick
LaQuan Williams, Rookies, UDFA
David Reed, 2nd year player, 6th? round pick

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='Blex64' timestamp='1332008943' post='1025613']

To have someone behind Q with more experience then 1 year as a 6th-stringer between all of them? If Torrey wasn't ready to start he wouldn't have started vs the[b] Steelers [/b]or [b]Titants and...he did. Lee was active for both those games[/b]. Without Evans, our corps was:

Torrey Smith, Rookie, 2nd round pick
Tandon Doss, Rookie, 4th round pick
LaQuan Williams, Rookies, UDFA
David Reed, 2nd year player, 6th? round pick
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Baltimore Ravens vs. Pittsburgh Steelers week 8 IR lists Lee Evans as out

[url="http://www.footballnewsnow.com/2011/baltimore-ravens-vs-pittsburgh-steelers-injury-report/"]http://www.footballn...-injury-report/[/url]

Lee started the first game against the Steelers and the game against the Titans

Here is a link to Torrey's starts.

[url="http://www.nfl.com/player/torreysmith/2495459/gamelogs"]http://www.nfl.com/p...495459/gamelogs[/url]

He started 14 games, week 3 onward. Week 3 is the first week Lee missed. Torrey only gained the starting position in week 3, [i]after[/i] Lee went down with an injury in week 2. Point being, the front office wasn't comfortable with Torrey in August which is why they brought in Lee. There is no point in brining in an old receiver like T.O. now that Torrey is going into his second season. And yes, in my opinion Lee was a total bust, because he only played 9 games, only started 2 games, and only caught 4 passes. We lost a 4th round pick for nothing - LaQuan Williams had as many catches on the year as Lee. I don't want to bring in any more older free agent receivers, especially not a guy who is almost 40 years old.

[CapoRocky]

I really liked our draft picks last year. Torrey was the best surprise of the season. Jimmy started coming on at the end. Now, let's see if Tandon is ready to play after the preseason is over. I think that the he is one that will be hurt the most by drafting a WR in the 1st or 2nd round. Williams may make the team as a special team player.

[The Raven]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1332008223' post='1025601']

So then why do you think we acquired Lee Evans if not because the front office believed Torrey Smith was not ready to start?
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Because Reed and Doss weren't ready to be number 3 WRs... Lol. We had no depth at WR and Evans was supposed to help with that.

[BMOREHAWAII]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1331984207' post='1025359']
im assuming you got negged for the first part, but that last part, id be willing to bet, it that was TO he would have been doing a dance and we would have been jumping for joy in living rooms, no doubt about it!



[size=1]then they throw a flag for excessive celevration[/size][/quote]
lol. Im 100% sure thats why i was negged, just stating facts and backing up the little guy.

Buti i agree with you. As much as i dislike T.O., he would have caught that and probably would have done some annoying dance. But my my what a glorious dance that would have been...

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1332010766' post='1025643']

Because Reed and Doss weren't ready to be number 3 WRs... Lol. We had no depth at WR and Evans was supposed to help with that.
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David Reed was not ready to be a number 3 wide receiver on this team? I've already dug through the stats - this team does not use it's third wide receiver at all, so I don't see the point in trading for a "veteran" wide receiver. We had a veteran 3rd wide receiver last year in Houshmanzadeh, and he caught 30 passes the whole season. That same year the Pittsburgh Steelers' [i]punt returner[/i] caught 16 passes. So David Reed has been here for a full season and offseason more than Torrey Smith, but he was LESS ready to be a wide receiver than Smith, when he was the better route runner coming out of college?

What I think you're trying to say is the front office wanted a veteran receiving presence on this team because they didn't trust Reed and Doss. I don't believe that, because then we could have brought back Derrick Mason to be the number 3 guy - this front office was unwilling to trade a SECOND round pick in 2010 for Anquan Boldin - they love their picks - they're not going to just give up a fourth round pick for Lee Evans because they wanted a third receiver. This team didn't use a number 3 wideout all that much, so why should they care if Reed or Doss couldn't do everything yet?

They brought Lee Evans in to be the second receiver, which is why he got the start in the first two games of the season - if they'd brought him in to be number 3, why wasn't Torrey starting from game 1? Only after Lee went down did Torrey assume the starting role.

[The Raven]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1332011492' post='1025659']

David Reed was not ready to be a number 3 wide receiver on this team? I've already dug through the stats - this team does not use it's third wide receiver at all, so I don't see the point in trading for a "veteran" wide receiver. We had a veteran 3rd wide receiver last year in Houshmanzadeh, and he caught 30 passes the whole season. That same year the Pittsburgh Steelers' [i]punt returner[/i] caught 16 passes. [b]So David Reed has been here for a full season and offseason more than Torrey Smith, but he was LESS ready to be a wide receiver than Smith, when he was the better route runner coming out of college? [/b]

What I think you're trying to say is the front office wanted a veteran receiving presence on this team because they didn't trust Reed and Doss. I don't believe that, because then we could have brought back Derrick Mason to be the number 3 guy - this front office was unwilling to trade a SECOND round pick in 2010 for Anquan Boldin - they love their picks - they're not going to just give up a fourth round pick for Lee Evans because they wanted a third receiver. This team didn't use a number 3 wideout all that much, so why should they care if Reed or Doss couldn't do everything yet?
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Yeah... so thats why Reed rode the bench and Torrey tore it up... [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/eyes.gif[/img]

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1332011798' post='1025663']

Yeah... so thats why Reed rode the bench and Torrey tore it up... [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/eyes.gif[/img]
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You're missing the whole point. You're claim is that Lee was brought in to be the number 3 receiver. Where is your evidence - I'm saying Lee was SECOND on the depth chart the first two games of the season, then got hurt and Torrey took his spot. Which is again why I don't want to bring in an older receiver like TO - he would be number 3 on the depth chart at best, and he would pout.

[The Raven]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1332011993' post='1025666']

You're missing the whole point. You're claim is that Lee was brought in to be the number 3 receiver. Where is your evidence - I'm saying Lee was SECOND on the depth chart the first two games of the season, then got hurt and Torrey took his spot. Which is again why I don't want to bring in an older receiver like TO - he would be number 3 on the depth chart at best, and he would pout.
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My main point was that we had no depth at WR, and Evans should have helped with that. Reed and Doss wouldn't have been ready whether Smith or Evans was the number 2.

[Ravenseconbeast]

All three suggestion listed sounds like terrible. Steve/Braylon/T.O. < Evans

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='codizzle' timestamp='1331993301' post='1025415']
After what he did in 04 it was? ... Ummm heck no.. I would consider Hines ward over TO
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If Hines proved he could play a position on the o-line, I'd be willing to give him a shot. After all, isn't that what he's known for, being a great "blocking" wide receiver?

[MsMarvel73]

Why are we still having this conversation? TO burnt every bridge in and out of Baltimore the last time. I doubt he's grown up...it's still all about him. No thank you.

[Militant X 1]

Hell to the NO on T.O.

end of discussion!

~Mili

[herostyle]

I would be absolutely thrilled if T.O. was on the roster. He played extremely well for Cincinatti.

[1/28/01]

I saw this dude on the corner of North Avenue and Lombard that looked promising. I say we give him a shot...no?

[Maryland1]

[quote name='Purple_ICE 81' timestamp='1331966394' post='1025314']
[b]DONT FREAK OUT!... [/b][color=#0000ff]Yes I am making a "what if the Ravens went after T.O. thread"[/color] [color=#ff0000]we have all seen them and heard the talk on here before.[/color][/quote]
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[BloodRaven]

Maybe we should fly him in for a workout without any intention of signing him.

[BirdWatcher]

[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1332033216' post='1026179']Maybe we should fly him in for a workout without any intention of signing him.[/quote]

Better yet, we offer him a tryout if he pays his own airfare.

[acosta2277]

He demands the ball, and I do not want the pressure on Joe Flacco to throw him the ball.Yes he could help us. But not as much as he could hurt us. Not worth the risk.

[Ravenslifer]

I can see it now - final seconds of the AFCCG, Ravens down by 4, Flacco to T.O., touchdown Rav .... wait a minute, T.O. drops the pass in the endzone, Ravens lose.

[ghost1986]

No TO needs to retire he's a bum and only brings drama. This should have never been made.

[gotekiraven]

Terrel Owens? This must have been a slow topic day. We need young speed burners, not old drama kings.

[cobrajet]

No, No, No, No, No! I am sorry, I never forget or forgive that easy, just like I am still waiting for the Bears to give us our draft pick and until they do I will always hold a grudge. Bringing T.O. here is the same to me as bringing Hines Ward here. Don't like the guy, never will.

[cobrajet]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1332032819' post='1026173']
I saw this dude on the corner of North Avenue and Lombard that looked promising. I say we give him a shot...no?
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