2012 Free Agency Thread

[JO_75]

Contract details of Robert Mathis' new contract is out and I'm shocked the Colts spent this much money on a 31 year old DE.

Mathis signed a 4 year $36 Million contract with $15 Million Guaranteed. So let me get this straight, now put aside Peyton's neck injury and the fact Andrew Luck is basically sitting in their lap, but why pay Mathis $31 Million but yet they may not want to pay $28 Million to Peyton? If it was up to me, I'd rather keep Peyton and pay him the $28 Million rather give Mathis $36 Million.

[Gordo52]

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We can't see the Tweet due to the fact it's a private twitter account and only a select few can see the status update.
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Oops, well it says ...
**UPDATED NFL FA RUMORS**Source: LB - Jarret Johnson [url="https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23Ravens"][s]#[/s][b]Ravens[/b][/url] has a bunch of teams lining up (Pats/Jets/Seahawks/Vikings/Titans)

[JO_75]

Despite signing Stevie Johnson, the Buffalo Bills are rumored to be one of the 9 to 10 teams who will be interested in signing Chargers Receiver Vincent Jackson.

[url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/bills-rumored-to-have-interest-in-vincent-jackson/"]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/bills-rumored-to-have-interest-in-vincent-jackson/[/url]

From Aaron Wilson's Twitter:

[quote]Source says as many as nine to 10 teams could get involved in Vincent Jackson sweepstakes.[/quote]

[JO_75]

Saints will work out WR Randy Moss on Tuesday.

[url="http://rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/229030/saints-will-work-out-randy-moss-on-tuesday"]http://rotoworld.com...moss-on-tuesday[/url]

Too bad Randy Moss is washed up, if he went to New Orleans and was still good it would be like 2007 all over again except Drew Brees playing the part of Tom Brady.

[Sizzlebshu]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1330999627' post='1013163']
Contract details of Robert Mathis' new contract is out and I'm shocked the Colts spent this much money on a 31 year old DE.

Mathis signed a 4 year $36 Million contract with $15 Million Guaranteed. So let me get this straight, now put aside Peyton's neck injury and the fact Andrew Luck is basically sitting in their lap, but why pay Mathis $31 Million but yet they may not want to pay $28 Million to Peyton? If it was up to me, I'd rather keep Peyton and pay him the $28 Million rather give Mathis $36 Million.
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Its simple. Its not the money thats paid, but how its paid. Peyton is worth 35 million in actuality this season where as Mathis barring front loaded and backloaded contract terms, is worth 9 million per year on average. To put Peyton's salary into perspective, thats roughly a fourth of the colts' total salary cap. (35/120-125 million). Mathis on the other hand is getting 9 million a year and completes one of the best sack tandems in all of football and is currently one of the only 3 players that shine on the abysmal thing called the colts defense.

[JO_75]

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Its simple. Its not the money thats paid, but how its paid. Peyton is worth 35 million in actuality this season where as Mathis barring front loaded and backloaded contract terms, is worth 9 million per year on average. To put Peyton's salary into perspective, thats roughly a fourth of the colts' total salary cap. (35/120-125 million). Mathis on the other hand is getting 9 million a year and completes one of the best sack tandems in all of football and is currently one of the only 3 players that shine on the abysmal thing called the colts defense.
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Yeah but we saw what happened last season, it wasn't Mathis who all of a sudden made the team a 2-14 team by not playing, it was Manning. I think paying Peyton, especially since it has become a QB driven league, makes the most sense and trading the # 1 Pick if Peyton is healthy is even better. I think Peyton is more valuable to the team then Mathis is, plus Mathis has played in a 4-3 his whole career, now he is going to be asked to play a 3-4 OLB, something he may not be able to play.

[JO_75]

The Falcons have agreed to a new contract with Safety Thomas DeCoud. Terms have not yet been disclosed.

[url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/06/falcons-agree-to-contract-with-thomas-decoud/"]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/06/falcons-agree-to-contract-with-thomas-decoud/[/url]

Maybe there is a chance that Luke Kuechly could drop in the draft after all, the Eagles are interested in LB Dan Connor who is set to become a Free Agent next week, and also LB Stephen Tulloch has been mentioned as getting interest from the Eagles.

[url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/06/panthers-dan-connor-a-free-agent-target-for-the-eagles/"]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/06/panthers-dan-connor-a-free-agent-target-for-the-eagles/[/url]

Mario Manningham wants to stay a Giant despite no progress on a new deal at this time.

[url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/06/no-progress-on-new-deal-but-manningham-wants-to-remain-with-giants/"]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/06/no-progress-on-new-deal-but-manningham-wants-to-remain-with-giants/[/url]

[Sizzlebshu]

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Yeah but we saw what happened last season, it wasn't Mathis who all of a sudden made the team a 2-14 team by not playing, it was Manning. I think paying Peyton, especially since it has become a QB driven league, makes the most sense and trading the # 1 Pick if Peyton is healthy is even better. I think Peyton is more valuable to the team then Mathis is, plus Mathis has played in a 4-3 his whole career, now he is going to be asked to play a 3-4 OLB, something he may not be able to play.
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Okay heres where I agree and disagree

I agree with trading the #1 pick if Manning is healthy. Its not just manning whose aging. They can avoid a severe rebuild by trading the pick. They may not become or beat the Texans, but they can avoid a severe rebuild on both sides of the ball

I think Mathis can play the 3-4 olb role.

I don't think Peyton is worth 35 million though. I dont think he or any player for that matter is that valuable to their team. The reason the colts went from 10+ teams to 2-14 is because of complete ineptitude of the organization as a whole. They had no decent back up qb. They let Manning completely control and adjust that offense to a system that only he could run. They gave Peyton complete control of the offense. No team should ever give any player that much control especially a quarterback who is the target of every defense.

[Purple_ICE 81]

Randy Moss worked out today for the Saints and turned heads. He has 2 more workouts next week for 2 other teams

[Purple_ICE 81]

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Saints will work out WR Randy Moss on Tuesday.

[url="http://rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/229030/saints-will-work-out-randy-moss-on-tuesday"]http://rotoworld.com...moss-on-tuesday[/url]

[b]Too bad Randy Moss is washed up[/b], if he went to New Orleans and was still good it would be like 2007 all over again except Drew Brees playing the part of Tom Brady.
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From what people saw at the workout Randy looked like his old self. He was running routes well, fast, smooth and people left the workout with their jaws dropped and their expectations baffled.

[Purple_ICE 81]

The 49ers have offers ready for WRs Vincent Jackson and Mike Wallace....whether they will take them, or another team will out bid them is up in the air

[Purple_ICE 81]

The Colts are most likely to trade or cut DE Dwight Freeney before the draft due to his massive $19M cap hit and Pagano's 3-4 defense.

[JO_75]

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The 49ers have offers ready for WRs Vincent Jackson and Mike Wallace....whether they will take them, or another team will out bid them is up in the air
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Well I don't see how they would prefer Vincent Jackson who is 29 over a 25 year old Mike Wallace, I mean you get 4 more years out of Wallace than Jackson but at the same time signing Jackson allows them to keep their 1st round pick, while signing Wallace means losing their first round pick. I still think they will go after Mike Wallace and give up the 30th pick of the Draft for him.

[Purple_ICE 81]

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Well I don't see how they would prefer Vincent Jackson who is 29 over a 25 year old Mike Wallace, I mean you get 4 more years out of Wallace than Jackson but at the same time signing Jackson allows them to keep their 1st round pick, while signing Wallace means losing their first round pick. I still think they will go after Mike Wallace and give up the 30th pick of the Draft for him.
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Yea Wallace is better than Jackson anyway. It will be interesting to see how things pan out.

[cursona pirate]

I am a free agent as a waterboy. Just got calls from the Saints because the other waterboy was trying to put laxitives in the other teams Gatorade.

[JO_75]

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I am a free agent as a waterboy. Just got calls from the Saints because the other waterboy was trying to put laxitives in the other teams Gatorade.
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haha, well I'm a free agent camera man and I just got off the phone with the Patriots... oops I wasn't suppose to say that.

[JO_75]

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Yea Wallace is better than Jackson anyway. It will be interesting to see how things pan out.
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Yeah hopefully Wallace, because I don't want him in Pittsburgh nor do I want him on any other AFC Team. I was just reading that Jerry Rice said he thinks the 49ers should go after Peyton Manning and I been hearing that Manning and Wayne could be a package deal so could you imagine the upgrade the 49ers would get if they were able to sign Manning, and then sign Reggie Wayne to go along with Vernon Davis and that defense?

[arnie_uk]

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Yeah hopefully Wallace, because I don't want him in Pittsburgh nor do I want him on any other AFC Team. I was just reading that Jerry Rice said he thinks the 49ers should go after Peyton Manning and I been hearing that Manning and Wayne could be a package deal so could you imagine the upgrade the 49ers would get if they were able to sign Manning, and then sign Reggie Wayne to go along with Vernon Davis and that defense?
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best team in nfc.. but i dont think they have the cap for that

[JO_75]

Apparently the Saints and Randy Moss could be closing on a deal after today's workouts. If Moss is back to his old self again, as I said before it will be like 2007 all over again except Brees plays the part of Brady. Also if we thought throwing for over 5,000 yards was impressive last year, imagine how many yards and Touchdowns Brees could throw for with a healthy and better Randy Moss.

[url="http://rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/229075/report-strong-chance-of-moss-saints-deal"]http://rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/229075/report-strong-chance-of-moss-saints-deal[/url]

[Purple_ICE 81]

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best team in nfc.. but i dont think they have the cap for that
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They have like 25M in cap space. They are amongst the top salary cap free teams.

[Purple_ICE 81]

[b]BREAKING NEWS- The Colts and Peyton Manning to part ways after 14 seasons.[/b]

[arnie_uk]

seahawks cut [url="https://twitter.com/#!/RavensInsider/status/177511535420252160"]marcus trufant[/url]

[JO_75]

Jaguars re-sign CB Rashean Mathis...

[url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/07/jags-re-sign-rashean-mathis-to-one-year-5-million-deal/"]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/07/jags-re-sign-rashean-mathis-to-one-year-5-million-deal/[/url]

Falcons resign DE Kroy Biermann.

[url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/07/kroy-biermann-re-signs-with-falcons/"]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/07/kroy-biermann-re-signs-with-falcons/[/url]

[JO_75]

Falcons re-sign RB Jason Snelling to a 3 year deal & Bills Re-sign TE Scott Chandler to a 2 year deal.

[url="http://rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/229197/falcons-re-sign-3rd-down-back-jason-snelling"]http://rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/229197/falcons-re-sign-3rd-down-back-jason-snelling[/url]

[url="http://rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/229205/bills-re-sign-red-zone-specialist-te-chandler"]http://rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/229205/bills-re-sign-red-zone-specialist-te-chandler[/url]

Raiders are expected to release LB Kamerion Wimbley.

[url="http://rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/229192/raiders-expected-to-release-lb-kam-wimbley"]http://rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/229192/raiders-expected-to-release-lb-kam-wimbley[/url]

[arnie_uk]

Eli manning restructures his deal, creating 7 mil of cap space

[url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/08/eli-manning-restructures-his-contract/"]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/08/eli-manning-restructures-his-contract/[/url]

[JO_75]

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Eli manning restructures his deal, creating 7 mil of cap space

[url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/08/eli-manning-restructures-his-contract/"]http://profootballta...s-his-contract/[/url]
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Oh boy... cue the "Peyton to the Giants" talk in 3...2...1..

[arnie_uk]

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Oh boy... cue the "Peyton to the Giants" talk in 3...2...1..
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take it drive about

[arnie_uk]

[url="http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/03/08/texans-johnson-cowboys-bryant-restructure-contracts/?module=HP11_headline_stack"]http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/03/08/texans-johnson-cowboys-bryant-restructure-contracts/?module=HP11_headline_stack[/url]

Dez Bryant and Andre Johnson redo their deals.

i would love suggs to re do his, since he will have enough years left to do it

[JO_75]

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[url="http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/03/08/texans-johnson-cowboys-bryant-restructure-contracts/?module=HP11_headline_stack"]http://blogs.nfl.com..._headline_stack[/url]

Dez Bryant and Andre Johnson redo their deals.

i would love suggs to re do his, since he will have enough years left to do it
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Andre Johnson re-doing his deal must mean that the Texans are going to make one final offer to Mario Williams before he could hit Free Agency. If the Texans can re-sign Mario, they are going to be a great team next year.

[JO_75]

Apparently the hold up in a new contract for Alex Smith is the contract length. The 49ers have a 3 year contract ready for him but Smith's representatives are looking for a 5 year contract.

[url="http://rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3119/alex-smith"]http://rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3119/alex-smith[/url]