Jason Lacanfora Reports Joe Flacco Seeking A Deal In The Range Of $15Mill A Yr

[ThePurpleWall]

[quote name='display name' timestamp='1330215951' post='1002954']
10-12 mil; 14 at the most.
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I agree with this,i cant see the Ravens giving Flacco 15 million a year.

[JO_75]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1330210549' post='1002845']

$9M - $10M a year with only a quarter of it guaranteed is insulting to Flacco!

I'd be pumped if he accepted that though haha
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Ok 7-8 Year $72 Million with $35 Million Guaranteed

[flynismo]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1330219464' post='1003032']

Ok 7-8 Year $72 Million with $35 Million Guaranteed
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I'd love that too!!

Flacco is prob going to end up getting 12 - 13M a year though

[codizzle]

Anything around 5yrs 60-65 million and I'll be happy.. Not as happy as joe but I'll be happy still

[darklight1216]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1330207071' post='1002784']
It's not our fault some stupid team overpaid that bum. Sorry, but they did. [b]There seriously needs to be a stupid penalty[/b] that teams are charged for making bone-headed decisions that affect the entire league in re-signing good, quality players but who would demand a higher premium because of some stupid team setting the market higher than it needs to be.

I mean, seriously? Haynesworth's contract? Kolb's? Adrian Peterson's? Such bone-headed moves really irritate me.
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The teams waste tens of millions of dollars, become the butt of many jokes, often have losing seasons, and it's not exactly unusual for the people involved to lose their jobs shortly thereafter (due the aforementioned occurences).

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='darklight1216' timestamp='1330220746' post='1003058']

The teams waste tens of millions of dollars, become the butt of many jokes, often have losing seasons, and it's not exactly unusual for the people involved to lose their jobs shortly thereafter (due the aforementioned occurences).
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That's good and all, but they affect other teams. If it was isolated to just their team, that would be just punishment. I want blood!

[adam713]

$15mil/year should be the absolute max we give him even assuming that it's prorated with signing bonus.

[CapoRocky]

I'm sure that the Ravens have a formula for signing him based on how much we have after the cuts are made before FA begins. There is no rush to sign Flacco or Rice. Flacco is under contract and Rice will get tagged. Grubbs and Webb must get signed too.

[Sizzlebshu]

[quote name='BabydollFlacco5' timestamp='1330201849' post='1002712']
[url="https://twitter.com/#!/JasonLaCanfora"]JasonLaCanfora[/url] Jason La Canfora




Joe Linta, agent for Joe Flacco, meeting w/BAL officials today to start contract talks. Flacco seeks deal in range $15M/year

I dont think thats too bad, Ravens are probobly around 12m
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very fair. Anything less than 15 mill would be a steal for the Ravens imo, but 15 is about perfect for Joe.

[ravensfan520]

[quote name='Jack Assateague' timestamp='1330204759' post='1002766']
Pay the man! Flacco made Brady look like a chump in that game..
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JOE played against one of the worst defenses in the NFL... Brady played against one of the best. Joe ranked in the middle of the pack I think at 15 for qb rating... he deserves middle tier money. He is better than Fitzpatrick or Kolb but don't let that fool ya. He may be the best qb we have had since McNair but that's not saying much... we have never had much in the qb dept. Its funny because if troy smith had not got sick Joe may have never have got to play(we will never know).

FLACCO is a good qb and we need to let him play out his contract and next year if he still wants an overpaid contract let him find one elsewhere. We may have a gem in Taylor we may not but Flacco is not elite and to be honest he doesn't deserve over 8 or 9 per. Hate me if you want but Baltimore plays defense thats why we win not because our offense does. And when Ray retires the team will belong to Suggs and Ngata not Flacco or Rice.

Lets just be honest here no one outside of Baltimore believes he is that good and a few from Baltimore as well so I don't think that another team is going to swoop in and outbid us when there a so many good qbs in the draft and a few free agents that will come cheaper. So most teams will focus on them.

[Ravenseconbeast]

[quote name='izvoodoo' timestamp='1330206862' post='1002782']
Isn't that about what Kevin Colb makes? It's hard to seriously say flacco deserves less.
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nope kolb makes 12.7m per year.

15million dollar range is in par with Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Big Ben(restructured),

If he were to get 15million dollar range, that is basically just under top 5 QB money.

[VJax83]

[quote name='ravensfan520' timestamp='1330227185' post='1003155']


JOE played against one of the worst defenses in the NFL... Brady played against one of the best. Joe ranked in the middle of the pack I think at 15 for qb rating... he deserves middle tier money. He is better than Fitzpatrick or Kolb but don't let that fool ya. He may be the best qb we have had since McNair but that's not saying much... we have never had much in the qb dept. Its funny because if troy smith had not got sick Joe may have never have got to play(we will never know).

FLACCO is a good qb and we need to let him play out his contract and next year if he still wants an overpaid contract let him find one elsewhere. We may have a gem in Taylor we may not but Flacco is not elite and to be honest he doesn't deserve over 8 or 9 per. Hate me if you want but Baltimore plays defense thats why we win not because our offense does. And when Ray retires the team will belong to Suggs and Ngata not Flacco or Rice.

Lets just be honest here no one outside of Baltimore believes he is that good and a few from Baltimore as well so I don't think that another team is going to swoop in and outbid us when there a so many food qbs in the draft and a few free agents that will come cheaper.
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Flacco is going to get "overpaid" and I'm so glad you and your other Flacco hater friends can't do anything about it LOL.

[jaege]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1330207071' post='1002784']
It's not our fault some stupid team overpaid that bum. Sorry, but they did. There seriously needs to be a stupid penalty that teams are charged for making bone-headed decisions that affect the entire league in re-signing good, quality players but who would demand a higher premium because of some stupid team setting the market higher than it needs to be.

I mean, seriously? Haynesworth's contract? Kolb's? Adrian Peterson's? Such bone-headed moves really irritate me.
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You took the words right out of my mouth. A couple of completely moronic teams allowed themselves to be bullied into overpaying a few guys and now we essentially have good players holding the other teams hostage.

[Purple Punishment]

15 is going to hurt us badly capwise isnt it?

[ravensfan520]

[quote name='VJax83' timestamp='1330229381' post='1003174']


Flacco is going to get "overpaid" and I'm so glad you and your other Flacco hater friends can't do anything about it LOL.
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I am guessing that you think that Fitzpatrick or Kolb deserves the money they got... because Fitzpatrick did beat the Pats and Kolb played maybe three or four good games so far in his career. Look I understand that everyone likes him but his qb rating is not even in the top ten... and much as we want to count wins and give them to the qb it is a team game and not all on one player unless you are Peyton Manning. Its great that we have gotten to the playoffs but he has had had only 2 good games in them... pats(horrible defense) and the year before against the chiefs. The rest of the time he was outmatched and we won with defense. Like we tend to do and hopefully can continue. So if we overpay lets hope it is worth signing 1 yr vets to fill in and hope to draft gems.

Just forget the wins because it is a TEAM sport and focus on what he does on the field... holds the ball to long can't throw over the middle or short routes takes to many sacks and has trouble with cover 2 defenses. And without the win column because again it is a team sport he falls in the middle of the pack in qb rating and stats... does that help his case of 15 per year... I am not a hater of Flacco I just don't think he is as good as most fans believe he is but I think we need to call his bluff and see if he can get better with Caldwell helping... if not then we didn't throw a truck load of money at him like the bills and cardinals did there qbs.

[omar586]

i think 10mil is the max the ravens will pay joe..

[1/28/01]

The year average on contracts means squat. Its all about the guarantee. I'll say $34M guaranteed.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='omar586' timestamp='1330232411' post='1003203']
i think 10mil is the max the ravens will pay joe..
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Well, if they think that (which they don't), Joe will be in a different uniform after this year.

[VJax83]

[quote name='omar586' timestamp='1330232411' post='1003203']
i think 10mil is the max the ravens will pay joe..
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Aaron Wilson and Jason LaCanfora both said that Joe is going to get a minimum of 13 mil a year.

[flynismo]

[quote name='Ravenseconbeast' timestamp='1330229006' post='1003169']

nope kolb makes 12.7m per year.

15million dollar range is in par with Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Big Ben(restructured),

If he were to get 15million dollar range, that is basically just under top 5 QB money.
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Well, most people say Flacco ranks in the top 8 - 10 QBs, so getting paid a little less than the top 5 QBs isn't unreasonable

[VJax83]

[quote name='ravensfan520' timestamp='1330232370' post='1003202']


I am guessing that you think that Fitzpatrick or Kolb deserves the money they got... because Fitzpatrick did beat the Pats and Kolb played maybe three or four good games so far in his career. Look I understand that everyone likes him but his qb rating is not even in the top ten... and much as we want to count wins and give them to the qb it is a team game and not all on one player unless you are Peyton Manning. Its great that we have gotten to the playoffs but he has had had only 2 good games in them... pats(horrible defense) and the year before against the chiefs. The rest of the time he was outmatched and we won with defense. Like we tend to do and hopefully can continue. So if we overpay lets hope it is worth signing 1 yr vets to fill in and hope to draft gems.

Just forget the wins because it is a TEAM sport and focus on what he does on the field... holds the ball to long can't throw over the middle or short routes takes to many sacks and has trouble with cover 2 defenses. And without the win column because again it is a team sport he falls in the middle of the pack in qb rating and stats... does that help his case of 15 per year... I am not a hater of Flacco I just don't think he is as good as most fans believe he is but I think we need to call his bluff and see if he can get better with Caldwell helping... if not then we didn't throw a truck load of money at him like the bills and cardinals did there qbs.
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It really doesn't matter what you think because they are already making good progress in contract negotiations. Joe won't get $15 mil but he'll get a minimum of $13 million so you can make any logical argument against Joe all you want but the man is going to get his contract before the season starts. The Ravens are committed to paying him longterm, it's not that easy finding a QB and the Ravens of all teams know that (remember Kyle Boller).

[flynismo]

[quote name='ravensfan520' timestamp='1330227185' post='1003155']
Lets just be honest here no one outside of Baltimore believes he is that good and a few from Baltimore as well so I don't think that another team is going to swoop in and outbid us when there a so many good qbs in the draft and a few free agents that will come cheaper. So most teams will focus on them.
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That's exactly what I said a few weeks ago...I thanked all the Flacco haters for their contributions, because Joe's rep will only give us leverage!

[flynismo]

[quote name='VJax83' timestamp='1330234561' post='1003219']
Aaron Wilson and Jason LaCanfora both said that Joe is going to get a minimum of 13 mil a year.
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Sounds about right. What people seem to forget is that even the owner came out and said that we will be paying him for his [u]anticipated [/u]performance, not just what he has already accomplished (which is a hell of a lot, btw)

[VJax83]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1330235290' post='1003226']



That's exactly what I said a few weeks ago...I thanked all the Flacco haters for their contributions, because Joe's rep will only give us leverage!
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The Flacco haters don't realize they pissed Steve Bisciotti off LOL, he was mad at the hate Joe was receiving. Maybe Joe will get $20 mil a year if the haters take their hate to an extreme level LOL, ok maybe he won't get that much LOL.

[ravensfan520]

[quote name='VJax83' timestamp='1330234938' post='1003225']


It really doesn't matter what you think because they are already making good progress in contract negotiations. Joe won't get $15 mil but he'll get a minimum of $13 million so you can make any logical argument against Joe all you want but the man is going to get his contract before the season starts. The Ravens are committed to paying him longterm, it's not that easy finding a QB and the Ravens of all teams know that (remember Kyle Boller).
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The same can be said about any team...the list goes on and on but Flacco is the same mold as Kyle but Flacco has weapons to utilize. Boller had Lewis and I don't remember if Heap was there and then who... Flacco each year has had weapons added to fit him... and we always say we need that one more... maybe he is the reason we are not getting over the hump...I think that fo is looking at what they had before and that what is scaring them and are forced to make a decision... 8-10 per year would be my Max... but I am not Ozzie so I don't matter on the subject. Just stating my opinion.

[ravensfan520]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1330235290' post='1003226']



That's exactly what I said a few weeks ago...I thanked all the Flacco haters for their contributions, because Joe's rep will only give us leverage!
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That's why we should wait on the contract ext. Make him play it out earn it and learn from Caldwell and it rumored that next years cap will be better and we can make a move then... if he does something like hold out of camp we move on with Taylor see his progression and then determine how much Flacco is or isn't needed.

[VJax83]

[quote name='ravensfan520' timestamp='1330236362' post='1003235']


The same can be said about any team...the list goes on and on but Flacco is the same mold as Kyle but Flacco has weapons to utilize. Boller had Lewis and I don't remember if Heap was there and then who... Flacco each year has had weapons added to fit him... and we always say we need that one more... maybe he is the reason we are not getting over the hump...I think that fo is looking at what they had before and that what is scaring them and are forced to make a decision... 8-10 per year would be my Max... but I am not Ozzie so I don't matter on the subject. Just stating my opinion.
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Joe's supporting cast hasn't always been there for him and if I recall you seem to be ok with bringing back the receiver (Lee Evans) who ruined Joe's chances of make a really big name for himself. You are right about one thing, you don't matter so what's the point of you making your argument since the man is going to get his money regardless of what you say. I know it's a free country and everyone is entilted to their opinion but in this case just bow out and don't even bother trying to make a case for why Joe shouldn't get paid, just accept defeat.

[flynismo]

[quote name='ravensfan520' timestamp='1330236663' post='1003237']
That's why we should wait on the contract ext. Make him play it out earn it and learn from Caldwell and it rumored that next years cap will be better and we can make a move then... if he does something like hold out of camp we move on with Taylor see his progression and then determine how much Flacco is or isn't needed.
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I think it's pretty clear already how much Flacco is needed...our FO wants to lock him up now without having to worry about the possibility of having to play Tyrod for a reason!

[berad]

[quote name='ravensfan520' timestamp='1330236663' post='1003237']
That's why we should wait on the contract ext. Make him play it out earn it and learn from Caldwell and it rumored that next years cap will be better and we can make a move then... if he does something like hold out of camp we move on with Taylor see his progression and then determine how much Flacco is or isn't needed.
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Why are we pretending like the Ravens aren't sold on Joe Flacco? They came out at the end of the year and said so. It's a foregone conclusion that, barring injury, he will be the QB of the Baltimore Ravens.

[EternalRavensDefense]

Man, I still can't get over the fact that ravensfan520 actually compared Flacco to Kyle Boller. I mean Really, Kyle Boller!

Kyle Boller has thrown for more interception than touchdowns and is considered one of the worst quarterbacks to have ever played football. Please, let get real here and use some common sense.

If you don't like Flacco and think he suck, that is fine. But to compare him to Kyle Boller is one of the dumbest thing I have heard.

Also, can we please get rid of this myth about Flacco having these great offensive weapons.

Since Flacco has been our quarterback from 2008, we have had recievers such as old Mason, injured Todd Heap, LJ Smith who never did anything, Kelly Washington, Demetrius Williams, TJ Housh, 30-31 years old Boldin, Mark Clayton, rookie Torrey Smith, Ed Dickson and Dennis Pitta.

Beside Ray Rice and Torrey Smith, the majority of our offensive recievers have been old and past their prime or injured.

The fact that Flacco has been able to throw for 80 touchdowns in his first four years while playing in a run first system with a horrible offensive cooridnator in Cam Cameron and some horrible receivers is amazing as far as I am concerened.