Rutgers Rb Coach To Join Ravens As Assistant St Coordinator

[Yatagarasu]

I like how we get quality coaches to work for us.

[jazz1988]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1329272011' post='994256']

At least we have a QB coach to make sure he doesn't keep screwing with our quarterback's head. I don't know, I'm kinda hoping in the darkest corner of my mind that Flacco has a super season last year but the offense as a whole sucks. Then you get the following: Flacco + Zorn = good Flacco, Flacco + Caldwell = good Flacco, Flacco plus Cam = inconsistent Flacco, offense + Cam = inconsistent offense. Maybe then somebody will say "Hey, maybe Cam is the problem after all."
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Flacco was inconsistent even with Zorn as his quarterback coach. The Ravens was ranked 15 in league( would had ranked higher if wideouts/tighends caught the ball consistently) so how does that mean they suck? I dont understand how any one could have had high exectation for the ravens offense last year to be this super offense when most of Joe Flacco weapons were inexperienced or rookies. I know there were situation where the ravens could had improve at play calling but honestly the offense was still good.

I'm aware Cam calls bad plays but to say he is the overall problem on offense is not the case . I do believe the play calling needs to be improve by cam but the players have to get better as well

[Guest RBates]

ASST? He can take Rosburgs job right now. He is terrible.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='jazz1988' timestamp='1329329709' post='994622']


Flacco was [b]inconsistent even with Zorn as his quarterback coach[/b]. The Ravens was ranked 15 in league( would had ranked higher if wideouts/tighends caught the ball consistently) so how does that mean they suck? I dont understand how any one could have had high exectation for the ravens offense last year to be this super offense when most of Joe Flacco weapons were inexperienced or rookies. I know there were situation where the ravens could had improve at play calling but honestly the offense was still good.

I'm aware Cam calls bad plays but to say he is the overall problem on offense is not the case . I do believe the play calling needs to be improve by cam but the players have to get better as well
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Yep, because finishing the last 11 weeks of 2010 with the second-highest quarterback rating in the league behind Brady, and posting 8 games with a QB rating of 107 or better, is so inconsistent.

[The Raven]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1329330390' post='994636']
ASST? He can take Rosburgs job right now. He is terrible.
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The coverage teams have been [b]great[/b] til this year, I don't see how its Jerry's fault. Especially since STs is relatively simple. From a relative standpoint, there isn't that much to coordinate. Special teams is pretty simple, run, track the ball carrier, beat the block, break down, and kill him. There's not much a coach can do to simplify that.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1329351116' post='995033']

The coverage teams have been [b]great[/b] til this year, I don't see how its Jerry's fault. Especially since STs is relatively simple. From a relative standpoint, there isn't that much to coordinate. Special teams is pretty simple, run, track the ball carrier, beat the block, break down, and kill him. There's not much a coach can do to simplify that.
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Rosburg is terrible though. To put David back out there after two fumbles.......smh Then coverage on kickoff returns is terrible. Cundiff stinking it up all season. We need a new special teams coach. Bring in Matt Stover to coach.....lol

[jazz1988]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1329346316' post='994943']

Yep, because finishing the last 11 weeks of 2010 with the second-highest quarterback rating in the league behind Brady, and posting 8 games with a QB rating of 107 or better, is so inconsistent.
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smh Ozzie Newsome himself even said Joe Flacco was inconsistent in 2010 before 2011 seasons started.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='jazz1988' timestamp='1329405819' post='995389']


smh Ozzie Newsome himself even said Joe Flacco was inconsistent in 2010 before 2011 seasons started.
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No, he said after the 2011 season that "I've seen a guy who can be inconsistent." Kindly show me a link to where Ozzie said after the 2010 season Flacco was inconsistent.

[jazz1988]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1329412120' post='995506']

No, he said after the 2011 season that "I've seen a guy who can be inconsistent." Kindly show me a link to where Ozzie said after the 2010 season Flacco was inconsistent.
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If Ozzie said I seen a guy who can be inconsistent then what you think he saying when he said that? I'm not saying Flacco is terrible quarterback because he's a good quarterback but there were times where he was inconsistent

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='jazz1988' timestamp='1329413130' post='995518']


If Ozzie said I seen a guy who can be inconsistent then what you think he saying when he said that? I'm not saying Flacco is terrible quarterback because he's a good quarterback but there were times where he was inconsistent
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You said "2010". In 2010, Flacco was one of the most consistent quarterbacks in the league the last 10 weeks of the season. Over the course of his career, Flacco has been consistent, except for this year. His completion percentage, quarterback rating, and TD-INT ratio have gone up every year except this one. Now, in a lock-out year when a lot of young quarterbacks i.e. Bradford, Freeman, Sanchez, have struggled, so has Joe, and now all of a sudden he's never been a consistent quarterback? Of course this year he was inconsistent, but you are making a blanket statement that Flacco has been [i]inconsistent[/i] his entire career, which is factually untrue. Has he struggled against specific teams i.e. Cinci and Pittsburgh, yes, but his first three years in the league I'd say he was a consistent quarterback.

There is a difference between saying "Joe Flacco had an inconsistent 2011 season" and "Joe Flacco is an inconsistent quarterback." One implies that it's a career-long theme, and that is not the case.

[jazz1988]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1329413772' post='995530']

You said "2010". In 2010, Flacco was one of the most consistent quarterbacks in the league the last 10 weeks of the season. Over the course of his career, Flacco has been consistent, except for this year. His completion percentage, quarterback rating, and TD-INT ratio have gone up every year except this one. Now, in a lock-out year when a lot of young quarterbacks i.e. Bradford, Freeman, Sanchez, have struggled, so has Joe, and now all of a sudden he's never been a consistent quarterback? Of course this year he was inconsistent, but you are making a blanket statement that Flacco has been [i]inconsistent[/i] his entire career, which is factually untrue. Has he struggled against specific teams i.e. Cinci and Pittsburgh, yes, but his first three years in the league I'd say he was a consistent quarterback.

There is a difference between saying "Joe Flacco had an inconsistent 2011 season" and "Joe Flacco is an inconsistent quarterback." One implies that it's a career-long theme, and that is not the case.
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First of all where do i ever say Flacco was a inconsistent quarterback for his entire career? My main focus was on 2010. Hey if you think im saying Flacco has never been a consistent quarterback then continue to think that. I will say again Flacco is good quarterback but he can be inconsistent at times that a big difference from saying Flacco is a good quarterback but he sure is inconsistent all the time.

Matter of fact you cant be consider a good quarterback if your inconsistency is bigger than your consistency.

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1329403706' post='995368']

Rosburg is terrible though. To put David back out there after two fumbles.......smh Then coverage on kickoff returns is terrible. Cundiff stinking it up all season. We need a new special teams coach. Bring in Matt Stover to coach.....lol
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Cundiff's misses & the coverage wasn't his fault. Putting David back in the game was a sign of confidence. I would think less of Rosburg if he made an emotional decision like take him out of the game. He tried to keep David's confidence by sticking with & having faith in his player. Nothing wrong with that. When David came back he almost took that kick return to the house. If he didn't get injured I honestly think he would have.

As for the coverage, I mean how complicated is it? Special teams doesn't have crazy schemes like defense. There is a psychological aspect but outside of that it's mostly execution. The players didn't execute as they should. That's why Special Teams sucked. It's not like someone tried an onside kick or anything overly complicated.

My only complaint with Rosburg is he doesn't have great schemes when we return the ball. His receiving schemes aren't very complicated.

[Sizzlebshu]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1329420239' post='995632']
Cundiff's misses & the coverage wasn't his fault. Putting David back in the game was a sign of confidence. I would think less of Rosburg if he made an emotional decision like take him out of the game. He tried to keep David's confidence by sticking with & having faith in his player. Nothing wrong with that. When David came back he almost took that kick return to the house. If he didn't get injured I honestly think he would have.

As for the coverage, I mean how complicated is it? Special teams doesn't have crazy schemes like defense. There is a psychological aspect but outside of that it's mostly execution. The players didn't execute as they should. That's why Special Teams sucked. It's not like someone tried an onside kick or anything overly complicated.

My only complaint with Rosburg is he doesn't have great schemes when we return the ball. His receiving schemes aren't very complicated.
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his schemes being simple may be a smarter move than you think. The simpler something is, the easier it is to execute usually and like you just said, we couldnt even execute there.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1329420239' post='995632']
Cundiff's misses & the coverage wasn't his fault. Putting David back in the game was a sign of confidence. I would think less of Rosburg if he made an emotional decision like take him out of the game. He tried to keep David's confidence by sticking with & having faith in his player. Nothing wrong with that. When David came back he almost took that kick return to the house. If he didn't get injured I honestly think he would have.

As for the coverage, I mean how complicated is it? Special teams doesn't have crazy schemes like defense. There is a psychological aspect but outside of that it's mostly execution. The players didn't execute as they should. That's why Special Teams sucked. It's not like someone tried an onside kick or anything overly complicated.

My only complaint with Rosburg is he doesn't have great schemes when we return the ball[b]. His receiving schemes aren't very complicated.[/b]
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My point in we need a new ST coach. What does he bring to a struggling special teams unit?

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1329351116' post='995033']

The coverage teams have been [b]great[/b] til this year, I don't see how its Jerry's fault. Especially since STs is relatively simple. From a relative standpoint, there isn't that much to coordinate. Special teams is pretty simple, run, track the ball carrier, beat the block, break down, and kill him. There's not much a coach can do to simplify that.
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Billy missing kicks? Returners going the distance? Fumbles in the return game maybe execution but someone has to take the blame. Put the right people on the field is the coaches job. Practicing 50 yard field goals more in practice might solve some of the kicking issues. Special teams coordinators are safe by your standards. Now you have me wondering if our head coach is even that good. Thanks.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1329420239' post='995632']
Cundiff's misses & the coverage wasn't his fault. Putting David back in the game was a sign of confidence. I would think less of Rosburg if he made an emotional decision like take him out of the game. He tried to keep David's confidence by sticking with & having faith in his player. Nothing wrong with that. When David came back he almost took that kick return to the house. If he didn't get injured I honestly think he would have.

As for the coverage, I mean how complicated is it? Special teams doesn't have crazy schemes like defense. There is a psychological aspect but outside of that it's mostly execution. The players didn't execute as they should. That's why Special Teams sucked. It's not like someone tried an onside kick or anything overly complicated.

My only complaint with Rosburg is he doesn't have great schemes when we return the ball. His receiving schemes aren't very complicated.
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No i agree, trust him twice thats cool. He would not been out there for the third time for sure. To pick up that bone headed penalty. Cundiff regressing, is on the special teams coach though. Ill bet Matt Stover can correct Billy's problems with his mechanics.

[redrum52]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1329284096' post='994362']
Another coach from the Harbaugh coaching tree!

Isn't there a saying about working with friends or am I just thinking of "Don't poop where you eat"? Either way I'm fine with it as long as it doesnt cloud his judgement if the person has to be removed from the organization but by the way Cam is still here, I think Ozzie and Biscotti give John a lot of slack.
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I was thinking this too. John seems to have a decent amount of freedom and though I don't like Cam I like how Steve doesn't interfere, he just let's the guys do their job. I would have loved for him to step in and abort the Cam mission but too often we see head coaches hired and not given a chance to run their ship and ten people wonder why that coach wasn't successful. I feel for a team to really create a winning environment everyone must be allowed to do what they need to somewhat without being questioned or poked and prodded in a certain direction by people who have no idea what they're doing. On topic I guess its a good pick up. What's with the team just picking up its favorite players position coaches. I guess Harbs told the team since he gets to keep Cam they can bring a +1 as well.

[Hjulmann]

[quote name='jazz1988' timestamp='1329419205' post='995613']

First of all where do i ever say Flacco was a inconsistent quarterback for his entire career? My main focus was on 2010. Hey if you think im saying Flacco has never been a consistent quarterback then continue to think that. I will say again Flacco is good quarterback but he can be inconsistent at times that a big difference from saying Flacco is a good quarterback but he sure is inconsistent all the time.

[b]Matter of fact you cant be consider a good quarterback if your inconsistency is bigger than your consistency.[/b]
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By this logic Joe wouldn't be a good quarterback, which I strongly believe he is. He proved vs. NE that he can be an elite caliber QB.

[steeler hater]

[quote name='ThePurpleWall' timestamp='1329207648' post='993747']

What does Assistant Secondary Coach even mean ?.
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It means that he's the secondary Secondary Coach.