Coach Comment

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='FinNasty' post='76610' date='Oct 16 2008, 01:06 PM']Hes goign to be sticking his foot up Flaco's behind all game long...

3 sacks?[/quote]

If that's the case, I hope he gets an Unsportsmanlike Conduct penalty hahaha

[PuRock]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' post='76608' date='Oct 16 2008, 01:03 PM']I am waiting for Joey Porter to stick his foot in his mouth lol...[/quote]

Or maybe Joey Porter will just let his pittbulls to kill a minature horse again. One of the best stories of all-time.

Just incase you never saw:
[url="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06264/723752-54.stm"]http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06264/723752-54.stm[/url]

[FinNasty]

[quote name='neepo13' post='76617' date='Oct 16 2008, 01:48 PM']He has never played all 16 games in a season.[/quote]

His rookie year, he missed one game in week 16. However, we had just been mathimatically eliminated from the playoffs, and both Saban and Ronnie said that if the game was important, he could play. But they just held him out to not to risk anything to their fresh #2 overall pick... and at the time, we were really trying to showcase Ricky Williams for a trade (Broncos were most interested).

Ricky had 26 carries for 172 yards and a TD in that game. Mission accomplished... lol


Ronnie could have played in that game... we just didnt need him to. And since we had just given him a lot of money for the #2 pick, we were going to risk anything. Put Ricky out there and have him raise his draft pick worth.


(Then of course, right before we could trade him in the offseason, he failed a drug test... )



Then in his second year, his finger got stuck in a facemask and it broke a bone in his main hand. That wasnt an injury that was from the pounding of being an NFL RB, lol. Just some weird fluke.

And then he tore his ACL last year... not while he was running the ball... but while trying to tackle Asante Samuel on an INT...



The ACL was the first real injury hes had of any significance. And that does suck... but again it wasnt from taking the pounding as a RB. And he has healed miraculously from it, recovering in about 8 months! He hurt it in November last year. He didnt get the surgery until December. He has got to be a ridiculous athlete to be able to do that.

[FinNasty]

[quote name='Raven07' post='76642' date='Oct 16 2008, 03:52 PM']lol wellllllllllllllllllllll if you take a look at the opposition we've faced thus far this season, 2 out of 3 contests, at some point during the game, their running back has gotten injured. Its something that a few of us have noticed on here, like we were back in the old days remember? [b]but lets pray for a safe non-injury game haha.[/b][/quote]
Agreed!

If you hurt my Ronnie... I'm going to hurt you!

[rayvenfan_52]

[quote name='FinNasty' post='76683' date='Oct 16 2008, 02:08 PM']Agreed!

If you hurt my Ronnie... I'm going to hurt you! [/quote]

Its gonna be pretty hard for Ray Lewis not to hurt Ronnie Brown. Ray comes up the middle pretty good like a RB and hits the flats pretty fast.

You better hope Ronnie knows where Rays at the whole time or he might get lost in transition.

[march4superbowl]

Ronnie(RB) won't know what hit him but lets just hope he stays healthy cause we still have alot of season left. I just got a feelin they wont have much success with thier offensive trickory. cause with thier tricks we got some nice treats.(#1 Defense)

[ravensgirlx88]

I seriously dont think coach meant any harm by it.. but im hearing that the dolphins actually think their D will "rape" our offense.. are they freakin serious?!!? I mean i know we dont look THAT great but I've watched the dolphins play.. they look better yea.. but nothing spectacular and not lookin much better than the bengals.. I dont think we will take a 4 game loss in Miami thats for sure!!!

[#1 D]

[quote name='ravensgirlx88' post='76692' date='Oct 16 2008, 08:04 PM']I seriously dont think coach meant any harm by it.. but im hearing that the dolphins actually think their D will "rape" our offense.. are they freakin serious?!!? I mean i know we dont look THAT great but I've watched the dolphins play.. they look better yea.. but nothing spectacular and not lookin much better than the bengals.. I dont think we will take a 4 game loss in Miami thats for sure!!![/quote]
Yeah they are just trying to mix it up and have a "wildcat" sort of offense where they do creative and unpredictable plays and try to find a hole in the defense. So far it looks successful for them. The Ravens offense is better than that. i guess it'll just take time to develop.

[huck1974]

I think that the media was prying our players for a response. Its another issue of making news when there is none.

[#1 D]

[quote name='huck1974' post='76708' date='Oct 16 2008, 09:26 PM']I think that the media was prying our players for a response. [b]Its another issue of making news when there is none.[/quote][/b]
in a way, that's kinda what they get paid to do...

[PuRock]

[quote name='ravensgirlx88' post='76692' date='Oct 16 2008, 08:04 PM']I seriously dont think coach meant any harm by it.. but im hearing that the dolphins actually think their D will "rape" our offense.. are they freakin serious?!!? I mean i know we dont look THAT great but I've watched the dolphins play.. they look better yea.. but nothing spectacular and not lookin much better than the bengals.. I dont think we will take a 4 game loss in Miami thats for sure!!![/quote]

He didn't. Just another one of the situations where something said was taken out of context. It's sort of hard to say everybody did well on a 1-15 team. Harbaugh was just supporting his Offensive coordinator, if he had a second chance, I bet he'd rephrase it.

[akacrow]

Either you come to play or you don't. Fired up? If a player is not fired up every stinking time he steps on the field then go sit on some pine and let men play!

Joey Porter was owned consistently by J. Lew. McGahee and McClain bring just as much to the field.

The comment about Porter finally being in position. was in a 4/3??? The Steelers have been playing a 34 defense every year dick lebeau has been DC. He is known for inventing the Fire Zone defense which is based out of the 34.

[FinNasty]

[quote name='akacrow' post='76751' date='Oct 16 2008, 11:54 PM']Either you come to play or you don't. Fired up? If a player is not fired up every stinking time he steps on the field then go sit on some pine and let men play!

Joey Porter was owned consistently by J. Lew. McGahee and McClain bring just as much to the field.

[b]The comment about Porter finally being in position. was in a 4/3??? The Steelers have been playing a 34 defense every year dick lebeau has been DC. He is known for inventing the Fire Zone defense which is based out of the 34.[/b][/quote]
Exactly...


But we signed him last year, telling him he would be playing 3-4 OLB like he did in Pitt... and instead... Capers mysteriously changed the beautiful 3-4 defense that Saban had installed the previous 2 years and we ended up running a 4-3... where we played Porter at 43 SOLB. He really under performed last season, especially considering the money we gave him. And thats because we were using him completely out of position.

Now that hes back at his real position in our new 3-4 defense... he is .5 off the lead league in sacks...

[akacrow]

[quote name='FinNasty' post='76753' date='Oct 17 2008, 12:13 AM']Exactly...


But we signed him last year, telling him he would be playing 3-4 OLB like he did in Pitt... and instead... Capers mysteriously changed the beautiful 3-4 defense that Saban had installed the previous 2 years and we ended up running a 4-3... where we played Porter at 43 SOLB. He really under performed last season, especially considering the money we gave him. And thats because we were using him completely out of position.

Now that hes back at his real position in our new 3-4 defense... he is .5 off the lead league in sacks...[/quote]

Ah got ya thought you were referring to Pitts defense. My bad.

[macbrak]

Harbaugh was trying not to make one mistake and made another, boo-hoo. Insult your proven offensive coordinator or the other team who went 1-15, half of which aren't on the team anymore.

FYI, our D eats RBs for breakfeast:

see Addai, Mendenhall, whoever the steellers #3 was, titans RB. all left the game and missed/questionable the week after. All on legal hits. We got slaughtered last game and all last year but still haven't let up a 100yd rush game.

edit: Jeffy can't spell...

[ravensgirlx88]

[quote name='PuRock' post='76726' date='Oct 16 2008, 09:27 PM']He didn't. Just another one of the situations where something said was taken out of context. It's sort of hard to say everybody did well on a 1-15 team. Harbaugh was just supporting his Offensive coordinator, if he had a second chance, I bet he'd rephrase it.[/quote]
I honestly don't think it sounds THAT bad.. i mean coach cam DIDNT have a whole lot to work with on the team..

[FinNasty]

[quote name='macbrak' post='76776' date='Oct 17 2008, 10:26 AM']Harbaugh was trying not to make one mistake and made another, boo-hoo. Insult your proven offensive coordinator or the other team who went 1-15, half of which aren't on the team anymore.

FYI, our D eats RBs for breakfeast:

see Addai, Mendenhall, whoever the steellers #3 was, titans RB. all left the game and missed/questionable the week after. All on legal hits. We got slaughtered last game and all last year but still haven't let up a 100yd rush game.

edit: Jeffy can't spell...[/quote]

Agreed about your run D. Its stout as hell. Running is going to be very hard for us this weekend... and it will be the key to whether we can win this game.

On the other side of the equation... your defense hasnt seen a RB like Ronnie , or a tandum like Ronnie and Ricky, so far this season. It will be a nice test for your defense as well.

I expect that to probably be the biggest matchup of his game. If we can establish a solid running game against you guys, I think we win with the vet QB and attacking your rookie QB.

If we cant run the ball, its going to be a lot of 3rd and longs for our offense... and we may be the worst 3rd and long team in the league. If its like that for us, I think theres a good chance you can come away with the win...

[PuRock]

[quote name='FinNasty' post='76792' date='Oct 17 2008, 01:17 PM']Agreed about your run D. Its stout as hell. Running is going to be very hard for us this weekend... and it will be the key to whether we can win this game.

On the other side of the equation... your defense hasnt seen a RB like Ronnie , or a tandum like Ronnie and Ricky, so far this season. It will be a nice test for your defense as well.

I expect that to probably be the biggest matchup of his game. If we can establish a solid running game against you guys, I think we win with the vet QB and attacking your rookie QB.

If we cant run the ball, its going to be a lot of 3rd and longs for our offense... and we may be the worst 3rd and long team in the league. If its like that for us, I think theres a good chance you can come away with the win...[/quote]

Or you can flip it around. The Dolphins have yet to face a top ten defense yet this year. So the test will be on them. IMO the Jets and Arizona defenses are a bit worse than their statistical position would state.

New York Jets - #11
Arizona - #14
New England - #15
San Diego - #28
Houston - #23

We at least faced a tandem of Chris Johnson and Lendale White. Chris Johnson has been a stud this year, but not against us.If the key to win this game for the Dolphins, is establishing the run game. Then it will be an easy notch in the victory column. You can't have the key to the game as the run game against us, it's not possible. It's not just this season. The Ravens have 24 consecutive games of holding rushers under 100 yards. We have stopped great rushers year in and year out.

The Key for the Dolphins in winning this game is field position, and exploited our injured secondary.

In case you don't know. The Ravens are still #1 in total Defense, #1 in Rush defense and #1 in pass defense.

[#1 D]

[quote name='PuRock' post='76797' date='Oct 17 2008, 01:30 PM']Or you can flip it around. The Dolphins have yet to face a top ten defense yet this year. So the test will be on them. IMO the Jets and Arizona defenses are a bit worse than their statistical position would state.

New York Jets - #11
Arizona - #14
New England - #15
San Diego - #28
Houston - #23

We at least faced a tandem of Chris Johnson and Lendale White. Chris Johnson has been a stud this year, but not against us.If the key to win this game for the Dolphins, is establishing the run game. Then it will be an easy notch in the victory column. You can't have the key to the game as the run game against us, it's not possible. It's not just this season. The Ravens have 24 consecutive games of holding rushers under 100 yards. We have stopped great rushers year in and year out.

The Key for the Dolphins in winning this game is field position, and exploited our injured secondary.

In case you don't know. The Ravens are still #1 in total Defense, #1 in Rush defense and #1 in pass defense.[/quote]
True...But remember, Chad Pennington is a solid QB, he can get the job done and keep us guessing...but i hope for and expect a win from this one...

[PuRock]

[quote name='#1 D' post='76800' date='Oct 17 2008, 01:41 PM']True...But remember, Chad Pennington is a solid QB, he can get the job done and keep us guessing...but i hope for and expect a win from this one... [/quote]

That's what I'm saying. The key for the Dolphins in winning this game, will rely on how Pennington does against our secondary. I know he's very capable of putting together long drives. I'm not denying that Pennington can get it done.

Our rush defense is not a weakness at all. If anything our Pass D is.

[FinNasty]

[quote name='PuRock' post='76797' date='Oct 17 2008, 01:30 PM']Or you can flip it around. The Dolphins have yet to face a top ten defense yet this year. So the test will be on them. IMO the Jets and Arizona defenses are a bit worse than their statistical position would state.

New York Jets - #11
Arizona - #14
New England - #15
San Diego - #28
Houston - #23

We at least faced a tandem of Chris Johnson and Lendale White. Chris Johnson has been a stud this year, but not against us.If the key to win this game for the Dolphins, is establishing the run game. Then it will be an easy notch in the victory column. You can't have the key to the game as the run game against us, it's not possible. It's not just this season. The Ravens have 24 consecutive games of holding rushers under 100 yards. We have stopped great rushers year in and year out.

The Key for the Dolphins in winning this game is field position, and exploited our injured secondary.

In case you don't know. The Ravens are still #1 in total Defense, #1 in Rush defense and #1 in pass defense.[/quote]

Agreed on all points. CJ and White arent like Ronnie and Ricky though. Ronnie is what you would get if you combined CJ and White, lol. And Ricky is Ricky.


We need to establish the ground game... even if its in an unconventional manner via the Wildcat. I'm very interested to see what new wrinkle will have for you this week. We have a new one every week, and they are going to need a very good one against your D.



On a bight note for the Fins... word on the street is that Ginn will be getting to return at least some of the kicks this week. That could hopefully pay off in the field position game...

[neepo13]

[quote name='PuRock' post='76797' date='Oct 17 2008, 01:30 PM']Or you can flip it around. The Dolphins have yet to face a top ten defense yet this year. So the test will be on them. IMO the Jets and Arizona defenses are a bit worse than their statistical position would state.

New York Jets - #11
Arizona - #14
New England - #15
San Diego - #28
Houston - #23

We at least faced a tandem of Chris Johnson and Lendale White. Chris Johnson has been a stud this year, but not against us.If the key to win this game for the Dolphins, is establishing the run game. Then it will be an easy notch in the victory column. You can't have the key to the game as the run game against us, it's not possible. It's not just this season. The Ravens have 24 consecutive games of holding rushers under 100 yards. We have stopped great rushers year in and year out.

The Key for the Dolphins in winning this game is field position, and exploited our injured secondary.

[b]In case you don't know. The Ravens are still #1 in total Defense, #1 in Rush defense and #1 in pass defense.[/b][/quote]

Seriously? Even after we got smacked by the Colts? AMAZING!

[PuRock]

[quote name='FinNasty' post='76820' date='Oct 17 2008, 02:33 PM']On a bight note for the Fins... word on the street is that Ginn will be getting to return at least some of the kicks this week. That could hopefully pay off in the field position game...[/quote]

Why did Ginn stop recieving kicks in the first place? Was he injured.

I agree. I like Ronnie Brown over the Rookie Chris Johnson & Lendale White. I might change my mind on Chris Johnson after his rookie season. He's fast.

The thing I am most worried is Ronnie Brown catching balls in the short passing game. I have been worried about this before with the Ravens. I think Ronnie can do more danger that way, than in the straight up run department against us. He needs a chance to get past the front seven to really do damage.

[FinNasty]

[quote name='PuRock' post='76823' date='Oct 17 2008, 02:40 PM']Why did Ginn stop recieving kicks in the first place? Was he injured.

I agree. I like Ronnie Brown over the Rookie Chris Johnson & Lendale White. I might change my mind on Chris Johnson after his rookie season. He's fast.

The thing I am most worried is Ronnie Brown catching balls in the short passing game. I have been worried about this before with the Ravens. I think Ronnie can do more danger that way, than in the straight up run department against us. He needs a chance to get past the front seven to really do damage.[/quote]

No one knows why Ginn stopped receiving kicks. He was doing it in the beginning of preseason and even took one to the house... and then all of a sudden they started playing Bess there. It was really weird... and every Fin fan has hated it...

Oh, and dont think I was knocking CJ. That kid is going to be a stud. I went to school at UCF and we faced off against CJ and ECU every year. That kid destroyed us... but Kevin Smith would do them right back...


And I HOPE we use Ronnie more in the short passing game. We havent used him much at all in the passing game, especially on screens which he is very good at. It may be that they dont want to put too much on his plate too soon after the knee injury, but he can do serious damage in the passing game... and we need that extra element in our offense, especially since Pennington is so effective at that range.

Ronnie did catch a 40 yard wheel route last week though, so hopefully there more where that came from!

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='PuRock' post='76657' date='Oct 16 2008, 04:35 PM']Or maybe Joey Porter will just let his pittbulls to kill a minature horse again. One of the best stories of all-time.

Just incase you never saw:
[url="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06264/723752-54.stm"]http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06264/723752-54.stm[/url][/quote]

Well, the dogs are NOT Pit Bulls, they are Mastiffs, which are 10x bigger lol... just because you read a story about dogs attacking something doesn't mean they are automatically Pits! Stop discriminating!

[PuRock]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' post='76837' date='Oct 17 2008, 03:21 PM']Well, the dogs are NOT Pit Bulls, they are Mastiffs, which are 10x bigger lol... just because you read a story about dogs attacking something doesn't mean they are automatically Pits! Stop discriminating! [/quote]

I believe one was a pit bull and one was a mastiff.

[Sub-Zero]

it says a Pitbull and a Mastiff

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='PuRock' post='76843' date='Oct 17 2008, 03:33 PM']I believe one was a pit bull and one was a mastiff.[/quote]

Haha, you are correct, Pu, but I still suspect the Mastiff was the ring leader

[PuRock]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' post='76846' date='Oct 17 2008, 03:37 PM']Haha, you are correct, Pu, but I still suspect the Mastiff was the ring leader [/quote]

Allright, I'll give you that one.

[rayvenfan_52]

[quote name='FinNasty' post='76836' date='Oct 17 2008, 10:17 AM']No one knows why Ginn stopped receiving kicks. He was doing it in the beginning of preseason and even took one to the house... and then all of a sudden they started playing Bess there. It was really weird... and every Fin fan has hated it...

Oh, and dont think I was knocking CJ. That kid is going to be a stud. I went to school at UCF and we faced off against CJ and ECU every year. That kid destroyed us... but Kevin Smith would do them right back...


And I HOPE we use Ronnie more in the short passing game. We havent used him much at all in the passing game, especially on screens which he is very good at. It may be that they dont want to put too much on his plate too soon after the knee injury, but he can do serious damage in the passing game... and we need that extra element in our offense, especially since Pennington is so effective at that range.

Ronnie did catch a 40 yard wheel route last week though, so hopefully there more where that came from! [/quote]

I think the only real damage your guys offense could do to the Ravens is just pass.

Our secondary can get blown outta the water when 2-3 people are missing on our starting lineup. For instance Rolle, Washington & Landry. When Ed Reed has to help cover someone with their guy it takes away his ball hawking ability. McAllister will do what he does unless someone really gets into his head. Not with words but with their skills and ability like Marvin Harrison.

1 Thing no team has been able to do against us is run the ball. There have been a few breakout runs but it barely ever happens 3 times. 2 is the number teams will get long runs past 13+ yards. Anything else will result in either loss, no gain or 1-4 yards max.

Another thing you should be worried about is your Ronnie. Our D has gotten through the Colts OL in the 1st quarter before they took our defense out of its gameplan and made em protect against the pass.

Heres a good way of looking at the game

Ravens
1. Establish a run game
2. Stopping the passing game for the fins

Dolphins
1. Stopping the Run
2. Exploiting the Ravens secondary through Leonard, Walker & Ivy

ST for both
Good field position will result in more FGs for either team

Those to me are the key factors in winning the game for either team. Im sorry for saying this one FinNasty but no team will run period. Thats just a given Ravens thing. A given Dolphins thing is trickery. Which has done pretty good for them in their last games wether they ended up in a L or W. It just makes good teams look stupid.