Texans Next Year

[Cville-Raven]

[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1329799558' post='998729']
Texans finally have all the pieces in place around Schaub,
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Besides A.J. and Foster, there isn't really anyone on that offense that scares me. Thats the main reason why I don't see the Texans being as good as everyone thinks their going to be. Sure they have an Elite defense, yet they have an offense with one good wideout and a bunch of receiving Tight-ends and honestly A.J. is like 30-31 and is a little past his prime.

[doc108]

[quote name='Cville-Raven' timestamp='1331558396' post='1018521']
Besides A.J. and Foster, there isn't really anyone on that offense that scares me. Thats the main reason why I don't see the Texans being as good as everyone thinks their going to be. Sure they have an Elite defense, yet they have an offense with one good wideout and a bunch of receiving Tight-ends and honestly A.J. is like 30-31 and is a little past his prime.
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Well that combo worked pretty dang well when we played you guys. Foster had what 132 yards against a top run defense that we scare me a lot especially if Andre had Matt Schaub throwing to him. If we had a QB that would stop looking at Andre then that game might've had a different outcome. Also Owen Daniels is very underrated and he shouldn't scare you but he should definitely be someone to look out for.

[Cville-Raven]

[quote name='doc108' timestamp='1331561161' post='1018544']

Well that combo worked pretty dang well when we played you guys. Foster had what 132 yards against a top run defense that we scare me a lot especially if Andre had Matt Schaub throwing to him. If we had a QB that would stop looking at Andre then that game might've had a different outcome. Also Owen Daniels is very underrated and he shouldn't scare you but he should definitely be someone to look out for.
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I'm not saying that they cant succeed with their offense, but if you have to rely on the two guys and those two guys only; well lets just say it wont end well especially in the playoffs.

[doc108]

[quote name='Cville-Raven' timestamp='1331568322' post='1018631']
I'm not saying that they cant succeed with their offense, but if you have to rely on the two guys and those two guys only; well lets just say it wont end well especially in the playoffs.
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Plus we have OD and Joel Dreesen who are two very good targets down the middle for Schaub along with Andre on the edge and hopefully a solid rookie or Manningham on the other side to stretch the field along with Foster who can run the ball, take screens or checkdown passes all the way on any play and a top 5 O-line to protect Schaub and open up holes for Foster. Sounds pretty potent to me.

[Cville-Raven]

[quote name='doc108' timestamp='1331568613' post='1018640']


Plus we have OD and Joel Dreesen who are two very good targets down the middle for Schaub along with Andre on the edge and hopefully a solid rookie or Manningham on the other side to stretch the field along with Foster who can run the ball, take screens or checkdown passes all the way on any play and a top 5 O-line to protect Schaub and open up holes for Foster. Sounds pretty potent to me.
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Now if you guys do get a good rookie or some FA WR then I change my mind, however I have to agree that O-line is solid.

[doc108]

[quote name='Cville-Raven' timestamp='1331568871' post='1018644']
If you guys get a good rookie or some FA then I would Obviously change my opinion, however I have to agree that O-line is solid.
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Yeah I was tremendously happy with their performance as a whole this year. You guys have one of the best defenses in the league (second behind us ) and they had a 132 yard rusher and shut down one of the best groups of pass rushers in the league.

[Ravenslifer]

Shaub returning would be huge. But remember, both times we played them Rice did nothing and Flacco got beaten like a pinata. I'd like to see what we could do against that defense with a better offensive line.

[doc108]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1331570925' post='1018687']
Shaub returning would be huge. But remember, both times we played them Rice did nothing and Flacco got beaten like a pinata. I'd like to see what we could do against that defense with a better offensive line.
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No disrespect or anything but you gotta get some work on your O-line I think other than Grubbs and Matt Birk you need to rebuild that O-line. Without an O-line I don't care if you have Gronkowski and Graham as your TE's Peterson Rice and Foster as your RB's Vonte Leach as your FB, And Andre Johnson Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, and Victor Cruz as your WR's, and Aaron Rodgers as your QB. Even with all that you will fail if you have a bad O-line.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='doc108' timestamp='1331572505' post='1018702']

No disrespect or anything but you gotta get some work on your O-line I think other than Grubbs and Matt Birk you need to rebuild that O-line. Without an O-line I don't care if you have Gronkowski and Graham as your TE's Peterson Rice and Foster as your RB's Vonte Leach as your FB, And Andre Johnson Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, and Victor Cruz as your WR's, and Aaron Rodgers as your QB. Even with all that you will fail if you have a bad O-line.
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Totally agree. We got by last year, but I don't think we could again with our current o-line and a healthy Shaub. Of course, our front office has said that the offensive line is the biggest priority in the offseason, so hopefully things get done.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='doc108' timestamp='1331572505' post='1018702']

No disrespect or anything but you gotta get some work on your O-line I think other than Grubbs and Matt Birk you need to rebuild that O-line. Without an O-line I don't care if you have Gronkowski and Graham as your TE's Peterson Rice and Foster as your RB's Vonte Leach as your FB, And Andre Johnson Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, and Victor Cruz as your WR's, and Aaron Rodgers as your QB. Even with all that you will fail if you have a bad O-line.
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You forgot Marshall Yanda, hes a top five guard in the league, hes our best lineman, id stroke birk of that list...

[doc108]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1331574782' post='1018723']
You forgot Marshall Yanda, hes a top five guard in the league, hes our best lineman, id stroke birk of that list...
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Eh I don't know a whole lot about your teams. Never heard of Yanda and have only heard about Grubbs and Birk being good. Feel free to correct my list as I'm sure you know 10x as much as I do about your team.

[redrum52]

People need to realize another weapon the Texans have is the best o line in the game. Doesn't matter who comes after Aj, Daniels and Foster when you have that kind of time in the pocket. The fact that we knew they were going to run and they still did it doesn't make me feel too good about the next time we play them with a healthy Schaub. They have a ferocious front 7 and very capable secondary. I could see easily see us playing em twice next year, reg season and Afc championship.

[redrum52]

[quote name='doc108' timestamp='1331575496' post='1018732']


Eh I don't know a whole lot about your teams. Never heard of Yanda and have only heard about Grubbs and Birk being good. Feel free to correct my list as I'm sure you know 10x as much as I do about your team.
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You probably know Yanda, he was the one JJ Watt was constantly blowing by in the divisional round on the right side.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='redrum52' timestamp='1331575718' post='1018738']
You probably know Yanda, he was the one JJ Watt was constantly blowing by in the divisional round on the right side.
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yea him and the rest off our line.. Yanda let up one sack last year iirc, he was in the pro bowl.. hes our best lineman

[doc108]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1331576611' post='1018754']
yea him and the rest off our line.. Yanda let up one sack last year iirc, he was in the pro bowl.. hes our best lineman
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What does he play right guard or tackle

[redrum52]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1331576611' post='1018754']

yea him and the rest off our line.. Yanda let up one sack last year iirc, he was in the pro bowl.. hes our best lineman
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This is no knock on Yanda, he was injured and JJ had just done the same to the Bengals the week prior and their o line isn't to bad either. Watt is going to be a beast.

[doc108]

[quote name='redrum52' timestamp='1331577541' post='1018776']
This is no knock on Yanda, he was injured and JJ had just done the same to the Bengals the week prior and their o line isn't to bad either. [b]Watt is going to be a beast.[/b]
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Why thank you. We like to call him MegaWatt on our boards.

[edreed2o]

I can see thw texans and bengals having good years. Bengals most likely are gonna get better and better unfortunately..

[Yatagarasu]

Yeah Yanda's late season rib injury really did affected him. But got to give credit that Yanda is a tough guy and will give his all, even at 50% healthy.

[Yatagarasu]

QB: Schaub Check
RB: Foster & Tate Check
WR: #1 Andre Check
TE: Owens Check
O-Line: Duane Brown, Guards, Maybe (Need Center and RT)
D-Line Bookends Check (Maybe a Cherry on top with a NT)
Pass Rushers: Barwin and Reed Check
LB: Ryan & Cushing Check
CB: #1 Joseph and #2 Jackson Check
S: Manning & Quin Check

ST: (Need Kicker)

After years of being miserable, they finally built a formidable team with few holes. In the draft they can bolster that offense with blockers or playmakers.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='Corvus Amplus' timestamp='1331822192' post='1022717']
QB: Schaub Check
RB: Foster & Tate Check
WR: #1 Andre Check
TE: Owens Check
O-Line: Duane Brown, Guards, Maybe (Need Center and RT)
D-Line Bookends Check (Maybe a Cherry on top with a NT)
Pass Rushers: Barwin and Reed Check
LB: Ryan & Cushing Check
CB: #1 Joseph and #2 Jackson Check
S: Manning & Quin Check

ST: (Need Kicker)

After years of being miserable, they finally built a formidable team with few holes. In the draft they can bolster that offense with blockers or playmakers.
[/quote]three of their 5 starters on oline are fas. One of them was cut so he def ain't back, if they lose the other too, LG and c, they could be in trouble

[doc108]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1331823115' post='1022753']
three of their 5 starters on oline are fas. One of them was cut so he def ain't back, if they lose the other too, LG and c, they could be in trouble
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Starting to look like we are going to get the two FA's back. We have enough money and with the TITans focusing on PM18 we don't really have a competitor for him.

[arnie_uk]

Green bay had Myers in for a visit did they not? im really realy surprised we didnt look at him, what was/is his contract shaping up to be like? we just musnt be able to afford him

[doc108]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1331846493' post='1023525']
Green bay had Myers in for a visit did they not? im really realy surprised we didnt look at him, what was/is his contract shaping up to be like? we just musnt be able to afford him
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They talked to him illegally at the combine but other than that no talks meeting or even Packers interest has been reported.

[redrum52]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1331823115' post='1022753']
three of their 5 starters on oline are fas. One of them was cut so he def ain't back, if they lose the other too, LG and c, they could be in trouble
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I could be wrong but didn't they cut Ryans?

[flynismo]

[quote name='redrum52' timestamp='1331575718' post='1018738']
You probably know Yanda, he was the one JJ Watt was constantly blowing by in the divisional round on the right side.
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That would have been Oher....he was JJ's beyotch the entire game. There were a couple plays Oher let multiple guys blow right past him.

[doc108]

[quote name='redrum52' timestamp='1331853802' post='1023690']
I could be wrong but didn't they cut Ryans?
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No but he restructured I believe.

[Irish Raven]

Their Oline was incredible, a main reason for their succuss

The center and right guard have still to be signed, the RT is gone

They are making changes to a very successful unit, they better know what they are doing

[doc108]

[quote name='Irish Raven' timestamp='1331894076' post='1023947']Their Oline was incredible, a main reason for their succuss

The center and right guard have still to be signed, the RT is gone

They are making changes to a very successful unit, they better know what they are doing[/quote]

Got Myers back

[The Raven]

[quote name='doc108' timestamp='1331575496' post='1018732']

Eh I don't know a whole lot about your teams. Never heard of Yanda and have only heard about Grubbs and Birk being good. Feel free to correct my list as I'm sure you know 10x as much as I do about your team.
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Yanda was a probowler. Grubbs was first listed as an alternate. Yanda also made first team All Pro. Yanda is our best lineman by far in my opinion. His game against "MegaWatt" was quite the anomaly, and surely related to his injuries.

Mega Watt is a great nickname might I add.